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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:22 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Impressive attack from Froome on the downhill, although I wouldn't want to be within 300 metres behind him Wink Sky plenty good enough to defend this for the remainder if they so wish, and Froome plenty good enough to increase it.

Thankfully I slept until they crested the last climb, matching the snoozefest snooze for snooze
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:
Impressive attack from Froome on the downhill, although I wouldn't want to be within 300 metres behind him Wink Sky plenty good enough to defend this for the remainder if they so wish, and Froome plenty good enough to increase it.

Thankfully I slept until they crested the last climb, matching the snoozefest snooze for snooze


You did miss some fine countryside though.  Otherwise, it did come off a bit like … Sky in the Tour.  Could not quite figure out why NO ONE tried to follow Froome.  Still, much will be written about this.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Five out eight for the Brits!  Those French are not happy.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that it was only on stage eight that a rider left the race.  Fantastic!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fontfroide wrote:
gerry12ie wrote:
Impressive attack from Froome on the downhill, although I wouldn't want to be within 300 metres behind him Wink Sky plenty good enough to defend this for the remainder if they so wish, and Froome plenty good enough to increase it.

Thankfully I slept until they crested the last climb, matching the snoozefest snooze for snooze


You did miss some fine countryside though.  Otherwise, it did come off a bit like … Sky in the Tour.  Could not quite figure out why NO ONE tried to follow Froome.  Still, much will be written about this.


Quintana was on froome's wheel when he attacked but quintana had gone for a bottle which was the cause of the gap. When quintana realised, he discards the bottle  (nearly causing a crash as the bottle went back onto road) but froome had the gap
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But not only Quintana could not would not react but the rest of them, every single one.  Frozen.  To have a gap of a few metres, which is all he had when to bottle bounced, on a descent, is not a really big deal.  They just sat watching.  I think they were as surprised and shocked as we were.  Surely in the group of 15 or so there was ONE who could descend fast.  Apparently NOT.  Hard to believe.
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One more comment before I get on with other things.  For the first time in years, Jalabert, in his comments on Froome and Sky did NOT make a single smart ass, understated criticism of the team or the rider.  I think that descent might have convinced him finally to keep his nasty gob shut, keep his negativity for more deserving riders or teams.

Bravo, Laurent.  

PS. I am not a Froome fan, but Laurent has been winding me up for years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say Quintana wasn't too panicking there - 15km, Valverde in the group to pace them back up to Froome... only 2-300m to recover..

...then Spiderman replaced Froome and some crazy pedalling on the top tube later, and the gap is 30s.. every time the camera cut to Froome he looked a few CM away from a race ending wobble.

Problem with the group was no lieutenants - only Valverde (and one of the BMC, if they could decide which one is leader)... meant that it was 1v1 on the descent, and the pre-race previews saying the descent would favour a larger group over a solo rider were negated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of going after Froome, Quintana sat up and looked around for Valverde.
Mistake.

Not that he could follow Valverde, mind.

For all the shit Sky and Froome take about being boring, they attacked first with Henao and Froome's panache saved the stage from being a total turd.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugely disappointed ... i don't like Froome one bit and I would have liked to see Yates in yellow.  But ... kudos where it is due. Clearly a planned move. I didn't think that was possible, and especially by Froome.  Chapeau.

I still think Quintana will win though Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening to Velo Club just now.
Rolland says he didn't actually fall.
So, he clipped the stone wall, but stayed on his bike.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's all this, Froome chasing mountain points.
We will see tomorrow with a lot of points up for grabs. ??
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr shifter wrote:
What's all this, Froome chasing mountain points.
We will see tomorrow with a lot of points up for grabs. ??


I think its about making way down the descent in control, at least on the penultimate climb where he and poels nudge out.

If mountain points was the big issue, poels wouldn't have been first on that one
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got to watch it. Exciting finish, but I was watching Froome between my fingers. Did not look like a safe position - I know I carry a lot of extra kg, but I would never let my center of gravity get that close to the front wheel Shocked

23s doesn't seem like much, given the energy expended, but probably of psychological benefit too. Kill them on the MTF tomorrow and they're left scratching their heads where they can beat him?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got to watch it. Exciting finish, but I was watching Froome between my fingers. Did not look like a safe position - I know I carry a lot of extra kg, but I would never let my center of gravity get that close to the front wheel Shocked

23s doesn't seem like much, given the energy expended, but probably of psychological benefit too. Kill them on the MTF tomorrow and they're left scratching their heads where they can beat him?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are underway.
Half the peloton have gone up the road.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never seen Froome with such a grin for so long afterwards.
Some random thoughts -
It sems unlikely that Froome would have been the fastest down in a pure 1v1 descent, albeit a very non-technical one.
The stage was ridden pretty hard so despite the fact there was a large GC group, perhaps everyone else was just tired out.
But mostly I think it psychological, nobody thought he would stay away, that Valverde would lead them back to him, and by the time they realised it was too late to do anything.

I wonder how bad Rollands high speed graze was (shorts and leg didn't look good). He would have been a favourite for today, judging by his embarrassed response in an interview with Flecha about his plan for Arcalis.

Contador has already consented to Kreuziger racing his own race. So we'll see Majka going for more points as well.

Dan Martin looks to have a podium in him this year. Maybe more dare I say if he retains form for the 3 weeks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contador and Valerde take off, but they have Henao in tow.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valverde still in the lead group with 3 other Movistar riders.

edit - 2 others Ancona and Herrada

Sky have their full fleet in attendance so I expect the breakway will get reeled in over the bumpy 20 km to the next climb.



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