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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Worst Cases of Bonking...  Reply with quote

What are your worst cases of bonking or biting off more than you can chew when it comes to attacking a climb?

Mine was yesterday here in Salt Lake. After some recent improvements in my climbing, I decided (Foolishly) to have a go at the steepest, yet relatively short climb in our city. You should know that after a couple of lazy years in Miami, I arrived in Salt Lake, 2 months ago in the worst shape of my life...6-1 and over 250 lbs...Always carried extra lbs, but never like this...So, I'm probably one of the least likely climbers you'll ever see on a bike taking on steep hills.

The climb is about 5 miles from where I started and was only 800m in duration, but averages about 15% gradient with a max around 20% near the top over the last 100m.  Making matters more difficult, it was still 98 degrees(40c) when I set off on my trip and the pollen count was extremely high, causing me to have a runny and stuffed up nose throughout.

I took it pretty easy getting to the base of the climb, so I wasn't too short of breath or hurting in anyway other than my allergies...400m into this climb, I realized I wasn't ready for this severe of a gradient....I had to veer off into a parking lot and circle around for 2 minutes on flat ground while I caught my breath...I nearly turned around and went back down, calling it a day, but my competitive juices were flowing and soon after, I started climbing again...it wasn't long before I was dying again, but this time I decided to get out of the saddle (relieving thigh burning) and making some nice progress. I don't have pedal clips and when my right foot nearly fell off the pedal during this violent struggle, I sat back down and finished the last 50m swaying quite violently from side to side with each turn of the pedal.

Finally, I reached the top and turned right onto a slight descent....As I coasted down the road, I felt a crazy mix of happiness, pain and fear...I felt happy for having conquered the beast of Salt Lake, but pain in my lungs and thighs were tempering my celebratory mood...As I continued on my ride, now on flat surfaces, I suddenly felt like I was losing my energy and started to think about eating. It was 8pm and I hadn't eaten since noon so I decided to curtail my route and return home to eat. The return home wasn't very difficult, but I felt dizzy along the way and had very little energy left...then nearly puked 3 or 4 times once in my house...I was seriously praying to the porcelain gods for about 5 minutes until suddenly, the dizziness started to go away.

Did I experience a bonk episode? What are your worst cases of bonking and do they usually come with climbing steep mountains?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt say that is a classic case of bonking.. i'd say that is an out of condition guy going too hard into the red to the point where your body was screaming at you to stop before you pass out Smile

happens to me a few times when racing an 11% 0.6km hill prime in Bratislava... by the top i'm dizzy, light headed and arms feeling like they're made of lead from the pull on the handlebars.

i'm no scientist, but its related to high (near to or over max.) heart rate efforts.

bonking is when you've spent 5 hrs in the saddle foolishly without drinking/eating and you can no longer even push the pedals anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sm.. bf is pretty much bang on..
wasn't a really smart thing to do..
being it was 98 degrees and you
caring that extra weight and all..

I bonked badly once during the last 10
km of my first lone 160+km 6 hour ride..
I couldn't pedal another stroke.. got a ride
by a passer-by who was also a cyclist and
saw me sitting on the side obviously bonked..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Its hard to accurately depict the steepness of hills with still photos...this might help...Took these from my car the other day.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



side view near top.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



You can see how the last 100m ramps up even steeper...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst bonk?  1995 Boston Marathon.  Nobody should run for 4 hours.  Was at a 7:00/mi pace for 20 miles, then my body seized up.  Finished at a 15:00+/mi pace for the last 6 mi.  In the 1980 race I ran a 2:52.  Unofficially.  It was nice being 19 years old.  I'm in better shape now, though.  Just not for running!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Conquered the beast that once nearly killed me...it's amazing how outta breath you can get in such a short distance of actual climbing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapeau!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Scott!  Chapeau!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So about 4 photos up there's what appears to be a very big cycle path? How does that work cos it looks like there's one coming down the hill too leaving very little space for cars. Is it more of a reminder to cars to share the road with bikes?

Excellent on the climbing - keep chipping away at it Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last photo you see was taken from my car during a lunch break the other day...its the best photo I've taken that depicts how severe the slope is...According to a hippie who works at my bike shop, its 22% over the last 200m....before that a mere 14% over 200m and then 400m at 6% - The legs only burned near the top but the breathing got difficult over the final 100m...Upon reaching the top I turn right and coast down a slight downhill and caught my breath, which took me about 3 minutes.  

Are there any recorded cases of cyclists dying from asphyxiation or simply being outta breath?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biosphere wrote:
So about 4 photos up there's what appears to be a very big cycle path? How does that work cos it looks like there's one coming down the hill too leaving very little space for cars. Is it more of a reminder to cars to share the road with bikes?

Excellent on the climbing - keep chipping away at it Smile



In the last 50 meters or so, the bike path goes away so the cars can turn right on red....Something that we Americans enjoy having the option of doing in our cars. I never understood why Europeans picked up on McDonalds and KFC, but won't allow right turns on red....lol

Anyway, the sign on the road is in fact to remind the drivers to share the road and be aware of fat guys like me chugging up on their right.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smarauder68 wrote:
Are there any recorded cases of cyclists dying from asphyxiation or simply being outta breath?


I'd be surprised by a purely being out of breath scenario. I'd have thought you would just grind to a halt or pass out, rather than the body taking on an oxygen debt it can't repay.

Complications from things like dehydration and heart attacks are a lot easier to imagine.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's comforting...I felt like I may simply asphyxiate there for a few seconds but within 2 or 3 minutes I was catching my breath...Woulda been interesting to catch my heart rate at the top....Was probably over 180.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Scott!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some guy just beat my strava KOM record on the following 0.5km brute:

http://www.hobart10000.com/segmen...amp;FitGradient=true&Angle=10

this means war... going to thrash out a new top time tonight - will probably result in serious breathing like SM! Smile

Update: hammered it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck Boogie ...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

took it back by 9 seconds in the end Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's 8 seconds too many Wink

Well done!!


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