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tourmalet

Where are people going riding this summer?

I'm all excited because I've booked a week's cycling in the Pyrenees in mid May after a year off the bike. We're going to stay in Aričge, in between Col de la Core and Col d'Agnes. Hoping to get some serious cols in....

Where are other people headed? Anyone got any favourite rides I should tink about.
Bartali

Pyrenees for the etape in July, then maybe I'll hang round in Orthez to see the Tour.

If anyone fancies the Alps, I can recommend a great chalet at the foot of the Joux Plane.
berck

I'll be doing the Death Ride in July here in California. My plan is to make all five passes. I'll see if I can do it.
bbnaz

Nothing epic until September. I will then be doing the Best Buddies Ride from Carmel down to Hearst Castle (which was stage 4 of Tour of California) that runs down Hiway 1 along the Pacific coast. Quite spectacular if I don't go off the road.
CapeRoadie

I'm going up Mt. Washington in NH. I'm going to circle Nova Scotia (Cabot Trail) if I'm lucky enough to escape for a week. I'm going to crank the Kank. I'm going from Boston to Provincetown for a 120-mile jaunt. And I'll be racing little circles every weekend somewhere until I get faster.
bianchigirl

Doc, I'd take the Boston - P-Town ferry if I were you Wink

I just hope to be teaching Tom to ride one of those cool balance bikes
crash48

Doing the Ventoux sportif in May, followed by the Ballon d Alsace sportif in early June.

Then the Pyrenees for the tour and some riding of my own, and then a couple of sportifs in Italy including the tour of Lomabardy sportif in Oct.

In between this a bit of local racing, to keep the legs turning over.
Bartali

Crash - Tour of Lombardy Sportive??? Please tell me more.
tourmalet

bianchigirl wrote:


I just hope to be teaching Tom to ride one of those cool balance bikes


they look great - there's a kid in our local park who is like a demon on his. i've been eye-ing them up for alex.
sheeponabike

BB - that sounds spectacular - be sure to post some pics!
bbnaz

You can count on it Sheep as I am sure I will be taking more than my share of "breaks" which will allow for photographs!
berck

BB, that is a spectacular ride. Absolutely beautiful. Hopefully the tour buses won't be running at that time of the year. Their is not much should for the first 30 miles. I rode it during one summer and buses were running back and forth from Carmel to Big Sur. Once your past Big Sur, its much more peaceful
crash48

Bartali

Its the giro Lombardia held the day after the pro race in Oct. Its 110 kms long and does all the famous climbs.

Entries can be found here, as well as a stack of other Gran fondo events:

http://www.championchip.it/pubblico/welcome.do

Info here:

http://www.gazzetta.it/challenge/gara_giro_lombardia_descrizione.shtml
Bartali

Thanks Crash.

I might have to do some tricky negotiating with Mrs Bartali ... but it looks good!
CapeRoadie

bbnaz wrote:
Nothing epic until September. I will then be doing the Best Buddies Ride from Carmel down to Hearst Castle (which was stage 4 of Tour of California) that runs down Hiway 1 along the Pacific coast. Quite spectacular if I don't go off the road.


You can count on my money for that bb. Let me know. Hey, why do they get all serious when I joke about NASCAR? Jeesh.
CapeRoadie

bianchigirl wrote:
Doc, I'd take the Boston - P-Town ferry if I were you Wink

I just hope to be teaching Tom to ride one of those cool balance bikes


The ferry? I'll do laps on the sun deck?

What is a balance bike? Would it be good for my 4-year old?
tourmalet

[quote="CapeRoadie"]
bianchigirl wrote:


What is a balance bike? Would it be good for my 4-year old?


they are bikes with no pedals which the kid pushes along with their feet - meant to let them go straight to a real bike without need for stabilisers. might be ok for a 4 yr old - i'd have thought 3+ (although i'm only only babies at moment so not an expert)
headwind

Cycling from Vienna to Salzburg via the Austrian Alpes. Otherwise its the rollers and mts of East Tennessee!!
bianchigirl

balance bikes seem to be 2 - 5 (there's also a rather cool balance scooter with optional sheepskin seat cover Very Happy)

hw sounds fantastic - and far too much like hard work! we'll be shrimping in the rock pools of brittany with the occasional very leisurely promenade a velo Wink
bbnaz

MrB will be doing his 6th edition of Paris/Brest/Paris and then whatever riding he fits in afterwards................
headwind

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wh.../04/curiosity_1.html?hpid=artslot

Heres an interesting article about one of the hardest (possibly the hardest) ultramarathons in the world...as an endurance athelete story is very interesting...but the cool thing is that it occurs near where I live and train. If you click on the intereactive map you can see highway 116, one of the local mountain rides I do...and you have to avoid the state prison...good panarama pictures too.

hw
tourmalet

oh dear - my husband is getting into triathlons and would love to do one of those iron man things. when tipsy i offered to do the cycling bit of a half-ironman (does it become an irongirl if i do it?) in a relay with my borther and hubby. it's this summer - wensleydale triathlon - going to have to get some trainign in though as i haven't cycled for over 10 months.
sabcarrera

I'm lucky enough to live in the Northern Appenines and can recommend it for cyclists
http://reggioemiliaturismo.provincia.re.it/default.asp
crash48

sabcarrera

Thats prime cycling country-and eating country as well.

Lucky sod!
sabcarrera

crash48 wrote:
sabcarrera

Thats prime cycling country-and eating country as well.

Lucky sod!


I know.
In fact some prime MTB tracks start just outside my house.
I'm not so lucky on the road, the company I keep and my weight mean that could do with help from justcycling board members.
thunderthighs

we have a mall around us that so large that you can race cars around, we play last man across is out, usualy get 40+ riders.. 5 bucks each, we get senoir 1 2 junoir hot shots. every sunday @ 2pm.. i won a few.. my cat eye was at 63 kph when i won. BLEW THEM OUT THE BACK....CIAO
bbnaz

you must have been GASSED................
thunderthighs

nah..to much talent to spare... u all stink !!!! ciao
bbnaz

Laughing

Glad to see you are feeling up to snuff Wink
Slapshot

I am doing the "Quebrantahuesos" at the end of june

Puerto de Somport
Puerto de Portalet
Puerto de Hoz
Puerto de Marie Blanque
crash48

Watch those downhill sections. More to the point watch those bloody riders who can't go downhill!
Bartali

Let us know how it goes - looks like one hell of a route! How long to you expect to be in the saddle and what training are you doing?
alanmcn1

You guys make me feel very inadequate. Having never climbed a proper hill in my life, i am going to ventoux this July. Am a fit guy, run and cycle lots here, but have no idea how I will get on with the Giant! Any tips warmly received, my fear levels are rising daily
Slapshot

My intention is to do it under the 9 hours.

At the moment I am more focused into doing long time rides, minimum 6:30 hrs, not that much on the distance, but I have to say that is always over the 90 miles mark.

And I am trying to use low gears as much as possible, and find steep hills to go up to, if I find one I normally go up and down at least three times, I know is not the same that a long col but is better than a kick on the balls!!!!
Bartali

Good for you Alan. I know all about fear levels rising Wink

Best advice I can give you is:

1) start well within yourself. No point blowing early on when you've gone all that way. You can always speed up later.

2) Ventoux is not toooo steep, but is very long. Make sure you are not over geared. Obviously this will depend on how strong/fit you are and the length of the ride etc, but don't be afraid to use a compact, triple or a big granny cog at the back. It's not a macho english club run ... no one will laugh at your low gears.

3) drink lots!!! eat lots!!! Carry plenty of energy food and use it. Not sure how long the total ride is, but don't ride for more than an hour without havng a nibble.

4) As you probably know, the mountain is exposed at the top and can be very very windy. apply sun cream and be phycologically prepared to battle the wind.

5) Most of all .... YOU are Mayo, Anquitel, Pantani etc. ENYOY it no matter how much it hurts.

Finally, doff your cap to Tom S for all of us on this board.
Slapshot

I will watch out on those downhills, Crash, specially when there are 7,500 cyclist doing it!!!!
Bartali

Berg - pretty similar to my etape training then except I'm not riding as long as you at the moment. I'm on 5.5 hour rides, but will slowly step it up between now and mid July.

Like the idea of riding each hill 3 times. My route 5.5h route in the Chilterns takes in 20 short climbs. As I step up the time, using your idea I could knock of 60 climbs! (and it will still be less climbing than the etape!)
bbnaz

If you have any multi level parking garages near you, they are very good for "hill" training intervals. Obviously you must use them on the weekend or whenever their use is minimal. Great option for those who do not have hills to train on.
Slapshot

we donīt have much better choice around our area, moved to Stortford last december, but aourd Chrishill and Royston etc... there are very lovely steep hills so I do my rides around that area most of the time.

Also I do come to work twice a week, 32 miles each week, so it keep me toned for the long rides in the weekends.

Alan, the bit about the food and water is very very important, the best cycling advice that anyone has ever given me is: Drink before you are thirsty, and eat before you are hungry, otherwise it will be too late
bbnaz

and DON'T push too big of a gear..............
alanmcn1

You guys should be pros, how the hell can you cycle so long, and take on such big rides. Much respect to you!!!!!!! My ride from the gites I am in to the top is roughly 50K

Cheers for the advice, it's really appreciated. I can't wait to pretend am Robert Millar, even if I get there 2 hours after he would, and with a few more stops.
Bartali

Good on you Alan. There's still a lot of climbing in that 50k - chapeau!
Slapshot

it doesnīt matter how long, is how much you enjoy it! Quality over quantity!
alanmcn1

And cheers for the granny gear tip. Always feel like a skinny runt child asking about triple chain rings, but am not going near france without one!
Bartali

You won't feel like a 'runt child' when you are spinning past all the macho 'i've been up ere on the big ring' boys with there locked out legs zig zagging all over the climb! te he!
naspa

No real time this year, but I'll spend some time ambling around the Apuseni Mountains avoiding the pyscho sheepdogs.
bianchigirl

tootling along the seafront in be meil/fouesnant by the beautiful white sand beaches...
tourmalet

just back from a week in the Pyrenees - first cycling trip since having the nipper 5 months ago. Having missed a season's traingin and riding last year through being pregnant I was a bit out of form, but got in some cols - very SLOWLY.

Also managed to see a stage of the Espoir race 'le Ronde de l"isard' with a summit finish at Guzet Neige.

Could barely fit the little one in the car with the bike though.
bianchigirl

After having Tom, I became the classic 'get me a large car NOW' mother and traded in a perfectly decent, economical little Volvo for a Honda CRV with loads of boot space for the kid and all his gear...
tourmalet

this was a little peugeot hire car. would be fine if we just got a bike rack!

he seemed to take it quite well though! perhaps spending all that time close up to a bottom bracket he'll grow up to be a bike mechanic - that'd be handy i'm useless with an allen key



i'm training him up to be a little DS - driving round behind his mum offering me energy bars and a tow up any steep bits. just need to wait until he can reach the pedals.

bianchigirl

cute kid Very Happy how old is he?
tourmalet

Alex is nearly 5 months now. I'm training him as a future tour winner - we've weaned him onto bananas.
tourmalet

alanmcn1 wrote:
And cheers for the granny gear tip. Always feel like a skinny runt child asking about triple chain rings, but am not going near france without one!


No shame in having a triple - I ALWAYS have one for mountains and I've beaten plenty of people without them up hills as they zigzag in pain.

Alan - I would set off really early for the Ventoux if it's summer as it's really exposed after chalet reynard so it could be very hot. Grit your teeth and play 'i-spy' with other riders on your way up. that's how i got over my first 2000m col (Port de Pailheres). takes your mind off the pain. Hope you enjoy! There's a cafe on the top so have a beer to celebrate.
CapeRoadie

naspa wrote:
No real time this year, but I'll spend some time ambling around the Apuseni Mountains avoiding the pyscho sheepdogs.


Looks like a beautiful place:



I have heard Transylvania is beautiful.

Here's where I ride:



Here's where I live:

bianchigirl

doc, so quintissentially New England - and so beautiful - love it there and have many happy memories. Looking forward to taking Tom to meet the NYC godparents and spending some time on the Cape and in Northampton, my old stomping ground.

Have come over all nostalgic now...

Naspa, one day I will make it to Hungary and neighbouring parts as have this hankering to visit the 'New' Europe Wink

tourmalet, Tom is largely fuelled by bananas, kiwis, dried apricots, broccoli, lentils and smoked fish...Very Happy
CapeRoadie

bianchigirl wrote:
doc, so quintissentially New England - and so beautiful - love it there and have many happy memories. Looking forward to taking Tom to meet the NYC godparents and spending some time on the Cape and in Northampton, my old stomping ground.

Have come over all nostalgic now...

Naspa, one day I will make it to Hungary and neighbouring parts as have this hankering to visit the 'New' Europe Wink

tourmalet, Tom is largely fuelled by bananas, kiwis, dried apricots, broccoli, lentils and smoked fish...Very Happy


You must come to visit us here! BB will vouch for my sincerity. We are a child-friendly family as well.

And, btw, since you know about bananas, kiwis, dried apricots, broccoli, lentils and smoked fish, I think we'll need you at l'Etape next year!
bianchigirl

we'd love to - I'm definitely planning a nostalgia trip to my old stamping grounds (UMass Amherst 1983 - Amherst then Northampton then Boston then NYC)
Bartali

tourmalet wrote:


Hey ... that little guy is too young to drive!

Seriously - good on you for getting back on the bike ...
crash48

Just got back from Provence where I did the Mt ventoux sportif up the Malaucence route of the climb. 150 kms and 3200 meters of climbing in all. Sun, mist, thunder and pissing rain all in one race.

Also did two 80 km races with a local cycling club from Bedoin, which was cool actually racing up big mountains attacking and pretending your better then you are.

All very cool.
sheeponabike

Got any pics crash?
headwind

bravo crash. welcome back. hw
crash48

Na

Well not of any of the racing or riding.

I guess there will be a few on the Sportif website in the future as there was people taking pics everywhere-more to the point where you were in the most pain.

Perfect weather on the days leading up to the racing then come saturday it was crap.
crash48

cheers HW.

Did not want to leave.
bianchigirl

sounds fantastic - bar the weather - but it's good to have you back. Are you doing the etape this year?
crash48

No.

Maybe next year. I have a another 2 French sportifs that I am doing however. la 3 ballons and la auvergnate. As well as going to the tour.

So lots to look forward too, and should have some great from after last week-well lets hope.
Bartali

Welcome back Crash. 150km up and down the Ventoux sounds awesome!

I have freinds who did it last year and saidthe wind at the top ws the worst bit.
crash48

The wind is something else at times. It makes coming down interesting when it hits you from side on.

You could only just see with 2kms to go. I only had a gillet so i was bloody cold coming down. Rain did not help near the end.

You could afford to go real hard at the start and just hide from the wind in the big fast groups and get draged along without the HR going through the roof.

Its the shitty section after you have come down where your legs are not working so well and the wind hits that was a problem-just follow one of those hard French farm boys and hope he does not ask for you to come through.
kellyrocheearly

Well done Crash, sounds like a great experience!
bianchigirl

Not bullshitting or anything, but reading about your experiences last week Crash and Bartali's training diary and thoughts about the Etape is a great insight into what it must be like for some riders being in the peloton - thanks so much to both of you for that
Slapshot

here is something to have on mind for next year, I am def. doing it, is in Spain


http://www.iratixtrem.com/perfil.htm

you can see the mountains profiles one by one here

http://www.iratixtrem.com/larraupuerto.htm
berck

That's a nasty little climb at the end Wink
bbnaz

good onya crash.
CapeRoadie

crash48 wrote:
Just got back from Provence where I did the Mt ventoux sportif up the Malaucence route of the climb. 150 kms and 3200 meters of climbing in all. Sun, mist, thunder and pissing rain all in one race.

Also did two 80 km races with a local cycling club from Bedoin, which was cool actually racing up big mountains attacking and pretending your better then you are.

All very cool.


Excellent! Welcome back! l'Etape next year, then? hw, me, you, Bartali, and I'm forgetting someone...berk or berg or both? ANyway, we could have a team and support each other... with the new justcycling jerseys and bg handing out the fruit salad...bb will be running alongside us with Didi's pitchfork for extra "encouragement"... Laughing
headwind

oh cape, you big dreamer you!!!!!!
earth_dweller

hey I'll help BB with the pitchfork, it will be my pleasure.
crash48

I would be up for that, provided I get veto power over our jerseys!

I have never done etape before, and would love to do one.
berck

What's the general cost of etape?
Slapshot

My guess is that it wonīt be cheap, around 600 quid, that including flights from the UK, etc... but bartali is the expert!
Bartali

Yeah that's about right. Not cheap, but hopefully worth it. Cheaper to do without aholiday company, but logistics are difficult and have to get entry direct from France.
Slapshot

http://www.sportingtours.co.uk/index.html?letour/etape.html~main
berck

Thanks for the link. Looks like you have to plan well in advance. They require the medical certificate by January 15th. I have a friend that I believe did this a couple of years ago. I'll talk with him about it.
Slapshot

I think the pic the stage a week or two after the presentation of the TdF, which is at the beginning of November I think
bianchigirl

but we do have people on the spot, don't we - sheep and LR and I have friends out there who I'm sure would lend a hand. Anyways, planning stuff in France is what I do so anything I can do to help, I will. You need the entry forms from Velo don't you?
Bartali

Yeap - You can get the entry forms from the web - difficulty is with accomodation and logistics of getting back to the accomodation after the ride - assuming that your hotel is at the start.

Should be good fun!
Bartali

bergaretxebe wrote:
http://www.sportingtours.co.uk/index.html?letour/etape.html~main


I'm going with these guys ...

http://www.frenchcyclingholidays.com/sport/etape/index.html
crash48

Then we need a big van for the bikes to get them back to the hotel-or better still apartment where we are all staying.

I will also need a chopper to get off the mounain top Razz
Bartali

crash48 wrote:
I will also need a chopper to get off the mounain top Razz


That's the easy bit. Getting to the mountain top is where we'll need a chopper! Wink
crash48

You wait until you have to come down off a mountain top every other rider is coming down or is still coming up.

Had to do that at the tour some time back on Plateu de Belle and all the fans were coming down while small groups of actual tour riders were still coming up. The poor sods had to fend for themselves.
Bartali

crash48 wrote:
You wait until you have to come down off a mountain top every other rider is coming down or is still coming up.

Had to do that at the tour some time back on Plateu de Belle and all the fans were coming down while small groups of actual tour riders were still coming up. The poor sods had to fend for themselves.


Good point. Also, I think it was HW who said, beware the 'numb nuts' whio can't ride a bike!
Bartali

berck wrote:
Thanks for the link. Looks like you have to plan well in advance. They require the medical certificate by January 15th. I have a friend that I believe did this a couple of years ago. I'll talk with him about it.


You don't need amedical certificate if you have a racing licence. In the UK, you can get a racing licence without a medical simply by paying over your hard earned cash to British Cycling.
berck

Bartali wrote:

You don't need amedical certificate if you have a racing licence. In the UK, you can get a racing licence without a medical simply by paying over your hard earned cash to British Cycling.


Thanks Bartali, thats good to know. I don't have a racing license, but my friend who did this a couple of years ago did and does.
tourmalet

bergaretxebe wrote:
here is something to have on mind for next year, I am def. doing it, is in Spain


http://www.iratixtrem.com/perfil.htm

you can see the mountains profiles one by one here

http://www.iratixtrem.com/larraupuerto.htm


A little bit's in France isn't it? I did the Co de Bagargi part a couple of years ago (I think in the opposite direction) and it was REALLY hard. Watch out for suicidal chickens round those parts - I nearly got wiped out by poultry on a descent.
Bartali

That lst ones a monster
Slapshot

they are going up Larrau at this years TdF!
headwind

Ive been hiot with the shit news of my Austria trip being cancelled. Soooo, Ive been rebooked, and thankfully with enough wiggle room, to change my trip from Austria to the Basque Country.

Im excited, but really wanted to go to Austria. Sicne we have such a strong contingent here knowing the pyrennees and Basque country so well, Im hoping to to get some info on things. Heres a link to the trip.

http://www.veloclassic.com/Pays-Basque-2007/index.html

I dont mean to sound too down, and having a go at the Jaizkabel and Bargargui will certainly be wonderful...bit im a tad bummed.

Bergar get me cranked for this!!!!

hw
Slapshot

lucky you!!! at least you are going to eat very well!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

where are you going exactly???
crash48

The food HW will be out of this world.

Basque cooking is as good any anywhere around.

A few bloody mountains as well.
headwind

bergaretxebe wrote:
lucky you!!! at least you are going to eat very well!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

where are you going exactly???


itinerary

Day 1, July 20: Arrival. Pick up at Biarritz Airport and transfer to Bidarray.
Loop ride to the Basque village of Hasparren. 25 miles
Overnight: Bidarray
Day 2, July 21: Ride through the Basse Navarre hills. 59 miles
Overnight: St. Jean-Pied-de-Port
Day 3, July 22: Loop ride over the plush green hills to the Col Bagargui. 65 miles
Overnight: St. Jean-Pied-de-Port
Day 4, July 23: Climb the Puerto de Ibaņeta into Spain. 54 miles
Overnight: Pamplona
Day 5, July 24: A recovery day with a short loop ride. 30 miles
Overnight: Pamplona
Day 6, July 25: Ride to the Bay of Biscay and the Monte Jaizkibel. 78 miles
Overnight: Hondarribia
Day 7, July 26: Ride over the Col de St. Ignace before finishing along the famed Côte Basque. 53 miles
Overnight: Hondarribia
Day 8, July 27: A classic ride inland into the lower Pyrenees. 49 miles
Overnight: Ainhoa
Day 9, July 28: Climb the Puerto de Oxtondo and the Col d'Ispeguy in a final epic ride back to Bidarray. 50 miles
Overnight: Bidarray
Day 10, July 29: Departure. Transportation provided to Biarritz Airport.
Slapshot

go to this web site http://www.altimetrias.net/ and at the end there are 3 searching boxes, 1st for Spain, 2nd France, 3rd rest of the world, tipe the name of the mountain either in the spain box(if is in the basque country) or in the france one(if is in france) and you will see the profiles, somehow I canīt copy the links

But I can tell you that Bagargi (without the u), Ibaņeta are something else....

If you have the chance do not miss the San Sebastianīs old part (parte vieja) and fill your stomach with amazing pintxos (tapas)
Bartali

Good for you HW - looks like a great holiday!

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