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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

That is one miserable week. I hope all is well now.

Boots. My fiance tried for years overshoes with no success. She still found she got cold and wet feet. I think she spent a fortune on overshoes. So she decided it was enough and went for the Sidi gore tex shoes. Not cheap mind you. So far so good but she does find that as she has small ankles, water still gets in at the top by the velcro. She also wears silk ski socks with another pair of socks on top (!) to keep warm.

I wear the Northwave Fahrenheit boots. Seem to keep feet toasty.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Guinness.  I actually tried for the Fahrenheit boots a couple of weeks ago but the bikeshop was out of them.  I'm going to London for a couple of days next week so I'll try to get them then.  Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone for the nuclear option recently when it's been wet - Porell Drys socks. I got them donkeys years ago and they are basically flexible rubber socks, so very much old technology. Completely impermeable in both directions, so v sweaty after a while, but the related micro climate keeps my toes warm. The neoprene overshoes on top probably aren't necessary, but I suffer very badly from cold extremities (doc suggests Reynaud's Syndrome but not formally diagnosed) and don't like to leave anything to chance.

Still working on the system for hands. Ski gloves maintain warmth, but at the cost of not being able to reliably brake or change gear, so this is a tough nut to crack.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, haven't got any suggestions for feet options - maybe try Prendas Ciclismo - they seem to have a good range of stuff.

Can understand what you mean about dexterity with ski gloves, but I met a woman, who had Reynauds, and ad electrically heated ski gloves! Might be an option...... sorry, dunno where she got 'em, but I guess you can google it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feet option that works for me, although I do live where it is rather dry, even if rather cold, the South of France.

Sealskin socks over winter socks, with seriously excellent overshoes seems to do everything needed, except when it is pissing down seriously for a long time.  Certainly keeps the cold out when it is dry.

For hands I use cotton liners inside ski gloves for the coldest weather.  They seem to work well in the rain too, but down here we don't go out in the rain a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerry12ie wrote:
Can anybody recommend warm, waterproof boots that don't cost an arm and a leg?  My wife has the Pearl Izumi Barrier GTX and they are top notch but are also €250.00.  I normally wear Shimano MTB boots in the winter but they are fairly useless in the rain.  We were out this morning and it started to rain after about 10k and inside a few minutes my feet were soaking and numb with cold.  That was a minor inconvenience though, compared to the real drama of the morning.  On a spin to Blessington lakes we were charged by three attack dogs, at least two of which were rotweillers.  No warning bark, just a charge down a driveway and out on to the main road after us.  I managed to swerve sharply to avoid a rotweiller while Marianne had to make her way through the other two and then try to get away from 'my one' while he was inches away from her heels.  Worst thing was it was uphill and very hard to kick away.  Marianne was really badly shaken after it but I guess that ultimately we were lucky as it was on a main road so anything could have happened were there cars behind.  We stopped and rang the cops but we spoke to cyclists later who said that the dogs were still out an hour later.  All told, a miserable finish to a miserable week.


Without wishing to seem naive, is that legal?  Can't you get the guy who left them out busted?  I remember after years of relative peace in the UK, I rode my bike a fair bit in Western Mass and found it a really scary thing, the dogs that were loose.  It seems to seldom happen around here in France.  It did once, and I had strong words for the owner who left them out.  But I never tried legal stuff.  I was ready to buy various sprays and noise makers but my stay was over before I did it.  I find those big dogs really quite scary.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seaskins are the doggies danglers boys and girls, I've used them for years on the trials bike and they really are essential survival kit. Never used overshoes, wet feet never bothered me on the bike on or off roadbut as I "mature" it's something I may need to consider!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...but as I "mature"...


Is that really likely, though? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...but as I "mature"...


Is that really likely, though? Smile


No Chance Wink  Wink

Maybe should have said as the body "continues to disintegrate" hit 44 the other day but feel about ten years older!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still working on the system for hands. Ski gloves maintain warmth, but at the cost of not being able to reliably brake or change gear, so this is a tough nut to crack.


I recently got the Adidas Climawarm gloves and they are great so far.  They have a Gore type front and  'synthetic leather' palms and fingers that grip really well.  I reckon thin cotton or wool liners inside them will do the job nicely for when temperatures fall further.  Not quite sure if they count as a system though!
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Maybe should have said as the body "continues to disintegrate" hit 44 the other day but feel about ten years older!


Disintegration is about right at our sort of age. Evolution hasn't really caught up with the fact that we need to function properly past our late 30s. Apparently, we're only designed to live to ~35. Things like toothpaste and antibiotics have buggered nature's plan. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not quite sure if they count as a system though!


Sorry - I lapsed into "Pretentious Cycling Kit Commentator" mode for a moment back there. Gloves are gloves, really, even if layered and designed for skiing. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get an Assos glove system that works very well!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can get an Assos glove system that works very well!


And only 15 quid a finger!  Warning: Product contains Unicorn hair... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

I think the Unicorn hair is in the Rapha gloves .... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baby, it's cold outside...
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Minus seven this morning, moving up to four or five now, excellent day for a walk and a level bike ride, no wind, sun, dry roads.   Love the South of France in the winter.
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Minus seven this morning, moving up to four or five now, excellent day for a walk and a level bike ride, no wind, sun, dry roads.   Love the South of France in the winter.


I wish......50 cm of snow in the back door about -1 at max heating... it's brilliant!! Just cleared the two cars, hers had 10 inches on the roof!!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty chilly round our way as well. Allegedly -14C on Saturday night. A balmy -7C by 11am on Sunday when Mrs SR drove off to go running. She is definitely a "rider short of a full peleton" at times...

My turbo session finished around 10am, and in an unheated, well ventilated workshop, it was an "experience". Legs, chest and head were fine(ish), warmed by the exercise, but feet and hands were completely numb despite thick socks and gloves respectively. (There was ice on the cleats when I started, though!)

I did what would normally be classed as a high end tempo / threshold ride - far harder than the plan calls for at this time of year - as this was the only way to generate enough body heat to stay warm.

No running for Mrs SR for a while now, though...



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Fools ..... you are all fools!!!  Stay indoors like god intended!


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