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| forza_petacchi wrote: | | Sorry to take this off-topic but does anyone have recommendations for clip-on aero bars? Rex (the asst. Manager) ordered a bunch of Profile Design T2+ sets and I'm probably going to buy one. |
The best advice I can give you fp is make sure they have decent size bolts/clamps for fastening them to your handle bars, some of the cheaper ones work loose, which is annoying, especially in a race (ITT).
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CapeRoadie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have read many stories about how the Profile Design bolts either break or come loose during races. I personally think Profile design is crap. Everything I have tried by them (clip-on aero bars, bottle cages) was designed poorly and broke. But other people love their stuff and have had no problems with loose bolts. My advice: use Loctite (the blue stuff) to make sure the bolts don't come loose, whatever model of aerobars you choose.
Be careful of VisonTech as well... many product recalls. Haven't heard much about the Zipp clip-ons, but I like that company. Syntace makes a few different models, and I've heard they're okay, but bolts come loose.
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berck
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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I bought some Profile Design aero bars a few years back. I can attest to what Cape has said. The bolts do come loose. But never both at the same time. They worked fine for me, but you'll need to check the bolts once a month to make sure they are tight. I never had one break though.
I do also agree with Cape about Profile Design products. I haven't had much luck with their other stuff. Their bar tape wears out twice as fast as Cinelli tape. |
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Bartali
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| forza_petacchi wrote: | | Sorry to take this off-topic but does anyone have recommendations for clip-on aero bars? Rex (the asst. Manager) ordered a bunch of Profile Design T2+ sets and I'm probably going to buy one. |
Forza - If I were you, I would check out weight weenies for advice like this. Guys on that forum have ridden everything there is to ride ...
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/search.php?mode=results |
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forza_petacchi
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That's funny. I have a friend who has the bottom-of-the-line PD bars (the Century) and he rode them halfway cross-country (he bought them in Kansas) without any problems.
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CapeRoadie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| forza_petacchi wrote: | | That's funny. I have a friend who has the bottom-of-the-line PD bars (the Century) and he rode them halfway cross-country (he bought them in Kansas) without any problems. |
As I said, some people have had good luck with them. A high level U23 stage racer/TTer I know thinks PD is just fine. I'll tell you this, though:
If you're using carbon bars, switch to aluminum bars when adding clip-on aero bars, or you risk catastrophe!
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The mere idea of carbon bars scares me. I'll stick to alloy stems as well.
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| Oh yea of little faith! |
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| Bartali wrote: | | Oh yea of little faith! |
What kind are you running on your bike? (It's a Parlee, right?)
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| Its a Parlee Z3sl with Schmolke carbon bars and a extralite (non-carbon) stem. |
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CapeRoadie
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We will pray for him, fp.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll take all the prayers I can get, but I've never heard of a Schmolke bar break! |
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I use a carbon bar too and no worries.
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If carbon is OK for seat posts, I don't see why bars should be a worry.
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Chas .... they'll be singing the virtues of down tube shifters and 5 speed cassettes before we know it  |
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Downtube shifters are actually lighter than Flight Deck. We have a poster at the shop of Lance using a downtube shifter for the front on a mountain stage in 2005.
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| CapeRoadie wrote: | | We will pray for him, fp. |
Do you mean my friend? He finished a month and a half ago! He did about 4300 miles  in 2 months.
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| chasm wrote: | | If carbon is OK for seat posts, I don't see why bars should be a worry. |
SNAP goes the seat post!
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| chasm wrote: | | If carbon is OK for seat posts, I don't see why bars should be a worry. |
I've had a friend break one of those carbon seat posts. One reason I stay away from anything with zertz inserted in them. |
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| CapeRoadie wrote: | | chasm wrote: | | If carbon is OK for seat posts, I don't see why bars should be a worry. |
SNAP goes the seat post! |
What happens more frequently with carbon posts that have alloy clamps is that the glue holding them together will separate. The carbon rarely cracks.
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