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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:32 pm    Post subject: TdF ’17, Stages 10-13: 11th-14th July - To the Bastille  Reply with quote

Stage 10 - Périgueux - Bergerac

Sunflowers, heat haze, sprint...

So, Demare is gone, and Matthews’ sterling work for 20 points still leaves him 52 points shy of Kittel.  The next couple of days will tell us a lot more about how this first Sagan-less edition of the Points competition will go...




Stage 11 - Eymet / Pau

Ah, Pau.  Only Paris and Bordeaux have been visited more by Le Tour, and winners in Pau are who’s who of Le Tour.  It has always had a bit of magic for me going back to the glory days of Irish cycling.  Kelly and Earley both won here, and Kelly pulled on his only Maillot Jaune in Pau (incidentally on the same day that Roche got the White Jersey).  A likely sprint...



Stage 12 - Pau - Peyragudes

A long Pyrenean day that includes Col du Mente, Port de Balès and Peyresourde, finishing on the airport runway (Goldeneye) with 200m @ 16%.



Stage 13 - Saint-Girons - Foix

Bastille Day and a right tickler at only 100kms.  Three climbs - Col de Latrape, Col d'Agnes and finally the Mur de Péguère should test anyone that suffered on the previous day.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The race of a thousand chateau, today.
Tbh, I fell asleep through a large chunk of it, as did the riders.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 days into this segment and just a single post from me.
Sums it all up.
Well done Mr Prudhomme and co for this Tour de Purgatory.

Oh and another carbon copy finish and result.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuwB wrote:
2 days into this segment and just a single post from me.
Sums it all up.
Well done Mr Prudhomme and co for this Tour de Purgatory.

Oh and another carbon copy finish and result.


Yeah but a chapeau for Bodnar... nearly had them!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to commend the ASO for the route.. 3x power naps in 1 afternoon is a new record for me Very Happy

I'm glad we get to see footage from the start to finish. Watching these breaks form is far more interesting than the procession that follows it. But yeah, if the bunch are content to sit up after the first few riders sprint away once the flag is dropped, we are in for lonnnng afternoons of Kirby trying to fill in 4hrs of nothing.

Still, tomorrow promises to be far more interesting!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's grim stuff alright.  A poor route is in the power grip of the two best teams in the world - QS on the flat and Sky in GC.  Kittel's new approach to the sprints, coming from the second rank, is vaguely interesting but after 200 long kilometres it barely raises an eyelid.  Greipel is under par, and with Cav and Sagan gone the points competition is no competition - just a procession.

Sadly, with Porte out it is difficult to see any serious competition to Froome, especially now that Fuglsang is carrying injuries now as well.  Still, we live in hope but it really might be as good as over after tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always try to be positive, BUT, I just tuned in for the last 20k today, and I genuinely fell asleep 3 times.....  or maybe it's just my age...   Embarassed  Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:
Greipel is under par, and with Cav and Sagan gone the points competition is no competition - just a procession.


Just to stimulate some discussion, I will take issue with this - in no way Cav was a threat to green jersey competition in my view!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ullrichfan wrote:
gerry12ie wrote:
Greipel is under par, and with Cav and Sagan gone the points competition is no competition - just a procession.


Just to stimulate some discussion, I will take issue with this - in no way Cav was a threat to green jersey competition in my view!


It is difficult to envisage Cav being the third player to the other two in the green jersey competition, given his battle against time to get fit.
However, if ever there was a course upon which he could have taken the competition, this is it.

Looks like there is a slim possibility of wet descents again.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, fair point, Huw.  I was thinking more of the fitness and his general demeanor before the race.  I think he hoped he might pinch a stage or two which would have made everything worthwhile.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ullrichfan wrote:
gerry12ie wrote:
Greipel is under par, and with Cav and Sagan gone the points competition is no competition - just a procession.


Just to stimulate some discussion, I will take issue with this - in no way Cav was a threat to green jersey competition in my view!


I agree, but with him there (and his train has been superb for EBH) I doubt Kittel would have had the luxury of coasting in at will.  Let's be honest - if Sagan is there then the Points classement is a done deal...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wet at the roll out, glorious sunshine up at James Bond airport.
Eurosport have grabbed a spot about 20 metres from the finish line for their pre stage chat.
Hope nobody tries to land! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprisingly, Gautier, Erviti, De Kort, Küng, Ulissi, Cummings, Kittel, Bauer, Politt, De Gendt, Matthews, Simon have got away for the rather ordinary BOTD.

They have just over 2 minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bring this up again, and maybe I am oversimplifying things, but it was interesting to see Matthews not take the Cav line into the barriers on yesterday's sprint, instead choosing to come in behind EBH.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like today is the Ullissi / Cummings day.
None of the expected KoM protagonists seem to have made it into the break.
Let's see what happens on the Col de Mente.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mazda wrote:
Looks like today is the Ullissi / Cummings / de Gendt day.
None of the expected KoM protagonists seem to have made it into the break.
Let's see what happens on the Col de Mente.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:
mazda wrote:
Looks like today is the Ullissi / Cummings / de Gendt day.
None of the expected KoM protagonists seem to have made it into the break.
Let's see what happens on the Col de Mente.


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Before anyone else sees fit to take issue with the second sentence I may as well add that TdG is also a KoM protagonist. Smile
Matthews doing his best to protect Barguil's lead.
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Nice recovery... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sky not messing about today.
Serious hurt being applied.
Poor Chaves. Might as well go home.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of Cummings,the British Champ, winning another stage.  It looks like the last few k could be interesting.  But I suppose there are others who are a bit tired of seeing those white jerseys always at the front and no one attacking them very seriously.  Guess they must be the best team without a doubt.


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