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Tour de Suisse: June 11th - June 19th 2016

I'll kick this off with a reminder that the FP thread is at

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Biosphere

Cancellara pulled a nice win out of the bag today when it seemed like the weather had conspired against him. Surprising how localised rain can be.
HuwB

Watched the highlights after the Dauphine.
Cancellara and the other late offs had some of the worst conditions.
Nasty spill for Dowsett.
Looks a much more mountainous course this year.
Other than the hosts, tv coverage is a bit hit and miss, but it is there in one form or another.
Nolte

Today was dull, but also my sky went off at 15km to go with a downpour, it finally returned with 5km to go.

My sky box though is a wee bit old
mazda

After yesterdays late excitement, today sees Dillier chipping away at the leaders jersey.
6 sprint seconds gained and part of the breakway @ 80 seconds with 25km to go.
mazda

Gap tumbling down.
Albasini attacks, and Hayman waits for him.
mazda

One word - Sagan.
mazda

Who says that bonus seconds don't make for an interesting race.
mr shifter

I'm warming to this World Champion who puts to bed the Myth about wearing the WC Jersey.
That was an outstanding solo ride he made today with catching the breakaway and then winning the stage in appalling conditions.  cheers
Biosphere

Enjoyed ourselves (had a visitor from UK) even in the rain yesterday. Was on the railings for the podium presentation when some bloke elbowed his way in beside me into a gap that wasn't there. Turned out it was Sagan's dad Smile It's obviously a genetic skill! Tinkov turned up as well giving Sagan's dad a big bear hug  - and probably trying to lift his wallet and retrieve a million or two.

Went to the pub afterwards to watch some of the Irish game whilst waiting for the other halves to arrive for dinner and the devil turned up in his costume to have a pint. I knew we were drinking in a bit of a sleazy place but you don't expect Satan to turn up for a post work pint Wink
mazda

When Sagan attacked on the final climb (while leading from the front, not a jump from behind) I loved the combination of awe / incredulity in the commentators voice "He's just ridden away from everyone" (possibly paraphrasing).
Matthews, right on his wheel couldn't keep up, and certainly couldn't keep up going downhill either.
mazda

Biosphere wrote:
Enjoyed ourselves (had a visitor from UK) even in the rain yesterday. Was on the railings for the podium presentation when some bloke elbowed his way in beside me into a gap that wasn't there. Turned out it was Sagan's dad Smile It's obviously a genetic skill! Tinkov turned up as well giving Sagan's dad a big bear hug  - and probably trying to lift his wallet and retrieve a million or two.

Went to the pub afterwards to watch some of the Irish game whilst waiting for the other halves to arrive for dinner and the devil turned up in his costume to have a pint. I knew we were drinking in a bit of a sleazy place but you don't expect Satan to turn up for a post work pint Wink


Don't suppose Sepp Blatter turned up as well ?

Was his dad really chuffed, or was it just business as usual ?
His brother had also helped get Sagan into position to do what he did.
gerry12ie

Sagan is a monster really.  Just a monster.
mazda

Today looks like a nailed on sprint day.
Matt Brammeier is in a break of 4 riders.
mazda

Stage is finishing in Champagne, the Swiss town, not the French region (which isn't too far away, is it ?)
Not sure what they would call their product if they produced a sparkling wine.
mazda

Gap just above a minute.
A couple of small lumps before the larger climb in 30 km or so.
HuwB

Coverage went on forever, today. Nearly 90kms left when SRF went live.
Etix had Gaviria (2nd) throw a nice little inside line block, on the final bend, which allowed Max Richeze to waltz away for the win. Sagan stuck in third and Danny van Poppel lucky to be in one piece. Locked up on Sagan's rear and nearly went over the bars.

The rest, including Matthews (35th) nowhere.

Three successive mountaintop finishes next up.
HuwB

Nice shot of DvP's nose stand:

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Nolte

Tuesdays stage was very good. I guess Sagan's thinking was the peloton leaving him do all the work to bring back dillier and albasini so he might as well attack. Paid off too

I think part of the issue today was most of it was into a headwind so that didn't. I did think about richeze for today but oh well

Well held by van poppel
HuwB

Allow the race organisers to put in a crazy curve, 100 metres from the finish, then relegate the guy who nearly crashes, for dangerous riding.
Poor DvP.
UCI officials live in a parallel universe.
Biosphere

I found that crazy. He was racing the course he was given.

Rainy and cold on the Furka and Gotthard today. Cari is Rhone valley so will be warmer.
mazda

Isn't Cari above the Ticino ?
Biosphere

You're quite right. I squinted at the route map on phone and somehow got it into my head that Cari-Glis was one of the end points rather than Brig-Glis so I ended up transposing things and running route in reverse Embarassed

I really shouldn't have as I've been through Brig often enough on trains.  Embarassed  Embarassed
HuwB

Sagan had a crash chasing the 23 man breakaway. He's back in the bunch
mazda

I don't think the break will be allowed to get too far, not with Dillier, Wellens and Matthews in it.
HuwB

A bit of a meh stage and finish.
Atapuma just holds on from the break, after Barguil went after him from the peloton. Latour got 3rd and took the overall lead by countaback on the ITT.
GC:
Latour
Kelderman +0
Thomas +5
Barguil +16
Van Garderen +18

A number of GC hopefuls were under par today, while Andrew Talansky bucked the trend, surprisingly finishing alongside Geraint Thomas.
HuwB

Terribly wet weather forecast for today and then they have this to contend with at the finish.

Fontfroide

Pleased that the young Frenchman gets to wear the jersey for a day.  No one yet knows if he is the real deal, but the entire population of France hopes so, at least the sponsors do.   Wink
mazda

CPA taking action regarding the "dangerous bend" on Tuesday.
Quote:

Adam Hansen (Lotto Soudal) led a project for the CPA (Association of Pro Cyclists) and sent a questionnaire to all participants at the Tour de Suisse, concerning safety issues – specifically, the finish of Tuesday’s stage. They got
a great response, and 91% said that the finish was much too dangerous
.
mazda

Gilbert and Van Der Sande have what could be 5' on the peloton, with plenty of other breakwayees in between.
There is a fair distance of lumpy roads to go before the final steep climb.
HuwB

Is Gorka Izagirre in the process of mugging the GC?
mazda

Dunno.
My reckoning has someone called Casulleras in the virtual lead.
Of course the reported gaps could be way out.
mazda

Izagirre at 4' and peloton at 7'.
So Izagirre is the VL with Casulleras (Jorgi Simon) in second.
Is the peloton really that far back, doing nothing ?
What are AG2R up to ?
HuwB

Weening wins the stage from of all people, Max Richeze.
What a TdS that guy is having.
Thomas must have heard the football result, the way he went backwards towards the end.

GC:
Wilco
Barguil @ 16"
Talansky @ 19"
I Izagirre @ 34"
M Lopez @ 39"
mazda

That's the other Izagirre is it not ?
So (some of) the peloton caught the Movistar duo.

Richeze also nabbed 20 points for the Points jersey with his exploits today.
Will he be the next Valverde or Kwiatkowski ?
HuwB

mazda wrote:
That's the other Izagirre is it not ?
So (some of) the peloton caught the Movistar duo.



Nope.
Ion overtook Gorka.
Boogerd_Fan

Thomas a case of multiple climbs on 1 day taking effect?? this is hardly an A* lineup and he still cant keep up. Surprising.
HuwB

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Thomas a case of multiple climbs on 1 day taking effect?? this is hardly an A* lineup and he still cant keep up. Surprising.


It does seem as if the various forum have noted his 50 second loss today and are taking the opportunity to put the boot in.
Ironically, the only guy taking worse stick is Kelderman from the CN crowd.
Juvenile calls of Keldercoward etc. The Dutch are especially unhappy over his lack of panache.

Meanwhile, the biggest flop of the day; Teejay van Garderen, escaped virtually unscathed from the attack of the armchair warriors.
Biosphere

That was a guilty pleasure today. Horrible conditions. I wouldn't give anyone any stick given the day that was in it and with the Rettenbach coming up tomorrow. I had seen the foul weather forecast this morning, but after yesterday's geographical and meteorological blunders I was keeping my mouth shut.

I was surprised by van Garderen. I thought he looked fairly strong yesterday and was riding within himself as Atapuma was up the road. Another blunder from me Rolling Eyes

Was also surprised to see Canondale's man in the break didn't drop back towards the end for Talansky and was even more surprised to see Gilbert freewheeling back to the bus past the uphill Atapuma / van Garderen tandem. Is a minor placing really worth more than dropping back to help out?

mazda wrote:
Was his dad really chuffed, or was it just business as usual ?


Been meaning to answer this when I posted some photos, but it's been end of year school plays last night and tonight and cycling photos haven't even made it out of camera yet (not that they are up to much anyway). Anyway, Sagan senior was dead chuffed and at first I just assumed the entourage were just your typical fan club, but when I talked with one of them after Tinkov turned up I found out who they were Smile
mazda

Just realised this is the same finish as last year's "slow motion" climb.
mazda

Just realised this is the same finish as last year's "slow motion" climb that was kind of enjoyable for some of us.
HuwB

mazda wrote:
Just realised this is the same finish as last year's "slow motion" climb that was kind of enjoyable for some of us.


45 minutes to cover it's 12 km.

At least the Sun has come out.

Latour and Gatto have abandoned.
The break still has around 9 minutes, with about 60kms or so to go.
Fontfroide

Weather looks horrible at the top.  But the racing is that kind of slow decay and tragic loss of rider after rider.  Good to watch.  I assume there will be an attack at about 2k or so.

Mind you we will probably lose the transmission shortly.
mazda

Kiriyenka driving and dropping.
Raining, possibly turning to snow higher up.
mazda

Van Garderen has attacked, Barguil goes after him.
Fontfroide

Must say I like this stage.  Slow enough to watch what happens.  I think I must have been one who liked it before, I forgot, thanks for the reminder Mazda.
Fontfroide

Wonder what the temperature is.  Never have ridden that high in my life.
mazda

Van Garderen wins back some pride, Lopez nicks second, Barguil into yellow.
HuwB

mazda wrote:
Van Garderen wins back some pride, Lopez nicks second, Barguil into yellow.


TJ wins the battle of the horrible grind.
Kelderman's turn to have a stinker of an off day.
Talansky seems reborn.
The Colombians enjoy the altitude.
Barguil wins the dubious honour of wearing this race's leaders jersey.
Geraint confirms he is good, but not good enough.
Seems destined for man 2 in the train.
mr shifter

mazda wrote:
Just realised this is the same finish as last year's "slow motion" climb that was kind of enjoyable for some of us.
Thanks but it was sunny last year.

However you reminded me about the climb and so I waited for the scenery and then what the hell my F.Pick took off on an attack and to my cheers he won.
Now who would have believed it.

Be Lucky
mr shifter

HuwB wrote:

Geraint confirms he is good, but not good enough.
Seems destined for man 2 in the train.

Sorry Huw but Vasil Kiryienka might be man 2, after that performance.
HuwB

mr shifter wrote:
HuwB wrote:

Geraint confirms he is good, but not good enough.
Seems destined for man 2 in the train.

Sorry Huw but Vasil Kiryienka might be man 2, after that performance.


You know that they are aiming to peak later than usual, right?
He, TJVG and Wilco Kelderman are sitting a few seconds apart in 7-9th GC spots.
Rui Costa is 20 seconds back in 10th.
Are they facing the Tour boot?
GC leader? Certainly not, but 2nd or 3rd to last in the train, definitely.

It's just wishful to think otherwise.
mr shifter

HuwB wrote:
mr shifter wrote:
HuwB wrote:

Geraint confirms he is good, but not good enough.
Seems destined for man 2 in the train.

Sorry Huw but Vasil Kiryienka might be man 2, after that performance.
 Are they facing the Tour boot?
GC leader? Certainly not, but 2nd or 3rd to last in the train, definitely.

It's just wishful to think otherwise.
I didn't say tour boot.
my comment was about today's form and compared with Vasil Kiryienka's.
I expect both riders to be stringing the peloton out in 2 and half weeks time.
Nolte

HuwB wrote:
mr shifter wrote:
HuwB wrote:

Geraint confirms he is good, but not good enough.
Seems destined for man 2 in the train.

Sorry Huw but Vasil Kiryienka might be man 2, after that performance.


You know that they are aiming to peak later than usual, right?
He, TJVG and Wilco Kelderman are sitting a few seconds apart in 7-9th GC spots.
Rui Costa is 20 seconds back in 10th.
Are they facing the Tour boot?
GC leader? Certainly not, but 2nd or 3rd to last in the train, definitely.

It's just wishful to think otherwise.


also seems the first week of the race isn't the classicesque first week of recent years so there isn't t the same impetus as the last two years.

i note from the results, peter sagan finished last twoday, even lost a minute to his sibling. is he ill or something?

(and in slovenia, cavendish has withdrawn from it due to illness on the second stage)
HuwB

ITT
1) Izagirre
2) Lopez
3) Cancellara.

Lopez the new race leader as Barguil turns in his stinker for the week.
The leader's jersey curse continues
Biosphere

I am quite liking this new leader every day lark. Lopez surprised me, whilst Izagirre repeated what he did in Romandie. GC very open for tomorrow. Izagirre predicts a war Smile
HuwB

The final 117km, 2 col stage is now to be just 57kms long with only the final climb to be undertaken, due to yet more awful, early Summer weather (snow) in Central Europe.
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
The final 117km, 2 col stage is now to be just 57kms long with only the final climb to be undertaken, due to yet more awful, early Summer weather (snow) in Central Europe.


Bummer. TV was scheduled come on air at 15:45 so maybe we get the whole stage now Rolling Eyes

New local start time 4pm

http://www.tourdesuisse.ch/en/new...ws/final-stage-will-be-shortened/
HuwB

Biosphere wrote:
HuwB wrote:
The final 117km, 2 col stage is now to be just 57kms long with only the final climb to be undertaken, due to yet more awful, early Summer weather (snow) in Central Europe.


Bummer. TV was scheduled come on air at 15:45 so maybe we get the whole stage now Rolling Eyes

New local start time 4pm

http://www.tourdesuisse.ch/en/new...ws/final-stage-will-be-shortened/


I can fill in the gap with 88kms live of the Route du Sud. Smile
Biosphere

Oh well late start means I can post these up. Far too many I know, but it's my total annual contribution as despite Le Tour spending 3 days in the city I work in (Bern) this year,  I will be on holiday's. In France Rolling Eyes

The Stork's Nest Tower with the Stork in residence. A Rheinfelden landmark.

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The weather was actually pleasant enough on the first passage of the finish line and I was thinking not a bad spot at all for taking photos

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In between laps there was some entertainment including a junior race which was completely unfair as the winner was about 2 years older than anyone else and was the only person on a real bike.

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Rain came on the second passage of the finish line but I was still thinking not a bad little spot to take photos.

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Devolder looked like he'd rather be doing something else than making his way back to the bunch after fetching his master's jacket.

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And on the third passage of the finish line, the grand little spot for photos was ruined by photographers turning up to take photos Rolling Eyes

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Sagan's stage winner trophy puzzled me at first, but I've got somewhere new to try out for a hill climb.

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Interesting to different sponsor's attitudes to women as podium accessories - main sponsor goes all out with former Miss Switzerlands, whilst Tolhoek is greeted by a mountain goat and Dilier gets a salad dressing and bowl from Bruno

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Was separated from my wider angle lens so missed Tinkov and Sagan's dad mucking around, but then I remembered I had my phone in my pocket.

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The devil clocks off

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Next morning and cyclists are dodging pedestrians, circulating around and generally looking a bit lost (to the extent that one of the CCC riders even asked me where they were supposed to sign on)

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As has been discussed a lot this year, there are a lot of motorbikes at bike races

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And a lot of cars driven by names from the past. I don't think I'd trust him to drive me for my weekly shopping let alone around a bike race though Wink

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Nothing beats the excitement of waiting for a bike race to start

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And the devil is back on duty and keeping up with modern soul harvesting technologies

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The Italians seem to favour sawn off drinks bottles for their rain jackets instead of ruining the svelte lines of their outfits. Also did a did a bike inspection walkabout earlier and noticed that Astana were riding Continentals like pretty much everyone else, but they scrubbed the name off the sidewalls.

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Gilbert always looks very relaxed (probably too relaxed from BMC's perspective)

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Not being disrespectful, but the likes of Tolhoek and Kelderman have such dimunitive frames and boyish looks that part of me is wondering if they are skipping school to ride in bike races Wink

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Sagan was looking quite pensive at the start line. With regards to the gold detailing on his helmet - I thought that was traditionally for Olympic Champions? Even his earpice was golden.

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Cancellara was relaxed and joking with the race organiser

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Nearly time to go

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The Mayor makes the American cyclists at home by waving a gun around at City Hall

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No problem to hurtle down a mountain with the equivalent of a few layers of tissue paper as body armour, but you've got to be careful of load bangs

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3 minutes after the race rolled out and it's back to shopping

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Biosphere

Lopez going all out for it on the climb. Building a buffer for the descent or going for the win?
Biosphere

Nice to see Pantano's joy at winning final stage.  Lopez, Izagirre and Bargain make up the podium and Talansky slips to 5th.
Biosphere

Pantano happy to win for his father today and for Matthias Frank being ill at home.  I think I know which one was nearly making him cry with joy Wink

Lopez states his desire to ride the Tour within the next two years. Move over Aru.
HuwB

Colombians all flying high atm.
I would never have picked Pantano to go so well at the start of the week.
Bad weather doesn't appear to effect them in the slightest.
Trust Talansky to go backwards when he had the podium in his sights.
One of a few riders who may have struggled with the short course.
gerry12ie

Nice pics Bio thanks for sharing although I'm away for a few days and only have the phone so can't see them too well. Forgot to FP too...
Fontfroide

Like the pics Bio.  A bit of creativity and atmosphere shows through.  Maybe you even have a decent camera.  But they are intriguing.  Merci.
Nolte

very nice photos, bio. thanks for posting Smile
looking at the picture of tolhoek, he does look very young

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