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Vuelta 2016: Stages 11-14, To the Border, Aug 31st-Sept 3rd
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:00 pm    Post subject: Vuelta 2016: Stages 11-14, To the Border, Aug 31st-Sept 3rd  Reply with quote

Stage 11;-





Stage 12:-



Mountain passes & hills Los Corrales de Buelna / Bilbao 193.2KM

   Km 49.0 - Pto. de las Alisas PM10 kilometre-long climb at 6% - category 1

   Km 89.4 - Alto La Escrita6.4 kilometre-long climb at 4.5% - category 3

   Km 151.0 - Alto El Vivero4.2 kilometre-long climb at 8.5% - category 2

   Km 180.3 - Alto El Vivero4.2 kilometre-long climb at 8.5% - category 2




Stage 13:-



Mountain passes & hills Bilbao / Urdax-Dantxarinea 213.4KM

   Km 99.0 - Alto Monte Igueldo.5.3 kilometre-long climb at 6.2% - category 3

   Km 130.5 - Alto de Aritxulegi6.2 kilometre-long climb at 6.5% - category 3

   Km 139.0 - Alto Aguiņa5 kilometre-long climb at 6.2% - category 3

   Km 163.2 - Pto. Lizaieta7.2 kilometre-long climb at 4.7% - category 3



Stage 14:-



Mountain passes & hills Urdax-Dantxarinea / Aubisque - Gourette 196.1KM

   Km 62.9 - Col Inharpu.11.5 kilometre-long climb at 7.1% - category 1

   Km 111.8 - Col du Soudet.24 kilometre-long climb at 5.2% - category 1

   Km 157.7 - Col de Marie-Blanque.9.2 kilometre-long climb at 7.5% - category 1

   Km 196.1 - Meta Aubisque - Gourette.16.5 kilometre-long climb at 7.1% - category H




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I just came to do those. It's been parent teacher evening and the Mrs. is at work so I was flying solo with my dodgy german and after 2 hours of powerpoint presentations (even 1st year primary has 6 teachers) my cooked brain welcomes the respite Smile

Anyway I digress . . . The internet is pointing out that Froome has won on tomorrow's climb, so there is hope of a fightback, but IMO based on everything we've seen, Quintana has plenty more in the tank and it's wishful thinking.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll respond to the power meter discussions here as its probably going to be a topic for today anyway if Froome goes with his recent approach for Vuelta climbs.

In general I'm not a believer in banning new technologies. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but since my job is about that type of stuff I maybe carry a bias.

On the specifics, Movistar are having a go at Froome which seems a bit poor since they are sitting in 1st and 2nd. Mind games or stress? Froome gave far more of a spectacle than they did in July when he was ambushing them for seconds in the opening couple of weeks (and nothing to do with power meters) only for them to not turn up in the final week. Complaints of a boring riding style from two riders I would normally put towards  the wheel sucking / conservative end of the spectrum are kind of drifting into a pot / kettle / blackness scenario.

It must be annoying for them though not knowing if they've really put a minute into Froome or he's coming back at them on the latter stages of the climb.

On the subject of Valverde blowing with 6km to go, but only giving up few seconds, he seemed to then have better legs once he wasn't on the front working for Quintana Wink In that sense making the story of the day at their press conference about Froome's power meter rather than a team leadership one is maybe not such a bad way to go.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was Valverde's blowing an intentional strategy? Quintana vs. Bertie 1-on-1... as soon as Froome came past him he was able to latch on and follow to the line.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biosphere wrote:
On the specifics, Movistar are having a go at Froome which seems a bit poor since they are sitting in 1st and 2nd. Mind games or stress? Froome gave far more of a spectacle than they did in July when he was ambushing them for seconds in the opening couple of weeks (and nothing to do with power meters) only for them to not turn up in the final week. Complaints of a boring riding style from two riders I would normally put towards  the wheel sucking / conservative end of the spectrum are kind of drifting into a pot / kettle / blackness scenario.


I agree with all of this, but I think it is probably the exception that proves the rule.  No complaints with Froome's aggressiveness in the Tour or his tactics here, but bye-and-large I think technology is slowly ruining the sport and I'm confident that anyone with an open mind would feel the same after spending an hour or two looking at 1970s/1980s cycling on YouTube. In fact, I can't think of any +ve contribution the IT revolution has made to the sport. [But will doubtless backtrack on this in about 5 posts time Smile ]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One +ve contribution - I can watch the cycling on TV / 'puter.

Today, no break after one hour of racing.
I doubt it is all Movistar, but I'm sure they will be eyeing up some bonus seconds.
If Quintana can't drop Froome then you slow down and let Valverde nab the bonus instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Large group gone clear.

Hermans, Bakelants, Rolland having another go.

Hermans is at 6'55" so I suspect that will cap the gap, although Movistar have proved happy to let the Red jersey go before.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tinkoff helping, more than helping with the pace setting.

Gap slowly coming down somewhere above 4'
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are 5km from the final climb.

Break of 23 is still intact.
Tinkoff still leading the pursuit less than a minute behind.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to see here.

Hermans on his own barely ahead of a reduced, Movistar led peloton shelling riders out the back.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaves makes a move with 2km to go.

After a while Valverde defaults to defence mode and leads the others after him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q v F.
Will Movistar mess up the bonus seconds ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Froome wins ahead of Quintana.
I guess that somehow this climb suits Froome - the brevity ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, what a great 500 metres of action that was. Rolling Eyes
So, Froome basically outsprints Quintana on "his" mountain.
Very little movement in the GC after Valverde nicks the final bonus.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valverde wins the sprint for third  Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konig @6
Contador @6
Yates @13
Scarponi @14
Chaves @19
LaTour @22
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Froome won't mind how this went at all.

I guess we are waiting for the biggie on Saturday.
Contador is just bound to try something.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a SKY mountain stage.. no real profile, then 1 MTF to race full gas. Easy to predict a Froome victory.

Thu/Fri/Sat much more harder to predict.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of interest.

Near the top of the Cat 1 a group of 7 has edged clear.
Contains several top 25 riders, all the way up to Kennaugh in 15th.
Lopez of Sky is also there and took the KoM points.

Looks like another typical Sky stage
Wink

Seems like an expensive way to make Movistar do some work.

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