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VO2Max Test

Has any of ever done a VO2 max test????
Bartali

No - how do you do it?
Arrive Alive

Re: VO2Max Test

bergaretxebe wrote:
Has any of ever done a VO2 max test????


Way back in the mid-eighties, when I was representing my country at indoor hockey, I underwent a fitness assessment where they measured the ability of my body to use oxygen per kilogram of my body weight. At the end of the test they came up with a number (in the low to mid 70s if I recall correctly). On this scale elite endurance athletes (Olympic nordic skiers being the example quoted) would achieve values in the low 90s.

Is this VO2max?

Anyway, it involved me running on a treadmill, teeth clamped round a mouthpiece, and breathing through a flexible pipe connected to a device which could measure how much air I was inhaling and analysing the composition of the gases I exhaled (a nose clip ensuring that I couldn't "cheat").

They also took small blood samples before and after this, but I don't know what these were used for (perhaps checking to see if I was using "unauthorised" cold remedies?)

Over the course of (I don't know how long) both the speed and incline of the treadmill were increased steadily until I couldn't go on any further - or at least until the operators thought I couldn't go on any further (they actually hit the "stop" button before I was completely knackered Embarassed ).

I'd imagine a similar thing could be done using a stationary bike, and I'm sure I've seen one of the local technical colleges (oops, sorry, I mean "new" universities) offer such a measurement on one of my local cycling club web sites...
chasm

I'm sure physical measurement labs have all sorts of high-tech equipment to measure VO2 max but there are simple ways of getting a reasonably accurate result. Here's the one I've used:

http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/stepvo2max.htm

As you'll see, it is easy to organise. My own, using this technique, is about 43ml/kg/min: not much to brag about for you young people, but in the "excellent" category for one of my advanced years, I'm glad to say. If I lost the 5 kilos that would get me down to my old fighting weight it would move up into the "superior" category. I must get around to doing that. LOL.

Arrive Alive, a VO2 max in the 70s is an excellent result for a serious cyclist. Anyone in the 90s is superman, as I understand it. I've seen Lance Armstrong's VO2 max quoted in newspaper articles as 83.
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I am doing the test at the University of Essex on the 15th of June, I will tell you how I do get on, and how rubbish my fitness level is!!!

here is the link if anyone else is interested
http://www.essex.ac.uk/hpu/
CapeRoadie

bergaretxebe wrote:
I am doing the test at the University of Essex on the 15th of June, I will tell you how I do get on, and how rubbish my fitness level is!!!

here is the link if anyone else is interested
http://www.essex.ac.uk/hpu/


I am. Thanks, berg.
thunderthighs

max vo 2 says nothing aboutthe athlete, its like doing a dyno test on an engine, says nothing of how it will prform under real stress, violant acceleration is the real test..french start is a killer, try that !!!!!!

ciao
Morstar

Did the VO2 max test on the bike many years ago whilst at college. Scored around 55 which was deemed pretty good. Obviously reading about cyclists and Nordic skiers in the 80's obviously puts that into perspective.

Interestingly enough on the bike I actually experienced localised fatigue somewhere around 14-15 mins. Physically I was able to go on but the increased resistance loaded on the bike meant I dropped below the required 60 rpm. As with any form of testing there is benefit in understanding and practicing in test conditions. In theory with a bit of practice of the testing process I should have been able to perform better. (consider it like riding a route you are familiar with. knowing when to kick and when to roll).

For anybody keen to test their VO2 max the Mult Stage Fitness (or Bleep) test is considerably more accessible to most and accepted as accurate to within around 10% I believe.

http://www.overdrivefitness.com/i...?gclid=CNyLyorcsYwCFR6ZEAod2TsWJw

Its quite correct however that VO2 max is only one component of fitness. It's also largely genetically determined so your scope to improve it is limited.
thunderthighs

55 suks...i did mine my last year as a senoir 1 and got 79... but lactate drop was
alot.. hence iam a sprinter..ciao
Morstar

thunderthighs wrote:
55 suks...


Cheers for the ringing endorsement! Crying or Very sad

Under no illusions it is far from elite! It is however considered to be a reasonable level of fitness which is pretty damn square how I would categorise myself.
crash48

Don't be too concerned about that morstar...

Vo2 max is quite hard to improve but as you said it is one measure of many.
Bartali

79 Sucks ... I did mine and got 1000!

God ... some people!
Slapshot

yeah, do not worry, I am having my test on the 15thso I will cheer you up with my -100 score!
Morstar

Cheers for the support guys.

BTW TT how big is your dad???????

Good luck with the test Berg'. If you can somehow have a dummy run at the testing procedure beforehand that will give you the maximum opportunity to achieve your full potential. As I said in my original post I do believe I could have achieved slightly higher with prior experience of the test.

Interestingly, having looked at one of the links in earlier posts 55 was "superior" at the age when I took the test so that made me quite happy. I then proceeded to read that for a cyclist the target score should be around 75. ooops. Apparently I should take up rugby! Now that really does sound like an insane idea!

Would my distinct lack of hand-eye co-ordination matter????????
crash48

Well it's not stoping the current England team Smile
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
79 Sucks ... I did mine and got 1000!

God ... some people!


Is that all, Bartali? I'll be drafting you, then... Laughing

TT is brash, but he is usually telling the truth. He has very little tact. But we like him for the great pearls of wisdom he offers.
Bartali

Only on a bad day crash Wink
thunderthighs

greg lemond... is 93.... now thats Balls..

ciao
CapeRoadie

thunderthighs wrote:
greg lemond... is 93.... now thats Balls..

ciao


Even Armstrong's wasn't that high. His was 85. Still pretty damned good.
HuwB

CapeRoadie wrote:
thunderthighs wrote:
greg lemond... is 93.... now thats Balls..
ciao
Even Armstrong's wasn't that high. His was 85. Still pretty damned good.


Umm, Yes, one thing that didn't improve after his cancer. It was recorded as constant, between 1993-99, at 82, not 85. That was a figure Lance and his legal team came up with, to "bump" his performance, while in dispute with Lemond. No evidence to support it, unlike, the 82 rating.Wink
Not all that special for a top cyclist, but very important in producing "exceptional" results. Rolling Eyes
chasm

bergaretxebe wrote:
yeah, do not worry, I am having my test on the 15thso I will cheer you up with my -100 score!


Good luck with the test tomorrow, berg.
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well, I hace decided that, as the weather in the UK is shit, and it doesnīt look like is going to improve, for 35 quid return to fly to Bilbao tomorrow morning and stay there until sunday night, and "ultimate" my training around the lovely basque mountains for my next saturday spotif.

But I will do the test in july!
Bartali

Have a good break you lucky sod!
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I will keep you posted with my routes!!!!

I will do Urkiola again, Dima, and Oiz

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