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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:08 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Sky repeat the same trick with a Henao attack ?

Then Froome waits to see who has the strength to respond.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Froome and Quintana.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porte trying to put time into van garderen
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aru the main loser at the moment.
All the rest have come back and Mollema attacks.
Quintana has not budged one inch from Froome's wheel.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the wetter?
The weather or Nairo Quintana.
Rapidly becoming Colombia's Cadel Evans.

Arcalis confirms it's status as the GTs least selective finish.

Another awful stage to go into the rest day.

Aru's failure is down to the person who fp'd him.
I pick 'em, they instantly turn into dogs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit unfair on Quintana... it wasn't steep enough for one of his float away at tempo cos he's the lightest style attacks...

He'll be saving himself for Ventoux where it will be mins taken instead of seconds. I'm sure he'll be quite happy to see Froome respond to attacks from Mollema and Martin, and reduce some of his reserves.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what to make of this weekend.  Was the Froome descent opportunist brilliance ora lack of confidence in his ability to out climb the top men? Personally I don't expect Froome to weak in the third week as he has in the past, so it is still all to play for.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missed the race today, and caught up with the "highlights"......  my high spot of the day though was reading the Observer's report of yesterday's events (on the iPad edition) - at the bottom of the piece was a lovely little graphic for today's stage, with the legend "HC - hill climb" - I nearly choked on my cornflakes!   Rolling Eyes  Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bartali wrote:
Not sure what to make of this weekend.  Was the Froome descent opportunist brilliance ora lack of confidence in his ability to out climb the top men?

Initially I thought he was getting a gap to compensate for his own descending skills. That was soon proven very wrong.
Does anyone else hold to the view that Froome sprinting for the KoM points on the previous climb was a setup for him to attack over the top of the final climb, and that having Majka in the mix was a fortuitous red herring ?

Despite seeing Mollema and Martin having a go I am slightly subdued for the remainder of the race. We are in the position of having too many GC men at a similar level, partly due to an increase in training levels and also the lack of a cull of significant numbers of riders by this stage of the race (Bertie and his 'fever' aside).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone else hold to the view that Froome sprinting for the KoM points on the previous climb was a setup for him to attack over the top of the final climb, and that having Majka in the mix was a fortuitous red herring ?

I had [predictably] put it down to a lack of class on Froome's part, but on reflection it may well have been a really clever ploy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bartali wrote:
mazda wrote:
Does anyone else hold to the view that Froome sprinting for the KoM points on the previous climb was a setup for him to attack over the top of the final climb, and that having Majka in the mix was a fortuitous red herring ?

I had [predictably] put it down to a lack of class on Froome's part, but on reflection it may well have been a really clever ploy.


Dave Millar (I think) suggested that Froome sprinting throughout the stage for points was to create the illusion that his sprint on the final climb was again just for points rather than an attempt to get a decisive gap.

Or maybe Froome had a flashback to 2012 and thought "F*ck you, Wiggins. I'm off!" and didn't realise it was 2016 until he reached the finish.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can't have known in advance that Quintana (or whichever rider would have been behind him) would have picked up a bottle and have both hands off the handlebars at the crucial moment.

I'm not sure whether planning it in advance, and getting fortune blowing his direction, or reacting on the fly to Quintana reaching for a bottle, is the more impressive. Probably neither and it all was indeed "just a bit of fun".
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mazda wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Not sure what to make of this weekend.  Was the Froome descent opportunist brilliance ora lack of confidence in his ability to out climb the top men?

Initially I thought he was getting a gap to compensate for his own descending skills. That was soon proven very wrong.
Does anyone else hold to the view that Froome sprinting for the KoM points on the previous climb was a setup for him to attack over the top of the final climb, and that having Majka in the mix was a fortuitous red herring ?

Despite seeing Mollema and Martin having a go I am slightly subdued for the remainder of the race. We are in the position of having too many GC men at a similar level, partly due to an increase in training levels and also the lack of a cull of significant numbers of riders by this stage of the race (Bertie and his 'fever' aside).



regarding Mollema, it was great to see Bauke react to the accelerations and have 2 of his own too. It's a shame he put himself into the red and got dropped because of it, but it sure beats the usual style of survive in the wheels then grind to the top.

Martin was super-aggressive. Almost doing Froome's job for him! Dan martin is not going to win the TDF - but he's going to have a go at getting on the podium. Hope it succeeds, but it means Froome or whoever else is riding ahead of the group of favourites will be able to call on an ally if he is there - most important for him (and Porte) is putting time into the rest, not necessarily Froome.


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