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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I'm going to put in a shout for the island of Arran off the west coast of Scotland.  A 58 mile ride around with some decent climbs.  Good day out cycling!







That hill is quite a nasty little climb to get into the village of Lochranza on the north coast.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to put in a shout for the island of Arran off the west coast of Scotland.  A 58 mile ride around with some decent climbs.  Good day out cycling!




Good call. Arran is a great spot for all sorts of reasons, but it's especially worth taking your bike. The string road across the middle of the island is a terrific alpine-style climb and descent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to put in a shout for the island of Arran off the west coast of Scotland.  A 58 mile ride around with some decent climbs.  Good day out cycling!




Good call. Arran is a great spot for all sorts of reasons, but it's especially worth taking your bike. The string road across the middle of the island is a terrific alpine-style climb and descent.


The String is horrible!  When I heard the name, I thought "how hard can it be?"  Then I went up it...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, I'm currently tracking that book, Monty.  Don't tell everyone Laughing  Price has now gone up to 3.20GBP.  I do try and "snipe".  My prob is, don't have Broadband, so refresh is quite slow - very irritating!


Just sent you a PM, Kathy....which I think you can now ignore as I see the bidding's now over 6 quid!!  Shocked  Shocked


Coincidence - or what?  Yesterday, one day after I was bewailing my lack of Broadband, I got a phone call from the Spanish telephone operators, Telefonica, to say that broadband is at last available in my village.  Telefonica's own package is v. expensive, so I'll shop around to try and get it sorted.

There is another signed copy of the Pantani book up for auction on Ebay.  The "Kings of the Mountains' are still fixed price, so as I have several books to read at the moment, I think I'll bide my time.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been reading "The Unknown Tour de France" Well written by a man who is clearly passionate about the sport and the old days with all the usual old stories and a few i've never heard.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished watching a vid of the 1995 Giro I picked up in Hay for a fiver.
Time certainly flies.
Sad to see neo-pro Dennis Zanette take his first victory, close ups of a smiling young rider. A decade later, dead at the dentist.
Shocking too, seeing the avalanche on the Colle d'Agnello, that completely engulfed a race organiser's car, with him and his son inside. Needless to say, the stage was truncated.
A tough race, totally fuelled by EPO.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was sorting through the my old VHS' this afternoon and came across "A Sunday in Hell". Just one of the small pleasures of flexi-time, 'suppose; certainly put a smile on my face for the rest of the day, even if laced with a tinge of sadness when we consider how many of those great riders were lost so young.

Promised myself I'd watch it sometime before this years battle royale.

Any idea if it's been upgraded to DVD?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beasley - check out:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-Sunday-in...QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, Bartali.

Worth breaking my self-imposed eBay ban for!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always like to read a cycling book at night during the GT's.  Just ordered Sex, Lies and Handlebar Tape: The Remarkable Life of Jacques Anquetil.  For such a famous cyclist, I have to admit I know next to nothing about him.

William Fotheringham is writing Fallen Angel: The Passion of Fausto Coppi (due June '09) which I'm sure will interest many here.

Will Jeremy Whittle's Bad Blood ever see the light of day?  It's now due this June.

Anyone know of anything else forthcoming?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pulling this back from the archives in time for Xmas.

Probable only of interest to those of us who followed the domestic calendar, but just finished reading a cracker of a book: Team on the Run: The Inside Story of the Linda McCartney Pro-Cycling team.

Written by the press guy/general dogsbody, so a great insight into what life's like for the guys who don't have thousands cheering their name every time they race.

Brought a couple of things to light for me. Firstly, just how bloody hard this sport is behind the scenes; constant struggle to please sponsor and chase race organisers. It even tougher at the bottom than it is the top! Secondly, just how successful Linda McCartney actually where. A Giro stage win; Sciandri's Giro del Lazio; series of strong showing across Europe and in Australia. Not bad for a fairly amateur outfit. Had they been able to keep the books in order, there must have been a Tour spot on the cards.

Only 200-odd pages; well worth the effort.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've asked Santa for Sex Lies and Handelbar Tape regarding the Maitre JA
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a bit late for christmas gift idea but hey if they're somehow that is splotting revenge on you because you realise cvome tomorrow you didn't get them a gift then this might work for you. It's the follow up from US postal's michael barry to his book "Inside the Postal Bus: My Ride with Lance Armstrong and US Postal Cycling Team " and this is about his time racing in the ruta del sol in al andalus i think, "Homage to Al-Andalus" by Michael Barry - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Homage-Al...oks&qid=1230120406&sr=8-2 or maybe it has nothing to do with cycling whatsoever and it might be written by a different michael barry. it could be a popular name
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will F has a new book out. Cyclopedia

http://www.guardianbookshop.co.uk...viewProduct.do?ISBN=9780224083010

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environ...3/cyclopedia-william-fotheringham


From dogs to doping - an excerpt from Cyclopedia

The first of two abridged extracts from William Fotheringham's compendium of two-wheeled knowledge




bike blog : cyclopedia Medical opinion is divided over whether cycling is good for sexual health. Photograph: Corbis

Since getting on a bike as a teenager I've learned that the joy of cycling is its infinite variety: sport, transport, perhaps the best way of discovering the world, an escape to solitude and nature, a social network that beats any of the virtual variety and a way of finding your physical limits.

In compiling Cyclopedia, published this week, I had a simple goal: to produce a compendium of two-wheeled knowledge that might help to take cyclists of all kinds out of their personal bubbles and offer some signposts to parts of the sport they never knew existed. The aim is not to be prescriptive, but suggestive: if you find things in the book that make you want to visit a race, buy a DVD or simply learn more, it will have served its purpose.

This is the first of two abridged extracts of items from the book:

Dogs

Man's best friend, cyclist's worst enemy (and occasional training aid in the sprint to get away from those snapping teeth). Victorian cyclists carried heavyweight small-calibre pistols to deal with threatening mutts, the Germans made gunpowder-filled anti-dog grenades, while US cyclists could buy ammonia sprays, and some still carry mace or pepper.

The best-known dog in pro racing is Molly, who belongs to the 2009 world champion Cadel Evans of Australia. In a media crush at the 2008 Tour de France, Evans shouted at one journalist: "If you stand on my dog I'll cut your head off." His website later sold T-shirts with the motto: "Don't stand on my dog."

In the 1950s, the cycling cartoonist Johnny Helms perfectly depicted the cyclist's nightmare: a mischievous breed of hound with sharklike teeth and gaping grin, often with a scrap of cycling shorts in its mouth. The best-selling bike bible, Richard's Bicycle Book, recommends using pepper sprays, ramming the pump down the dog's throat or kicking its genitals. He concludes: "If worst comes to worst and you are forced down to the ground by a dog, ram your entire arm down his throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than your throat."

Knowledge, the

Body of tradition and received opinion "compiled" by Robert Millar in idle moments and written up in Cycle Sport magazine as a Tour de France survival guide. It included the following gems:

• Learn to swear in different languages. Other riders will appreciate your efforts to communicate. They'll also know who you are talking to.

• If you need a push in the mountains, looking really sick or completely knackered is a sure-fire way of getting crowd sympathy.

• Focus on Sundays. There are four of them. The first is fairly easy to get to, the second less so, the third means you have survived the mountains, and getting to the fourth means deliverance.

• Take something nice to eat on your survival days. It'll probably be the only good moment that day.

Sex

Medical opinion is divided over whether cycling is good for sexual health. Studies that indicate that pressure in the genital area from bicycle saddles is harmful are countered by evidence of the physical and mental wellbeing that comes from cycling. Early on, there was speculation that cycling after intercourse might be damaging for men, and that the very act of cycling might turn women into nymphomaniacs. No research exists to support either notion.

The issue of sex and racing is a vexed one: testosterone is rampant in the sport (and not merely the injected drug) while popular wisdom held for many years that professionals should be celibate. A chick-lit novel based on the Tour, Cat by Freya North implies that there is plenty of bedhopping on the race, and Laurent Fignon recalled inventing an alibi for a team mate who wanted a rendezvous with "an unofficial Miss France". On the other hand, Alfredo Binda, manager of the Italian team in the 1940s and 1950s, said that in his racing days, he permitted himself sex once a year. Fausto Coppi was found in his hotel room in bed with his mistress, the White Lady Giulia Locatelli, before a pursuit match in 1953: he told the soigneur [cycling team assistant] that he could make love and then win and was proved right.

Magic remedies from the world of the soigneurs


Xooee v ochkax

Transliteration of Russian for "penis in the eyes", this is what an ex-Soviet masseur at the Italian Carrera team used to say when his charges got on the massage table, reflecting their relative positions. It's called cultural exchange.

Gus Naessens' porridge

Naessens was the miracle worker who looked after Tom Simpson. One of his specials was boiling up cattle feed into porridge and putting it into the cyclists' feed bottles. The theory was it would sit in the stomach and prevent the muscles from using energy better directed to the legs. These days, he'd be selling crystals as a mental health aid.

Condom up the bum

Willy Voet's proudest moment, when he was initiated into this old Belgian method of getting clean urine into a dope-control bottle. Clean urine in the condom, which is concealed up the anus, small rubber tube to the penis, bit of hair on the tube so it is camouflaged (a "refinement" of which our Willy was particularly proud). It's fine as long as the urine provider hasn't been on the gear on the quiet, as happened on one famous occasion.

Tail of newt and eye of frog


Gino Bartali didn't have a legendary healer, but he had plenty of his own wacky peasant ideas: vinegar compresses, tobacco applied locally from cigarette butts, grape juice rubs. He was a firm believer in the power of magnetic fields and aligned his hotel room bed north-south. Other potions of the time included extracts of bee and toad venom, ether, pure cola, egg yolks in port and cigarettes.[/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alfredo Binda, manager of the Italian team in the 1940s and 1950s, said that in his racing days, he permitted himself sex once a year.
.... but he did keep at it for 365 days!   Shocked  Shocked  Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't remember this thread.

The discussion of sex and books reminded me of molecular transfer in the The Third Policeman and Eamon Morrissey performing his interpretation of Nolan's writings at The Taibhearc in Galway many moons ago.

Trivia fans may be interested to know that the book in question was featured in an episode of Lost (think Sawyer was reading it) and consequently it sold more in a couple of weeks than it had sold for many of the preceding years summed up and consequently sold out it's print run as people tried to decode Lost. The fools.
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I got given Cylopedia and to be honest it is a little bit disappointing. The rest of the book is not to the same standards as the extracts.

This is my 'review'

It's one of those books that can't really make up its mind what or who it is aimed at.

Basically, it is a collection of pen-portraits of various riders, organizers, the history of racing in certain countries etc

The author is very harsh on some riders etc and very easy on others. Some entries border on hagiography while others are very critical and somewhat sneery. For example the entry on Anquetil is spends a lot more time talking about his relationships and drugs than it does on his cycling.

The entry for the history of cycling in Ireland is bigger than the entry for the entry on Italy. Anquetil is dealt with in 2 pages, Bartali a page, Merckx 3 and half pages, Armstrong 4 pages, Frodo gets 2.

Some entries are quite amusing and others rather clunky and poorly written. It feels like he started the book with some good ideas and then ran out of them and was left filling them.

It is stocking-filler, the sort of book you read over xmas new year and maybe dip into now and again, rather than read and re-read.

One suspects the overly heavy-hand of an editor who wanted to pitch the book at the non or casual cycling fan rather than the historian.
A book which is largely aimed at the three week fan who wants to know a little bit more about cycling (hence the huge focus on english speaking riders) and a basic introduction to other classics, tours, and some of the history of the sport.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biosphere wrote:
Don't remember this thread.

The discussion of sex and books reminded me of molecular transfer in the The Third Policeman and Eamon Morrissey performing his interpretation of Nolan's writings at The Taibhearc in Galway many moons ago.

Trivia fans may be interested to know that the book in question was featured in an episode of Lost (think Sawyer was reading it) and consequently it sold more in a couple of weeks than it had sold for many of the preceding years summed up and consequently sold out it's print run as people tried to decode Lost. The fools.


the third policeman i found a very enjoyable read
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William Fotheringham is writing Fallen Angel: The Passion of Fausto Coppi (due June '09) which I'm sure will interest many here.


i have just started this Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

STOP PRESS:

New Giro d'Italia book out this spring by the bloke that wrote the eagle of canavase.  Think its the first one in english .... at least the first one for many years.


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