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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

bartali i know that ..my colnago frame/fork.. was 900 cad dollars in 85..
it casted me complete .. with gp4 rims like yours around 2100.. with shoes thrown in.. Look blue label like hinault used.. they were awesome...

i shined my hubs with metal shine, they glow...Blue Magic..

i use clement seta..for my pro-am... at queens park.. in toronto

hravery lenard nitz won.. i finished near the back.. average that 51.600

try that..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be about right.  A top end Colnago like yours would have been about 600 in 1985 - which would have been about 950 CAD dollars.

Sounds slick - any photos?

You are one fast dude TT.  I'm not fast, but the hills are my play ground.  Not in your class though!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hate those fucken hills...SPRINTER... but an uphill tt i go like wind.. in a race i fall liek a stone threw water... ciao
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm clearly in a reflective mood.  Popped in to see my folks up North today and picked up my first road bike (frame).  Picture this ... 10 years old and your dad buys you a pocket sized 18" 531 beauty like this.  I think it was made to exhibit in the Harrogate cycle show in (perhaps) 1975.

I wanted a Bianchi like Gimondi rode (only a lot smaller) - but I grew to love my curly lugs!








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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bartali wrote:
. . . Popped in to see my folks up North today . . .


Took the private jet out for a burn then?  Laughing

Love the detailing at the joints. All in all it looks very like a classic from another era. The impact of carbon/computers/aerodynamics/etc. has had a huge impact on bike design in recent years, but part of me wonders how much of it is just eye candy to part us from our cash?

What's with the rear wheel "positioners" on the drop outs? I've never seen anything like that before.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful frame, Bartali!  The lugs and brazing is gorgeous!  You were a lucky little boy once!  I hope one day my daughters look back at their bikes like you do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice frame.. ciao
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's with the rear wheel "positioners" on the drop outs? I've never seen anything like that before.


In the "old days" they were for accuratley positioning your rear wheel and to assist making a quick change. You young uns know nowt  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last km wrote:

In the "old days" they were for accurately positioning your rear wheel and to assist making a quick change. You young uns know nowt  Wink


OK, I was thinking it would be something like that. Now my next stupid question Very Happy Why have such a long "travel" on the dropouts? Why not just shorten them and have the wheel slot all the way in and be positioned that way? Like today's models? Or the front wheel on the bike in question?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only we knew then what we know now eh ???
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those stop in the drop-outs was to move you wheel aheasd..so the wheel base was shorter when doing a critirium, and slighlty backed off when the road season begins.  my colnago has it...ciao
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TT - you're a genius  Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thunderthighs wrote:
those stop in the drop-outs was to move you wheel aheasd..so the wheel base was shorter when doing a critirium, and slighlty backed off when the road season begins. my colnago has it...ciao


You are older than you appear TT  Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and my Battaglin if you look closely.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats why iam a good rider..young in body.. old in brain....

YOU PEOPLE ARE HACKS !!!!!!!!!!

CIAO
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT you're so nice. Always a pleasure readin your posts. Laughing
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paperman..there may be a ray of hope for you..ciao
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that anybody other than Cape will care, but looking back at Bartali's Battaglin I saw my post about solar energy. Thinking about it again it was obvious that I messed up my numbers (as predicted .  Laughing ). At the eight of summer and assuming clear sky, Boston has a higher rate of incident solar energy than the equator!
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Biosphere: Aren't people in England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales 'investing' in solar energy for their homes....I would be very interested to hear how it goes for those 'investors'. I was reading your post about recent bike design, eye candy, and partin us from our cash (coming from the guy who bought the cervelo solist carbon....Its the 'aerodynamic' one). I bear this in mind as I consider how wise it is of someone in this part of the world to invest in or maek use of solar energy systems!!! Is it all just another con?. Costs a packet, ultimately saves you very little!! I should say this is me being a cynic, because I can be very cynical, funnily enough my cynicism often proves correct.....What I know about such systems, you could write on the back of a stamp!

Bartali: That frame looks good. Nice looking job, you going to do anything with it?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I posted a while back about spending half an hour browsing the Cervelo website and I thought the bikes looked beautiful and I'd more than quite happily own one Very Happy You had it out for a ride yet?

The solar energy thing all depends on how you look at it. Solar thermal (heating water directly) is reasonably efficient and doesn't use expensive semiconductors. On the other hand, solar voltaic (generating electricity) does use the expensive stuff (think of the old Intel adds with the lab monkeys in the "spacesuits") and is quite inefficient. Depending on the level of government grants people investing at the moment may have to wait a long time to see a benefit in their own pockets. However, it stimulates the industry and gets us closer to the holy grail of cheap "printed" solar voltaic panels that can be rolled out on a roof and installed easily. Think of those "investing" now as altruists Very Happy

You've now got me thinking about future foreign policy meddling in equatorial countries for their sunshine!!

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