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forearms van petegem
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| Mrs John Murphy wrote: | I suspect that many of them want an 'exclusive' interview with the uniballer at some point in time - so they need to suck his dick every now and again. What better way than in a pointless and subject poll.
As for Whittle? What the fuck has Evans done this season bar fluke the World Championship. |
animated Dauphine, 3rd time runner up. Came 3rd in Vuelta.
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Fontfroide
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| forearms van petegem wrote: | | where was Inglourious Basterds? |
Hey Forearms,
What might you be talking about, in plain English? |
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Mrs John Murphy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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That makes no sense - finishing third in the Vuelta and animating a race is better than winning the Giro or Vuelta, winning a classic and coming second in the TDF...
Animating - other riders did it more often and more effectively.
Compared to riders who were not rated by Whittle - Evans has done fuck all and nothing to deserve that rating.
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kathy
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| Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: | | where was Inglourious Basterds? |
Hey Forearms,
What might you be talking about, in plain English? |
Ivan Basso, at a guess!
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Fontfroide
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Kathy.
Yeah well what can one say? As forearms will know, having read the other posts, Basso is not included in anyone's rating much at all. Does seem he might have figured somewhere, although I notice that MJM might not agree.
This is, for all it is worth, the only global poll there is. I suppose we might do our own on this forum and see how it turns out. I notice that some people also think the UCI ranking system is crap. I tend to be extremely critical and sceptical of all ranking systems,although they have infiltrated our modern society immensely in recent years. Medicine, education, cycling etc. Everyone seems to try to construct them and then often distribute money based on them. |
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forearms van petegem
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: | | where was Inglourious Basterds? |
Hey Forearms,
What might you be talking about, in plain English? |
being facetious. was.
Inglourious Basterds Tarantino film, think Tarantino has taken more than one Palm d'Or at Cannes. So it was a play on words on Palm d'Or and also on Inglourious Basterds, because, basically, that is what the top flight of the peloton is. |
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forearms van petegem
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mrs John Murphy wrote: | That makes no sense - finishing third in the Vuelta and animating a race is better than winning the Giro or Vuelta, winning a classic and coming second in the TDF...
Animating - other riders did it more often and more effectively.
Compared to riders who were not rated by Whittle - Evans has done fuck all and nothing to deserve that rating. |
he should have got a top 10. But not top 5.
1 Contador.
2 Valverde.
3 Schleck.
4 Cavendish.
5 Menchov.
6 Cancellara.
7 Evans.
8 Sammy Sanchez.
9 Luis Leon Sanchez.
10 Farrar.
honourable mention to Philippe Gilbert. He and Farrar are pretty line ball. |
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Fontfroide
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| forearms van petegem wrote: | | Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: | | where was Inglourious Basterds? |
Hey Forearms,
What might you be talking about, in plain English? |
being facetious. was.
Inglourious Basterds Tarantino film, think Tarantino has taken more than one Palm d'Or at Cannes. So it was a play on words on Palm d'Or and also on Inglourious Basterds, because, basically, that is what the top flight of the peloton is. |
Sorry for being unable to figure that out, but you gotta admit, it is a little bit subtle and obscure. Thanks for responding. And me, haven't even seen the film. |
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Fontfroide
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| forearms van petegem wrote: |
honourable mention to Philippe Gilbert. He and Farrar are pretty line ball. |
Sorry to be such a pain, but when two people are "pretty much line ball", what does that mean? Certainly Farrar had his best season ever, and should be full of confidence for the years to come. And Gilbert's last bit of the season was truly memorable. He should, unless something happens, be favourite for any one day race on earth for the next few years. I would also wager that both of them might be in the top ten next year.
But what is that expression you used? Sometimes I feel like I am just too far out in the sticks, too far away from English speaking culture and too old to understand what codes people are using. At least you use their normal names and not some code nicknames, so I know who you are talking about. |
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last km
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"pretty much line ball" a very British explanation, some howI think its a yank thing adopted from football ???
Everything in polo is based on the "Line of the Ball", an imaginary line created by the ball as it travels on the field.
The "Line of the Ball" defines rules for players to approach the ball safely. These rules are designed to prevent serious injury to players and their horses.
The "Line of the Ball" changes each time the ball changes direction.
The player who hit the ball has the right of way, and other players cannot cross the "Line of the Ball" in front of that player.
As players approach the ball they ride on either side of the "Line of the Ball" giving each access to the ball while reducing the risk of injury to players and ponies.
A player can cross the "Line of the Ball" when it does not create a dangerous situation. Most fouls and penalty shots are related to players improperly crossing the "Line of the Ball".
well you did ask.... 
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Yeah I did ask. I used to be just American and never heard of that expression. Now I am partly British and still didn't know it. Mind you I don't follow polo at all, and doubt if I ever will. 
So how would you apply that expression to Farrar and Gilbert. That they both play fair, do their sprints in a straight line, something like that. |
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last km
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I used to be just American ??? what do you mean....
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forearms van petegem
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| Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: |
honourable mention to Philippe Gilbert. He and Farrar are pretty line ball. |
Sorry to be such a pain, but when two people are "pretty much line ball", what does that mean? Certainly Farrar had his best season ever, and should be full of confidence for the years to come. And Gilbert's last bit of the season was truly memorable. He should, unless something happens, be favourite for any one day race on earth for the next few years. I would also wager that both of them might be in the top ten next year.
But what is that expression you used? Sometimes I feel like I am just too far out in the sticks, too far away from English speaking culture and too old to understand what codes people are using. At least you use their normal names and not some code nicknames, so I know who you are talking about. |
I meant Farrar and Gilbert were even, and I basically could not seperate them. HEW and Paris Tours are about even in my book. Farrar's weight of victories got him the vote, but Lombardia from Gilbert, you could argue was superior as a monument, and in hindsight, I may have to look at their respective seasons and see how Gilbert animated races. Was Gilbert third or fourth in Flanders.
If he made the podium I think I would switch this vote around. |
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forearms van petegem
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| Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: | | Fontfroide wrote: | | forearms van petegem wrote: | | where was Inglourious Basterds? |
Hey Forearms,
What might you be talking about, in plain English? |
being facetious. was.
Inglourious Basterds Tarantino film, think Tarantino has taken more than one Palm d'Or at Cannes. So it was a play on words on Palm d'Or and also on Inglourious Basterds, because, basically, that is what the top flight of the peloton is. |
Sorry for being unable to figure that out, but you gotta admit, it is a little bit subtle and obscure. Thanks for responding. And me, haven't even seen the film. |
completely obscure.
apologies. |
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forearms van petegem
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| forearms van petegem wrote: | | Mrs John Murphy wrote: | That makes no sense - finishing third in the Vuelta and animating a race is better than winning the Giro or Vuelta, winning a classic and coming second in the TDF...
Animating - other riders did it more often and more effectively.
Compared to riders who were not rated by Whittle - Evans has done fuck all and nothing to deserve that rating. |
he should have got a top 10. But not top 5.
1 Contador.
2 Valverde.
3 Schleck.
4 Cavendish.
5 Menchov.
6 Cancellara.
7 Evans.
8 Sammy Sanchez.
9 Luis Leon Sanchez.
10 Farrar.
honourable mention to Philippe Gilbert. He and Farrar are pretty line ball. |
actually, am I allowed to change my vote?
Gilbert ahead of Cavendish. Farrar out of top 10
If they still had the World Cup for the Classics, Gilbert would have won it. So, that would really alter the perception of his Spring and full season.
2009
1st Giro di Lombardia
1st Paris-Tours
1st Stage 20 Giro d'Italia
1st Giro del Piemonte
1st Coppa Sabatini
1st Overall Ster Elektrotoer
1st Stage 4
3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen
4th Amstel Gold Race
4th Ličge-Bastogne-Ličge |
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kathy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| last km wrote: | "pretty much line ball" a very British explanation, some howI think its a yank thing adopted from football ???
Everything in polo is based on the "Line of the Ball", an imaginary line created by the ball as it travels on the field.
The "Line of the Ball" defines rules for players to approach the ball safely. These rules are designed to prevent serious injury to players and their horses.
The "Line of the Ball" changes each time the ball changes direction.
The player who hit the ball has the right of way, and other players cannot cross the "Line of the Ball" in front of that player.
As players approach the ball they ride on either side of the "Line of the Ball" giving each access to the ball while reducing the risk of injury to players and ponies.
A player can cross the "Line of the Ball" when it does not create a dangerous situation. Most fouls and penalty shots are related to players improperly crossing the "Line of the Ball".
well you did ask....
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Sounds a bit like the port/starboard and windward boat rules in yachting 
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Fontfroide
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| forearms van petegem wrote: |
completely obscure.
apologies. |
Thanks Mr Avant Bras. Still, it makes reading this forum a bit like street poetry written in more than one language. Always requires a little interpretation. I am just the kind of guy who, when he does not understand something, asks what it means. After a certain age, one loses the need to be up to date, since it is totally impossible anyway. And what with allthe nicknames ... |
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| last km wrote: | | I used to be just American ??? what do you mean.... |
I spent the first 25 years of my life in the USA, except the odd trip to some foreign country. For the next 32 or so years (my adult life after University) I lived and worked in England, where I obtained British citizenship, thereby having two passports and two nationalities. I consider England my home, well Yorkshire actually, although I also know I am American, from the Midwest actually, Detroit in fact. Having lived in France for eight years and almost being a French citizen, things get complicated. I really am not fully at home anywhere at all, except maybe the Northwest of England, and even then ... with my accent, no one except my pals thinks I am "really" British and even they probably have doubts. I would NEVER claim to be "English" if you know what I mean.
But many years ago, I was "just a citizen of the USA". An American. |
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Gilbert's season really was excellent - I know Cavendish had the quantity but Gilbert's wins are real quality.
I hope a decent sprinter whose not on Columbia emerges soon to test Cavendish's mettle
And yes, FF, as has been adequately explained, the comment was a joke - thought the wink was a dead giveaway
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lance is still the man on the ticket..nobody else..ciao
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