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Speaking of doping, and as its the silly season..........
Whats flandis up to these days
ditto...rasmussen
ditto...that bloke from Spain who got a shitty deal......whose name escapes me...help please Kathy
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| TNG wrote: | Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this (i.e. it isn't cycling-related doping news), but I was a little surprised that there doesn't appear to have been any comment made here about this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091103/sp_nm/us_golf_pga_wada_1
But maybe it's old news and I need to catch up!  |
No. Right place.
Another sport with "athletes" earning potential so great, it encourages the widespread use of PEDs, while discouraging the governing body to try and tackle the problem.
Hands up all those who had heard of this player?
Hell will freeze over, before a top ranking player is taken down.
Tennis has exactly the same issues, as Andrei Agassi's revelations have shown. |
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HuwB
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| last km wrote: | Speaking of doping, and as its the silly season..........
Whats flandis up to these days
ditto...rasmussen
ditto...that bloke from Spain who got a shitty deal......whose name escapes me...help please Kathy |
Flandis has been bumming around NZ, doing the odd bit of riding.
He has signed for Rock Racing, to replace their old resident USPS
doping legend.
Rasmussen, the rumours abound. Lots of talk about signing for a new team, which must be true, when you consider this:-
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/r...ntract-insists-team-cdc-cavaliere
IBAN MAYO? |
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Rasmussen, the rumours abound. Lots of talk about signing for a new team, which must be true, when you consider this:-
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/r...ntract-insists-team-cdc-cavaliere
mabe his illusive twin 
yep Mayo .......his career well and truly fucked because of those wankers in CH.
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Sorry, I was out - yes, Iban Mayo got a rotten deal. I think Armstrong/McQuaid had it in for him. His two years are up now, and I did hear a rumour about him talking to another team, but it's gone quiet. He went off the rails a bit after the dope case - another fragile character - but a great gifted climber.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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....and another muppet
| Quote: | Spaniard targeted by UCI, tests positive for EPO
Spaniard Alberto Fernandez De La Puebla Ramos has been suspended by the International Cycling Union (UCI) after testing positive for the blood booster EPO. The Fuji-Servetto rider's positive came from an out-of-competition control taken on October 15, 2009.
The rider had been targeted based upon data from his biological passport values, the UCI said. He was provisionally suspended pending a hearing by the Spanish cycling federation.
Fernandez De La Puebla Ramos is the latest in a series of riders to be sanctioned as a result of the UCI's passport programme. His teammate Riccardo Serrano was one of five riders who were the first to be suspended for irregular blood values along with another former Saunier Duval rider, Ruben Lobato Elvira.
Serrano also tested positive for EPO CERA in two separate samples taken as part of the passport programme this year - one in May and another in June.
The biological passport programme began in 2008, with the UCI regularly collecting blood samples in order to detect fluctuations in a rider's values that might indicate doping. While few riders have been suspended for irregular values alone, the system has been effective in allowing the UCI to target riders for out-of-competition testing.
Danilo Di Luca became the highest profile rider to fall as part of the scheme. He tested positive for CERA during this year's Giro d'Italia. |
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a golfer !!!!!! got busted....sad !!!!! ciao
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| Slapshot 3 wrote: | | ....and another muppet |
another dodgy footon should ease next years' gt team selection somewhat, if the governing body can remember their rules. there was a three strike rule at some point? nah, nevermind... |
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HuwB
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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So, now it's official. It's all gone away.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/k...cutors-agree-to-end-investigation
I find the German attitude incredibly hard to fathom.
On the face of it, they are the most anti-doping hard liners on the planet.
German tv cancels their national tour. All their media coverage pulled from the Tour, due to ongoing doping revelations surrounding the race.
Endless moral preaching in their press.
Yet, when it comes to dishing out justice to an implicated rider, it's a quick back hander to effectively turn a blind eye. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Huw- this stinks to high heaven. I'm a simple person so can someone please explain the rationale behind Klodengate?
Either its case proven followed by a two year ban or case not proven in which case he is free to ride. Where does the 25,000 euro charitable donation come in? Is this a third option I didn't know about? Could Basso have evoked this during OP? Perhaps Don Alejandro should donate a few thousand Euro to make his problems go away???? |
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Mrs John Murphy
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No, you are conflating authorities.
The German state authorities were investigating Kloden. He agreed to pay a fine for breaking the law.
Basso was subject to a sporting investigation by CONI and hence banned.
There is nothing to stop the German cycling fed (now it is no longer a matter of subjudice) from opening a case against Kloden.
Kloden is IMO not in the clear. |
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Mayo was royally shafter by Armstrong who wrote a letter to the UCI grassing him up as a doper - he was clearly developing into too much of a threat.
Cunego's team manager states that the 'Damiano who won the Giro no longer exists' - even more of a reason to prefer the new one
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Mrs John Murphy wrote: | No, you are conflating authorities.
The German state authorities were investigating Kloden. He agreed to pay a fine for breaking the law.
Basso was subject to a sporting investigation by CONI and hence banned.
There is nothing to stop the German cycling fed (now it is no longer a matter of subjudice) from opening a case against Kloden.
Kloden is IMO not in the clear. |
Except Kloeden isn't daft and is riding on a Swiss licence.
It sucks. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| But what law has Kloden broke ... and don't fines for breaking laws normally go to the government (or whoever) not a charity?? |
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Mrs John Murphy
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| Bartali wrote: | | But what law has Kloden broke ... and don't fines for breaking laws normally go to the government (or whoever) not a charity?? |
I am not an expert on German law so I can't give you chapter and verse. But the point is this - Basso was subject not to a criminal investigation, while Kloden was.
If Basso had been subject to a criminal investigation I suspect he'd still be stuck in the courts and not riding. So be careful what you wish for.
Now whether the German or Swiss authorities want to open a case against Kloden is another matter. The matter having been closed is no longer an issue of subjudice. |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8353208.stm
Those tennis players couldn't have been at it, could they...? Mr Nadal doesn't think so any way.... maybe his friend Dr Fuentes told him to say that...? 
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I enjoy watching Rafa play, he's very entertaining. Still though, he makes a lot of comments on how doping doesn't happen.
If anybody is doping in Tennis and I'm sure som are, then he'd be one of the prime suspects.
About Klean Klodi - I doubt the germans or swiss want to go anywhere with his case. I mean, there have already been too many Dopestrong domestique's busted for LA to have much cred left.. |
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nah, dr fuentes has said there were tennis players that were clients of his
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