They've put all their bets in the Favre basket for this one season. If (or rather when?) it fails, then Chilly will no doubt be disposed of.
It is an entertaining squad but Favre will not make it through the season without a) getting injured, and/or b) playing like rubbish late in the year.
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Just how bad are the eagles playing to actually be training the Oakland Raiders and their magic man QB, Russell? The latter has to be the worst highly drafted signal caller in recent memory. The man cannot hit the side of a building from 20 yards...
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I believe the Vince Young watch has officially begun in Tenn.
The catch about Favre though, is that while his antics have left his reputation mostly (not totally) unscathed with the media - plenty of punters detest him as a prima donna - especially in NFL cities. I sense that the cycling fanbase in America is more fawning towards Pharmstrong than the NFL fanbase is towards Favre.
Undoubtedly so. Mostly because the American cycling fan base is comprised of people who only know cycling because of Lance. And Favre's antics probably disgust more people than not, (myself included) but man ma I amazed how much media attention he can create just by farting. _________________ I do not need mountains to win the TDF, I need drugs!
As a Vikings fan I am troubled. I hate Childress for being a shit coach, over conservative and having the man-management skills of a stoat. I hate Favre for being a whiney-me first bitch and all those years of the media sucking him off. But this is the best Vikings team I've seen since maybe 87... we might win led by guys I wouldn't shit on from a great height. I hate to say it but we are 6-0 and not 3-3 because of Favre.
So as a Vikes fan I always wait for the penny to drop.
The Pats game - that is like a scene from 'Oz'...
What about that one year in the mid-90's when they had Randall Cunningham, Randy Moss, and Cris Carter? I think they only lost one game that year. They went 15-1, lost to the Falcons in OT in the playoffs, bummer end to spectacular season. _________________ I do not need mountains to win the TDF, I need drugs!
As a Vikings fan I am troubled. I hate Childress for being a shit coach, over conservative and having the man-management skills of a stoat. I hate Favre for being a whiney-me first bitch and all those years of the media sucking him off. But this is the best Vikings team I've seen since maybe 87... we might win led by guys I wouldn't shit on from a great height. I hate to say it but we are 6-0 and not 3-3 because of Favre.
So as a Vikes fan I always wait for the penny to drop.
The Pats game - that is like a scene from 'Oz'...
What about that one year in the mid-90's when they had Randall Cunningham, Randy Moss, and Cris Carter? I think they only lost one game that year. They went 15-1, lost to the Falcons in OT in the playoffs, bummer end to spectacular season.
That Vikes team was very good offensively but outside of John Randle the D was never that good that season. It was basically that they could pretty much score at will and as long as the D made enough stops/or the opposition was forced to throw etc.
The 99 team had the best offense, the 87 team pre-Millard blowing out his knee was the best all around team.
The media is sure to fawn over the vikings, and especially for Brett Favre and the 6-0 start. Nevermind that Favre has collapsed in the latter half of every season for the past 5 years or so.
Is that why Farve wanted the Vikes so he would have the Dome to help him out. ? _________________ It's all Publicity "Money" and Cycling is only a Thread it runs along.
In a Winter Wonder Land the commentator said.
Bloody Hell it looks Cold up there Cape.
Last year I saw Farve set a record with 6 touchdown passes.
Brady throws 5 in the 2nd quarter and another one, five minutes into the third.
All done with a blizzard taking place. _________________ It's all Publicity "Money" and Cycling is only a Thread it runs along.
John Madden in one of his books recounts a conversation he had with one of his receivers about the best conditions to play in. The WR said that snow and cold were the best conditions for a WR - simple reason, CB's have to react to the WR, in icy conditions it is harder for them to get the traction to make those responses - just enough for a good receiver to get open or to break a play.
I agree with MJM - in the snow, it is far, far easier on the receivers and in general the offense.
All it takes is one slip from a defender, particularly in the secondary, and a simple 5 yard pass to a RB can turn into a long, long touchdown.
Granted the offense can suffer from fumbles in wet weather, but the risk of giving up a big play is quite high for the defense in snow/ice.
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Did you all note that Zorn has now been stripped of playcalling duties in washington? I think the ownership hoped he would resign as a result and save them, the owners, from having to sack him outright. If zorn, supposedly an offensive mastermind, is not calling the plays, then what purpose does he serve as manager?
I expect Shanahan or Cowher to be managing the washington squad next season..
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The media is sure to fawn over the vikings, and especially for Brett Favre and the 6-0 start. Nevermind that Favre has collapsed in the latter half of every season for the past 5 years or so.
Is that why Farve wanted the Vikes so he would have the Dome to help him out. ?
Very possibly.
I think Favre wanted minnesota because 1) most importantly, they have a very talented team built to challenge for a title right now, 2) he can beat his old team and old rivals from the same division, 3) he knows the offensive play system, and 4) 8 home games indoors.
Ironic how Favre, once known as mr. cold weather has done very poorly in cold weather games in recent year.
Ironic how Favre, once known as mr. cold weather has done very poorly in cold weather games in recent year.
That comes with AGE and wanting to stay in the warm.
I know the feeling and Baby it's Cold outside.
And on that Note.
I now have my 2 game tickets for the Niners and 1 for the Cardinals next month.
(well I will when I collect at the "Will Call" Windows)
Be Lucky _________________ It's all Publicity "Money" and Cycling is only a Thread it runs along.
I agree with MJM - in the snow, it is far, far easier on the receivers and in general the offense.
All it takes is one slip from a defender, particularly in the secondary, and a simple 5 yard pass to a RB can turn into a long, long touchdown.
Granted the offense can suffer from fumbles in wet weather, but the risk of giving up a big play is quite high for the defense in snow/ice.
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Did you all note that Zorn has now been stripped of playcalling duties in washington? I think the ownership hoped he would resign as a result and save them, the owners, from having to sack him outright. If zorn, supposedly an offensive mastermind, is not calling the plays, then what purpose does he serve as manager?
I expect Shanahan or Cowher to be managing the washington squad next season..
Would either want to work for mini-Al Davis - Dan Snyder though?
The Redskins are a very dysfunctional franchise - tons of money thrown at them but never any solution.
Denver moves to 6-0... looking like the early winners from the Orton-Cutler trade.
Childress's conservativism will bite the Vikes on the arse in one game - much as Reid's play calling caused the Eagles to lose against the Raiders. That strikes me as perhaps the biggest coaching fuck up - especially when you consider how records matter going into the post-season etc
Would either want to work for mini-Al Davis - Dan Snyder though?
The Redskins are a very dysfunctional franchise - tons of money thrown at them but never any solution.
Denver moves to 6-0... looking like the early winners from the Orton-Cutler trade.
Childress's conservativism will bite the Vikes on the arse in one game - much as Reid's play calling caused the Eagles to lose against the Raiders. That strikes me as perhaps the biggest coaching fuck up - especially when you consider how records matter going into the post-season etc
Why do I think Cowher or Shanahan would agree to manage washington? Because 1 - they would get total control (manager & GM/personnel) over the team, 2 - Snyder, while not especially savvy, is quite willing to spend a great deal on hiring/buying players, 3 - there are some talented players on the team, Landry, Cooley, Haynesworth, etc, despite the poor record, and 4 - let's not kid ourselves, Snyder will pay absolutely top dollar for these coaches and I believe money is a factor.
About Denver, I'm a bit shocked as all the other Bellichek discples, have done very poorly as managers of their own teams. I thought McDaniels, after the Cutler row, was in trouble but they've done very well. Too soon to tell though, maybe after next season we will know for sure. Take away Favre from the Vikings (as expected next year) and the Bears are probably the best team in that division.
Speaking of Minnesota, they are truly a mere 2 plays away from being 4-2. The missed kick by the Ravens last game and the miracle pass with mere seconds left against the SF squad. Both were at home and their road victories have not been impressive. Based on how frightened, no ther way to describe it, Childress called plays during the last drive of the Baltimore game, they deserved to lose.
Speaking of Minnesota, they are truly a mere 2 plays away from being 4-2. The missed kick by the Ravens last game and the miracle pass with mere seconds left against the SF squad. Both were at home and their road victories have not been impressive. Based on how frightened, no ther way to describe it, Childress called plays during the last drive of the Baltimore game, they deserved to lose.
As a Niner fan...I can tell you that there was a collective GASP at the end of that Vikings game. Darn....the Niners were inches from a sack. I am with you. The Vikings were 2 plays away from 4-2. The team that has looked flat out impressive has been the Saints. Dang....still wish I had Brees as my fantasy QB.
I have Brees as my QB. My team 'Chris Cooley's Penis' is standing proud in homage to the Washington Blogger.
The thing that is frustrating about the Vikes is that as you say - by all rights they should be 4-2 because of the play-calling etc, BUT with the talent they should be 6-0. The game against the Ravens should not have been close. They came out fast and then Childress fucked it up.
In the Niners game if Longwell kicks the field goal it is 16-7 Vikes at the half, they limited the Niners to 54 yards rushing AND they still fucked it up.
The Vikes pass defence especially underneath and throw the middle (virtually every TE has had a big game against us) is an achilles heal and opponents can milk it like a cow.
Right with ya MJM....Vikings have the talent. They should be utilizing Adrian Peterson so much more....but if the Vikings were in a playoff game against the Saints today....well, it would be the Saints in a rather easy win. As a Viking fan you must be pretty excited though.
Ooooh I am jealous of you. Brees has been racking up some serious fantasy points. He was drafted early in all the leagus I play in....darn! I should not complain...as Peyton Manning has been very good for me this year.
Local news announced that Crabtree will play for the Niners this weekend....which should be interesting.
Speaking of Minnesota, Drew Brees, and the Saints - it certainly looks like these two clubs are favorites to play for the conference title. One advantageous twist for both is that such a game would be indoors.
Minnesota would appear to have an edge in talent, but in terms of play calling and schemes, it seems the Saints have a significant advantage. Plus I would trust Drew Brees over Favre late in the season. Naturally Peterson is superior to all of the running backs for New Orleans put together.
As for SF, they could desperately use Crabtree. Teams seem to be loading up against their run-heavy offense and putting the game in the hands of Shaun Hill and a very ordinary group of receivers. I know oftentimes first year receivers do not contribute much, but they need him. Otherwise, Arizona looks to once again, win the division by a wide margin.
Speaking of Minnesota, Drew Brees, and the Saints - it certainly looks like these two clubs are favorites to play for the conference title. One advantageous twist for both is that such a game would be indoors.
Minnesota would appear to have an edge in talent, but in terms of play calling and schemes, it seems the Saints have a significant advantage. Plus I would trust Drew Brees over Favre late in the season. Naturally Peterson is superior to all of the running backs for New Orleans put together.
As for SF, they could desperately use Crabtree. Teams seem to be loading up against their run-heavy offense and putting the game in the hands of Shaun Hill and a very ordinary group of receivers. I know oftentimes first year receivers do not contribute much, but they need him. Otherwise, Arizona looks to once again, win the division by a wide margin.
I like the heck out of the Saints and the way they play, but I'm a little shaky on the trust factor for Brees. If you look at a lot of the passes he threw against the Giants, they were bouncing off the defenders left and right. He's kind of like the old Favre "gunslinger" type. I don't know how he's pulled it off so far, but I see a lot of interceptions for him. _________________ I do not need mountains to win the TDF, I need drugs!
The Patriots and the Bucs are playing at Wembley Stadium in London on Sunday. How do the Londoners/other Europeaners feel about this? _________________ I do not need mountains to win the TDF, I need drugs!
Speaking of Minnesota, Drew Brees, and the Saints - it certainly looks like these two clubs are favorites to play for the conference title. One advantageous twist for both is that such a game would be indoors.
Minnesota would appear to have an edge in talent, but in terms of play calling and schemes, it seems the Saints have a significant advantage. Plus I would trust Drew Brees over Favre late in the season. Naturally Peterson is superior to all of the running backs for New Orleans put together.
As for SF, they could desperately use Crabtree. Teams seem to be loading up against their run-heavy offense and putting the game in the hands of Shaun Hill and a very ordinary group of receivers. I know oftentimes first year receivers do not contribute much, but they need him. Otherwise, Arizona looks to once again, win the division by a wide margin.
I like the heck out of the Saints and the way they play, but I'm a little shaky on the trust factor for Brees. If you look at a lot of the passes he threw against the Giants, they were bouncing off the defenders left and right. He's kind of like the old Favre "gunslinger" type. I don't know how he's pulled it off so far, but I see a lot of interceptions for him.
Perhaps but he's still playing at a very high level and has been now for several years. Whereas Favre has gotten worse as the season has progressed in the same timespan.
A good test for the vikings and favre this week regardless, in playing at pittsburgh. The offense has been quite good for minnesota, despite the conservative playcalling, but the defence has looked quite suspect. They gave up a mass of yardage to Baltimore in a mere 1/2 of the game.
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