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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:40 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Reichenbach is even harder to watch.

Alaphillippe crashes (unseen).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuwB wrote:
Kelly tells Kirby to shut up. Hurrah!

To be fair it was that Carlton was getting rather anxious about the descending.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff this and almost nothing to do with the GC lot.

Alaphilippe being very.......................................French


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mazda wrote:
Reichenbach is even harder to watch.


Painful.  I think Zakarin gave him a pat on the back as relief that both of them had made it to the bottom.  Pantano looks strong
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm liking the KOM battle this year.  It's going backwards and forwards and should go right to the wire
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found a way to watch after all. It's like a world championships with the bell and laps Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nibali proving to be about as much assistance to Aru as an ashtray on a motorbike...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good racing up front, stunning scenery and a FP to boot.  However, in GC terms a very damp squib with no effect at all on standings, bar Reichenbach jumping a couple of places.

Poor Nolte FP'd Reichenbach, then switched to Pantano who we both picked around the same time, and even though he was in first he jumped off to avoid doubling up Embarassed I'd be happy to hand over half the points, especially as he posted first...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 10km flat at the end meant that the sheep behind the much hated Sky train were never going to try much.
Chapeau to Bardet for at least giving it a go and jumping over TJVG in the process.
Porte also benefits.

A very good race to be watched aside the GC lot.
Which, to be fair to French tv, got the lion's share of the coverage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well even tho the GC was fairly untouched.  Control of Sky.  But fun to watch.  Totally cool lacets, really pretty.  I felt like I was watching the young guys foreshadowing what might happen when the older guys go away and maybe Sky has a bad year.  To and fro, descending well and not so well.

Nice stage.  but if no one attacks, then it is over already.  I suppose if Mollema attacks, then Yates, then Bardet then maybe something will crack.  No other real choice, and most of them are not going to really risk much.  Maybe not.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank goodness for the wonderful scenery, hopefully the rest of the GC group could enjoy it too, if they would pop their head up out of Froome's backside for a second or two.

I understand Mollema not attacking - he will defend his podium spot now. Maybe if Quintana or Yates would start dropping he would do something?

But the rest? Aru & Bardet managed to clip off the front, but only for 3-40m... it's a ridiculous joke... Poels pops open a can of Coca-Cola half way up final climb, and finds an extra 5mins of pulling power, Popeye style.

Quintana. Forclaz. He has to go. He can't afford to just sit there and collect another 2nd place by attacking Mollema on Morzine (i think Yates was in trouble today - and they missed the chance but he might fade in 3rd week now).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a GC point of view - with the honourable exception of Froome's decent into Luchon - this is probably the poorest tour I have ever seen.  Yawn fest.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always been the trouble with the Tour,
Here, unlike anywhere else, 5th place means something.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the feeling Movistar and Quintana were plotting a snatch & grab on Ventoux - it's long enough and hard enough for his slight weight to make a difference and distance most if not all GC guys.

With that stage neutered by weather and fans, just wondering if they have a Plan B? Wednesday's stage could get interesting if someone has the guts to attack on Forclaz.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuwB wrote:
It's always been the trouble with the Tour,
Here, unlike anywhere else, 5th place means something.

Not to me it doesn't!!  Rolling Eyes
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“I can’t say what the other teams are doing… We had Valverde try with Aru for a moment, but Poels immediately controls it, gives it a little bit more gas, and controls everything. After with Bardet, he did the same thing. It’s Poels, or then it’s Landa, or then another. Above all, Poels is incredible.

a telling comment from a guy who knows a thing or two about race horses.. Eusebio Unzue

and...

"I don't know if Bauke will attack, maybe in the end of a stage. We don't think we should make the same mistake like Andorra, attack too early then lose seconds. I know we should always go for the win, but I think we are quite happy where we are at the moment."

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't write the contracts, Bart. Wink

Poels: a little reminder of the last time the LBL winner climbed the Lacets du Grand Colombier:-

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Tour_de_lAin_2010_Stage_5_Belley
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More's the pity! Smile

Poels, Thomas, Nieve, Landa ... an embarrassment of riches .....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:


Poor Nolte FP'd Reichenbach, then switched to Pantano who we both picked around the same time, and even though he was in first he jumped off to avoid doubling up Embarassed I'd be happy to hand over half the points, especially as he posted first...


I've just seen it (my hotel room has German Eurosport. ).  I am actually laughing about it especially as when I decided to change it, I was thinking of vuillermoz or geschke but felt vuillermoz would stay with bardet today and not attack.

Those the breaks. :d

Oh German Eurosport use the tdf extra with Ashley and Juan Antonio too
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bartali wrote:
More's the pity! Smile

Poels, Thomas, Nieve, Landa ... an embarrassment of riches .....


That's the thing - for Le Tour Sky almost always have the strongest team.  They don't spread themselves too thin with a huge focus on the Giro or Vuelta.  You actually get the impression that their chances in the other GT's are incidental, the big, big focus is on Le Tour.  The other big teams don't seem quite as single-minded in their approach in July, but I'm baffled as to why they don't mix it up a bit.  For instance, what was Astana's and Movistar's game yesterday?  Astana put in a shift that appeared to make Sky look a bit uncomfortable, but by the time Aru finally went, Sky had not only regained composure, but Valverde jumped across to Aru to effectively kill the move off.

I don't blame Sky for their approach at all.  They have come with a game plan that is very effective, and Froome has actually ridden with a bit of (albeit ugly) panache.  Sky are every bit as good as the opposition are allowing them to be.  If you want an attacking GT with surprises then look the Vuelta, or dig out some old Contador footage.  I hope I'm wrong but so far I'm pleased I didn't take any time off this week...


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