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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: TdF ’17, Stages 16-18: The Alpine Hike  Reply with quote

Stage 16 - Le Puy-en-Velay / Romans-sur-Isère

Into the valley.  What should be a leisurely jaunt across the foothills might be a bit more than that.  Surely the GC guns will be happy to let the break roll away, but Matthews’ stubbornness in the fight for points will probably mean a fast pace, and Griepel might fancy his chances.  It should be hot and dry, and if the wind picks up...



Stage 17 - La Mure - Serre-Chevalier

Did somebody mention trains?  Croix de Fer, Telegraphe, Galibier.



Stage 18 - Briançon / Izoard

Finally an MTF...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this quirky, odd little Tour draws nearer to its conclusion and we are still really none the wiser as to who is going to win.  Before it started we had a red hot favourite for overall and a shoo-in for the Green Jersey.  Froome is still a huge favourite for overall - the bookies have him at 4/11 against the field at 2/1 - without him ever looking as dominant as in previous wins.  It might even be argued that he doesn’t look the strongest rider in his team.    Sagan was nailed on for the points win, but was sent packing and his DQ proved the only worthwhile talking point of the first week, only for the points competition to be kept alive by Matthews’ refusal to go away.  

And maybe that’s the motif of this year, there are some that just won’t go away - and to its credit the route has facilitated that.  I don’t suppose anyone could have hoped going in to the Alps that less than half a minute would separate the top 4, and 2 minutes cover the top 7 places.  It has often been dull to pitch of being barely watchable, but seconds rather than minutes are the currency of this edition, and as a result there is a sense of anticipation going in to the last week that has been missing from many recent Tours.

Let the games begin...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of wind!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't been able to follow this year's Tour closely. What do people think about Uran's prospects of winning?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pantanifan wrote:
Haven't been able to follow this year's Tour closely. What do people think about Uran's prospects of winning?


I have read that he is the kind of rider to go for the win rather than worry about 3rd or 4th.
And he is possibly the fastest descender if he can get a gap on a not too twisty road.
However it seems a long time since he did a good ITT - Vuelta '14 ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil Gilbert DNS. Could be crucial for Dan and Kittel.
Much speculation about the strong wind.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with gilbert out through to gastroentritis and dan martin saying half of quick step had stomach problem, could this have been what was affecting kittel the last couple of days?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what happened george bennett? four minutes back with mclay and pichon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a finish I might like today!

However did Bouhanni get out of the group with Kittel nd catch the leading peloton?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what happened george bennett? four minutes back with mclay and pichon.


I watched the start and then went off for my nap.  Tomorrow, no nap.

Anyway, Bennet was off the bak t the start and at that point they suspected gastro, like Gilbert.  They said a combination of heat, cold water and a hard race.  Happens all the time, it was suggested.  Haven't herd anything more precise since I tuned in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fontfroide wrote:
Nolte wrote:
what happened george bennett? four minutes back with mclay and pichon.


I watched the start and then went off for my nap.  Tomorrow, no nap.

Anyway, Bennet was off the bak t the start and at that point they suspected gastro, like Gilbert.  They said a combination of heat, cold water and a hard race.  Happens all the time, it was suggested.  Haven't herd anything more precise since I tuned in.



Yes, he has thrown in the towel now. Makes sense with it.
Pity though he was doing well.

Tim wellens had abandoned Sunday after suffering with a skin problem that was being exacerbated by the heat (sounds like something I have)

Trek tried a dig 10-15km back, a bit too early.

Maybe something at 10-15km to go?
By maybe, I mean hopefully
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have meant to pick EBH again. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take that hopefully back, if you all don't mind Wink

Martin and meintjes lose 49 seconds

Sunweb give Matthews a 170km lead out for the victory
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in work but you've got to love Sunweb in this tour
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:
I'm in work but you've got to love Sunweb in this tour

They had a pretty good Giro as well, all things considered.
Shows their versatility.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm in work but you've got to love Sunweb in this tour


I totally agree.  And am beginning to like Matthews, who I knew was good, but never had any strong preferences or feelings for.  Now he drops easily into my long list of favourites.  Barguil I also liked, and was a little worried when he was out of the news for so long.  Guess he got better.  And adds one more guy to the fabulous range of potential French winners in any race of any type.  Things sure have changed since ten years ago.
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I'm in work but you've got to love Sunweb in this tour


I am a  bit worried Gerry.  How are you going to see the stages in the next two days?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another excellent stage.
Things have improved dramatically, once the race got out of pure, Kittel territory.

Poor Dan Martin just couldn't handle the crosswinds.
Bauer tried to chase, but he could't hold his wheel.
Contador was even worse.

With that win by Matthews, the green jersey competition is almost wide open again, after looking sewn up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Profound words from Kittel:

“I can’t say I am happy about losing all the points, but there was nothing to do. It is what it is. I gave of my best on the climb, but it wasn’t our day today and now we have to move on.”
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to feel for Dan Martin, he has been yo-yo'ing up and down the top 10 for 2 weeks.

Just let there be fireworks tomorrow.... Please!!!

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