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Fontfroide

Tour de France

Just heard on the French News that Andy is not riding.  Don't know anything else yet.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/a...orted-to-be-out-of-tour-de-france
HuwB

Yes, this is currently the hot topic. Go away from the internet for an hour and the world has changed.
Now it is possible to crash out of the Tour before the Tour starts.

So, they guy who trains all year and only races the Tour misses his appointment.
Still, he's always got le pub.
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
Go away from the internet for an hour and the world has changed.


And yet not a lot has probably really changed regarding July's outcome.

As I posted on the other thread what odds now a Contador/Schleck  showdown in the Vuelta?
MS

Biosphere wrote:
HuwB wrote:
Go away from the internet for an hour and the world has changed.


And yet not a lot has probably really changed regarding July's outcome.

As I posted on the other thread what odds now a Contador/Schleck  showdown in the Vuelta?


Honestly, who cares? So we can watch Contador work him over again for the third time? Schleck is a joke. It takes something rather extraordinary to make me sympathetic towards Johan Bruyneel, but everything he has said and everything he has stated publicly about this rider has been justified. This rider is unprofessional and, for the life of me, I've never understood this love affair the cycling press has with him.

Some poor, dumb sod is going to take on these two brothers next season. I sure as hell hope it isn't any of the teams I favor. Then again, maybe they'll enter the Giro instead next year and the top three will get busted and Andy will "win" his second GT.
Biosphere

MS wrote:
Honestly, who cares? . . .


Well he seems to exercise you more than most  Laughing
Boogerd_Fan

hmm the only way Scheck, A can now win the 2012 TDF is if the whole of the peloton is disqualified for mass doping offence.


I fear for those MTF's now... who is going to take it up to actually attack there? Assuming Frank is now the RSNT leader, he'll be back to marking wheels... Gesink, JVDB and Sanchez need to take time in the mountains - but will any of them be able to kick on, out of the Sky train? I had expected Schleck to be the catalyst, but with select group able to ride up to him, if that included Wiggins, they'd go again and again...

... now i'm more or less sure, we've got a guaranteed procession around France a la Giro.
MS

Biosphere wrote:
MS wrote:
Honestly, who cares? . . .


Well he seems to exercise you more than most  Laughing


Indeed, but my interest is in having him go away, not in seeing him propped up as a supposed contender, come August/September. This is no different than mine or most of the attitudes of others here towards Mr. Armstrong. He elicited responses from most of us, not because we were eager to see him race again, but for him to just go away.
SlowRower

MS wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
MS wrote:
Honestly, who cares? . . .


Well he seems to exercise you more than most  Laughing


Indeed, but my interest is in having him go away, not in seeing him propped up as a supposed contender, come August/September. This is no different than mine or most of the attitudes of others here towards Mr. Armstrong. He elicited responses from most of us, not because we were eager to see him race again, but for him to just go away.


I'm no fan of Schleck the Younger, largely due to not appearing (to my interpretation) to always fully commit to the task in hand or to improving his TTing.

That said, from what I can gather, he finished the stage where he crashed and rode half the next stage before abandoning, all with a broken vertebrae or pelvis, both of which sound very unpleasant. He must be tougher than we give him credit for!

Either way, I wouldn't want anyone to have to "go away" due to an injury.
Fontfroide

I don't like AS much, but on the other hand, what I would like to see is him well, fettled up, fired up and capable of creating a little uncertainty in the race.  A bit like Galibier.  I am a bit sad he won't be there.  

Still he seems to have some kind of problem with cycling, or cycling for Bruyneel or … maybe he just will have a bad year, all year.  Bring on the Vuelta.
MS

Fontfroide wrote:
I don't like AS much, but on the other hand, what I would like to see is him well, fettled up, fired up and capable of creating a little uncertainty in the race.  A bit like Galibier.  I am a bit sad he won't be there.  

Still he seems to have some kind of problem with cycling, or cycling for Bruyneel or … maybe he just will have a bad year, all year.  Bring on the Vuelta.


And that's why he's unprofessional. I can recall last year it was well known that Thor wanted out of Garmin, but he was a professional, gave his all, and achieved great results. That's what a professional does. Even riders like LeMond or Ullrich who banked everything on the Tour showed up at least ready to contend for the podium year after year.  I'm no fan of Contador, either, but you can see why one is a champion and the other is not. With all the crap he put up with in 09/10 with Armstrong and Bruyneel, he didn't whine, he let his wheels do the talking and when his contract expired, he moved on. He's a professional and that is why every DS will always want him on his team. If I were a DS on a well-funded team, I wouldn't touch Schleck with a ten-foot pole.
Fontfroide

There are times at the beginning of GTs when we bet on a young rider, and we don't know the rules and we don't know who the young riders are.  Not this Tour!

The rule is anyone born after 1-1-87 is young.

The following are young, taken from the short lists for each team in the French Cycling Federation Official Guide.  I won't type the teams, just the names.  But I did notice some teams have as many as four or five young riders on their long list.  Others none or one.

AG2R, Astana, Garmin, Lotto, Saxo, none,
Saur Sojasun, Omega, Movistar,Shack one.  
Sky, Vacansoleil four,
Liquigas, five.

Pinot, A. Roux,Taaramae, Gautier, Malacarne, Delaplace, Degenkolb (not riding for sure), Geniez, Kittel, Teejay, Navardauskas, Talansky, Kristoff, Malori, Ulissi, Izagirre, Sicard, Smukulis, Caruso, Nerz, Oss, Sagan, Viviani, Quintana, Kwiatkowski, Bobridge, Leigh, Meyer, Kruisjwijk, Matthews, Gallopin, Boeckmans, Lighart, Poels, Valls, EBH, Henao, Swfit, Uran.

Please report any mistakes, but I am confident there are no more than one or two.  Not all the guys will ride the actual Tour, of course, but still an impressive crop of riders, even if not all for the GC.
gerry12ie

Does this mean JB's Allstars will now have to call on Horner as replacement?  TBH I always thought Frank had the better racing brain (only in much the same way that Cavendish is a better climber than Kittel, though) of the brothers and it might just focus RSNT.
Nolte

Fontfroide wrote:


The rule is anyone born after 1-1-87 is young.


i've always considered any one born after May 1984 to be young but i don't think that fountain of youth is working the trick i wanted it to. Wink

gerry12ie wrote:
Does this mean JB's Allstars will now have to call on Horner as replacement?  TBH I always thought Frank had the better racing brain (only in much the same way that Cavendish is a better climber than Kittel, though) of the brothers and it might just focus RSNT.


I wonder as he wasn't on the list posted if they can bring him in now.
I recall a problem a couple of years ago in the vuelta where as a rider wasn't even on the preliminary list, he couldn't get into it.

I am dissapointed that there will be no Schleck the Younger in the Tour, he did enliven things last year with his attack on the stage to Galibier
Bartali

I'm afraid I'm very skeptical as to whether he's injured at all.

I pretty much agree with MS on this one though I think the race in June might be duller without him.
smarauder68

I've asked this before somewhere and got no answer....Will there be time bonuses in this year's Tour?  If not, It will be hard to imagine anyone other than Wiggins winning, apart from a mechanical or crash.
HuwB

smarauder68 wrote:
I've asked this before somewhere and got no answer....Will there be time bonuses in this year's Tour?  If not, It will be hard to imagine anyone other than Wiggins winning, apart from a mechanical or crash.


In a word:no.

We have the makings of a half decent conspiracy theory here.
Horner, somewhat mysteriously and with confused reasoning omitted from the Tour squad one day, the next, Andy is injured and unable to ride.

I'm thinking they obviously knew about Schleckette, first, so left Horner on the bench, kept as top mountain support, to ride where he rides best: Spain.

In other words, RSNT have more or less given up on the Tour GC.
Instead, they "beef up"Razz   their efforts to conquer Contador on home soil, in a very mountainous Vuelta.
Bartali

.... and don't get a slap on the wrist from the ASO for fielding a crap team!  I like your thinking Huw.
maffy

whoever said that vuelta was all
-----------------------------------/
is still right, mind. reduced telly circumstances.
Fontfroide

smarauder68 wrote:
I've asked this before somewhere and got no answer....Will there be time bonuses in this year's Tour?  


There are no time bonuses in this Tour, intermediate or at the finish.
Biosphere

MS wrote:
. . .  Even riders like LeMond or Ullrich who banked everything on the Tour showed up at least ready to contend for the podium year after year .  . . . .


Oh come on . . . Turning up ready to contend for the podium is exactly what Schleck has been doing repeatedly.

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
I fear for those MTF's now... who is going to take it up to actually attack there?


Evans?

SR, he rode 1.5 stages after the injury.

Andy Schleck wrote:
I hope to be back to ride the Olympics and then my main goal will be the Vuelta a Espańa


The Vuelta starts 18th August. Doctors say he wont be on the bike for 4-6 weeks. That means he can't re-start training until about two weeks into the Tour. Why's he even talking about Olympics given these circumstances, let alone the course? Will his Vuelta prep be any better than his prep for this Tour had been?
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
We have the makings of a half decent conspiracy theory here.
Horner, somewhat mysteriously and with confused reasoning omitted from the Tour squad one day, the next, . . .


Or given the other news, Horner talked to USADA and is persona non welcome??

I can't seriously see Bruyneel in France in a few weeks time or having much to do with the team from now on. Anderson back in the car?

Awaiting the next Downfall mash up.
Beasley

Regarding the Olympics, well, Luxemburg has 2 entrants into the RR, but only 5 UCI professionals to pick from. There isn't much competition.

Also, with the Tour of Poland being dragged forward, there aren't too many decent races between the middle of July and first week in August to compete. Racing in London at least gives him the opportunity to get some miles in the legs before the big kick-off in Spain.
HuwB

Looks as if Tommy Voeckler is really struggling for the Tour:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/v...-de-france-participation-in-doubt
MAILLOT JAUNE

That'd be a real shame if Voeckler wasn't fit.

On another point, Schleck is already coming up with excuses for a poor Tour performance:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/s...t-captains-role-at-tour-de-france
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
I'm afraid I'm very skeptical as to whether he's injured at all.

I pretty much agree with MS on this one though I think the race in June might be duller without him.


I'm with you on that Bartali.  Radioschleck is falling apart.  I'm looking forward to Tours without clear cut favorites, myself.

HuwB wrote:
Looks as if Tommy Voeckler is really struggling for the Tour:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/v...-de-france-participation-in-doubt


He's so bow-legged his medial menisci might be shot.  Will miss him if he's not there!
HuwB

RSNT falling apart? Maybe changing of heart.....

Cancellara, Gallopin, Horner, Klöden, Monfort, Popovych, F Schleck, Voigt, Zubeldia.

 http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/news/2012-tour-de-france-roster
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
RSNT falling apart? Maybe changing of heart.....

Cancellara, Gallopin, Horner, Klöden, Monfort, Popovych, F Schleck, Voigt, Zubeldia.

 http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/news/2012-tour-de-france-roster


Well he's been a good boy to question the best use of tax payers dollars . . . .
Boogerd_Fan

Rabobank's squad... sadly no room for Kelderman, who would've had a shot at white imo.

Gesink, Mollema, Kruiswijk, Ten Dam, Tankink, Tjallingii, LL Sanchez, Renshaw en Wynants.
Nolte

HuwB wrote:
RSNT falling apart? Maybe changing of heart.....

Cancellara, Gallopin, Horner, Klöden, Monfort, Popovych, F Schleck, Voigt, Zubeldia.

 http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/news/2012-tour-de-france-roster


but the other part

Quote:
Team Directors Alain Gallopin and Dirk Demol will lead the team at the most prestigious bicycle race in the world.


dissapointed there is no Bird Song in it
Boogerd_Fan

I've given up with RSNT for this year... even Frank is now playing down his leadership role on the team, when clearly he is the most experienced (and in form) GC contender they have left.

Kloden could surprise, with the amount of TT km - but can he avoid having an off day, if dealing with the stress of leading the team?
Bartali

I wonder what the odds are on Klodi?  Might be worth an each way bet ...
Fontfroide

Looks like you could get 132 or 100-1 odds.

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/cycling/tour-de-france/winner
Bartali

I'll have a piece of that ... e/w!
HuwB

Katusha:
Dennis Menchov
Giampaolo Caruso
Luca Paolini
Vladimir Gusev
Joan Horrach
Aliaksandr Kuchynski
Yuriy Trofimov
Eduard Vorganov
Oscar Freire

Euskaltel:

Mikel Astarloza
Jorge Azanza
Gorka Izagirre
Egoi Martínez
Rubén Pérez
Samuel Sánchez
Amets Txurruka
Pablo Urtasun
Gorka Verdugo

Argos:

Roy Curvers
Koen de Kort
Johannes Frohlinger
Patrick Gretsch
Yann Huguet
Marcel Kittel
Matthieu Sprick
Albert Timmer
Tom Veelers


BMC RACING TEAM

  BURGHARDT Marcus Germany
  CUMMINGS Steven United Kingdom
  EVANS Cadel Australia
  GILBERT Philippe Belgium
  HINCAPIE George United States
  MOINARD Amaël France
  QUINZIATO Manuel Italy
  SCHÄR Michael Switzerland
  VAN GARDEREN Tejay  USA

Lotto
BAK Lars Ytting Denmark
  DE GREEF Francis Belgium
  GREIPEL André Germany
  HANSEN Adam Australia
  HENDERSON Gregory New Zealand
  ROELANDTS Jurgen Belgium
  SIEBERG Marcel Germany
  VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen Belgium
  VANENDERT Jelle Belgium
Nolte

dissapointed that Geniez missed out on the Dundalk Argos team
and so is he http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/g...o-after-missing-out-on-tour-place
kathy

I'm disappointed that Mikel Nieve isn't in the Euskaltel team
Nolte

maybe a rest after Giro and Suisse for Snowy and then building form for a look at the overall in the Vuelta
Nolte

Omega Pharma-QuickStep:
Sylvain Chavanel
Kevin De Weert
Dries Devenyns
Bert Grabsch
Levi Leipheimer
Tony Martin
Jerome Pineau
Stijn Vandenbergh
Peter Velits.
HuwB

Nolte wrote:
Omega Pharma-QuickStep:
Sylvain Chavanel
Kevin De Weert
Dries Devenyns
Bert Grabsch
Levi Leipheimer
Tony Martin
Jerome Pineau
Stijn Vandenbergh
Peter Velits.


OMG, what a bunch of poseurs. Jerome Pineau! Shocked  Laughing


HuwB

Vacansoleil
Johnny Hoogerland
Lieuwe Westra
Wout Poels
Rob Ruijgh
Kris Boeckmans
Kenny Van Hummel
Gustav Erik Larsson
Marco Marcato
Rafael Valls

Team Sky
B Wiggins
E Boasson Hagen
C Froome
C Knees
R Porte
M Rogers
K Siutsou
M Cavendish
B Eisel

Garmin-Barracuda
T Farrar
C Vande Velde
D Martin
T Danielson
R Hesjedal
R Hunter
D Millar
J Vansummeren
D Zabriskie

Astana
Alexandr Vinokurov (KAZ)
Jani Brajkovič (SLO)
Borut Bozič (SLO)
Dmitry Fofonov (KAZ)
Andriy Grivko (UKR)
Maxim Iglinskiy (KAZ)
Andrey Kashechkin (KAZ)
Fredrik Kessiakoff (SWE)
Robert Kiserlovski (HRV)
Nolte

i like the look of the garmin team Very Happy *fingers crossed*
so who will be the garmin rider that comes this year into the top 10 with out being in it before (the trend has been 08 - vandevelde, 09 - wiggles, 10 - hesjedal, 11 - danielson)
Nolte

Astana

Alexandre Vinokurov
Jani Brajkovic  
Borut Bozic
Dmitry Fofonov
Andriy Grivko
Maxim Iglinskiy
Andrey Kashechkin
Fredrik Kessiakoff
Robert Kiserlovski
HuwB

Team Europcar

Giovanni Bernaudeau (Fra)
Anthony Charteau (Fra)
Sébastien Chavanel (Fra)
Damien Gaudin (Fra)
Cyril Gautier (Fra)
Vincent Jerome (Fra)
Christophe Kern (Fra)
Pierre Rolland (Fra)
Thomas Voeckler (Fra)

Saxo Bank

Juan José Haedo
Jonathan Cantwell  
Nick Nuyens
Chris Anker Sřrensen
Nicki Sřrensen
Michael Mřrkřv
Anders Lund
Karsten Kroon
Sergio Paulinho
Fontfroide

Looks like we will find out the answer to the question, "What can Cav do with a leadout train of two?"  Seems that he might really have Eisel and EBH.  The latter will be let off now and again if the stage suits.  I am sure the others might ride a bit for him on a stage, but not all the time for the first long week.  

Does that makes sense?  Seems that team is mostly for Wiggo.
smarauder68

Nolte wrote:
Astana

Alexandre Vinokurov
Jani Brajkovic  
Borut Bozic
Dmitry Fofonov
Andriy Grivko
Maxim Iglinskiy
Andrey Kashechkin
Fredrik Kessiakoff
Robert Kiserlovski


I thought Vino retired????
SlowRower

Fontfroide wrote:
Does that makes sense?  Seems that team is mostly for Wiggo.


It makes perfect sense to me.

Cav will win a stage or two without the train, generating good publicity for Sky, with the main focus for the team being the Yellow Jersey for Wiggo. It also fits in well with Cav being at his peak for the OGs.

Cav has plenty of years to target multiple stage wins and Green Jerseys. This is a golden, probably never to be repeated opportunity for Wiggo to win the Tour, given the absence of Berto, Schleck and really hard mountain stages and the inclusion of a lot of TT.

Wiggo winning the Tour and Cav the OGs would be priceless for Sky; far more valuable than anything else they could win with the pair of them this year.
maffy

smarauder68 wrote:
I thought Vino retired????

he did. but it's his team and the silly new you-see-aye points system meant that they kinda needed his points for world tour status. he's not shown anything much in warm up races, but then it's a horrible injury to come back from, especially at his age. stagehunting and silly attacks, which is something to look forward to. fairly strong team, that, with gavazzi as reserve.

cavendish and eisel on sky - mildly surprised. pate'll be peeved. they must have promised to go all the way around. the losing weight for the limpics thing and the gc at stern electrolux without winning a stage is almost certaintly just a ruse to make the other teams do the flat chasing and sprint training. sagan for green, mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQV7KGn4lo

http://road.cc/content/news/60154...esults-suffer-olympic-preparation
Biosphere

The inevitable news

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bruyneel-to-skip-tour-de-france
HuwB

FDJ-BigMat

Sandy Casar
Cedric Pineau
Pierrick Fédrigo
Matthew Ladagnous
Jeremy Roy
Arthur Vichot
Thibaut Pinot
Anthony Roux
Yauheni Hutarovich

Ag2r-La Mondiale

Maxime Bouet
Mikael Cherel
Hubert Dupont
Blel Kadri
Sébastien Minard
Lloyd Mondory
Jean-Christophe Peraud
Christophe Riblon
Nicolas Roche

Orica Green-edge

Cooke,
Lancaster,
Impey,
Goss,
Albasini,
Weening,
Langeveld,
Gerrans
O’Grady
Beasley

maffy wrote:
cavendish and eisel on sky - mildly surprised. pate'll be peeved. they must have promised to go all the way around. the losing weight for the limpics thing and the gc at stern electrolux without winning a stage is almost certaintly just a ruse to make the other teams do the flat chasing and sprint training. sagan for green, mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQV7KGn4lo

http://road.cc/content/news/60154...esults-suffer-olympic-preparation

re. Sagan. Agree. Clear favourite for the MV.

However, having had a look at the route, I don't think a green-yellow combo is out of the question. 4 flat stage in the first week, stage 13 and Champs-Elysees is it for the fast boys. The run-in to Pau is a possibility, too, but that's look a break-day, for me.

Sky won't be doing anymore chasing than they have too - this really is the year as far as a British winner goes - but with GreenEdge alone with the Gorilla's mob and Kittel's boys after stage wins (I expect?) if Cav's sprinting well and can follow the wheels, he could find himself in contention by default.
Boogerd_Fan

Uff.. surprisinsly realistic message from Rabobank.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/g...ch-squad-for-london-2012-olympics

looking for top 10 with Mollema & Gesink...

either very sensible or very limited thinking already Sad
HuwB

Lampre
Grega Bole
Danilo Hondo
Yuriy Krivtsov
Matthew Lloyd
Marco Marzano
Alessandro Petacchi
Michele Scarponi
Simone Stortoni
Davide Viganň

Liquigas
Vincenzo Nibali
Peter Sagan
Ivan Basso
Szmyd
Canuti
Nerz
Koren
Daniel Oss
Vanotti
smarauder68

Who are the top contenders for the Green Jersey if Cavendish is serious about not seriously contesting it?

Haedo have a shot?

How about Pettachi? Past his best?

Farrar up to par so far in 2012?

Who then?
Beasley

Dunno, depends what my commission is... Wink

Sagan looks a good shout, but all the usual suspects will be in contention. What Sagan has in his favour, other than being pretty nippy, is that he'll be there at the end more often that the rest of the sprint fraternity. Stages 1 and 3 are custom made for him.

Too many years on the clock for the Ale-Jet, though he did put Allan Davis to the sword in Bayern-Rundfahrt
gerry12ie

Sky are going to have to work very, very hard if Cav is in with a shout for the MV.  If it comes down to hunting intermediate sprints (like last year) then they are going to be pressed on all fronts.  Throw in the likelihood of at least four of the team in the frame for olympic golds and you could be forgiven that Cav might feel a bit short changed in the third week.  Sagan looks like an obvious choice for green but Greipel is make a lot of noise about the Lotto train...

Can Sky really control the race from day one to Paris on two fronts?  I think something may have to give.
Fontfroide

smarauder68 wrote:
Who are the top contenders for the Green Jersey if Cavendish is serious about not seriously contesting it?



How about the guy who finished second last year?
Biosphere

I received the attached from a friend of mine who has been a bit bed ridden recently and had some time on his hands. It's a .KMZ file which should be opened by Google Earth (GE) which is a free download if you don't have it. I guarantee (which I know doesn't mean much) that  it's virus free and there is no malware or anything like that. If you still have doubts just Google things like malware and KMZ and you'll see that there isn't really a risk from opening a KMZ file in GE.

Basically the stages have been entered as overlays in GE and in the browser panel on the left they can be turned on or off by ticking their associated box. I prefer to turn off the overlay maps (top option). It does a lot of scraping of Mr Google's map data so is slow and is not very visually pleasing. Clicking on the hyperlink for each stage in the left hand browser panel brings up the standard ASO stuff that we normally copy over here. However, right clicking on the on the route itself in the map area and selecting the elevation profile brings up an interactive profile. Sliding the mouse along the profile brings up local altitude and gradient. Left clicking, holding and dragging along the profile highlights that section and displays its local stats.

The screenshot should give an idea of whether you think it's worth having a play with. It's not been posted anywhere else so is a JC exclusive for now, but the owner is happy for it to be propagated on other forums etc.

Enjoy if you take the plunge


Click to see full size image


Click to download file
smarauder68

I'm looking forward to stage 7. Looks like a nasty climb up to that ski resort. I checked it out on google earth...8km of hell. Could see some favorites lose up to 2 or 3 minutes there.
CapeRoadie

smarauder68 wrote:
Who are the top contenders for the Green Jersey if Cavendish is serious about not seriously contesting it?

Haedo have a shot?

How about Pettachi? Past his best?

Farrar up to par so far in 2012?

Who then?


I'm thinking of Goss, Sagan, Greipel and my dark horse pick, Renshaw.
MAILLOT JAUNE

Team Presentation tonight!

Anyone going? I'm going out for a meal in Arnhem tonight so won't make it.
gerry12ie

Thanks Bio
smarauder68

CapeRoadie wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Who are the top contenders for the Green Jersey if Cavendish is serious about not seriously contesting it?

Haedo have a shot?

How about Pettachi? Past his best?

Farrar up to par so far in 2012?

Who then?


I'm thinking of Goss, Sagan, Greipel and my dark horse pick, Renshaw.


What about Rojas? He was very consistent last year, wasn't he?
MS

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/f...t-top-form-for-the-tour-de-france

This is getting to be downright humorous. Any chance these two might show up on Bridezillas?
HuwB

MS wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/f...t-top-form-for-the-tour-de-france

This is getting to be downright humorous. Any chance these two might show up on Bridezillas?


Blink and you can miss both the Schlecks at top form. Rolling Eyes
MS

HuwB wrote:
MS wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/f...t-top-form-for-the-tour-de-france

This is getting to be downright humorous. Any chance these two might show up on Bridezillas?


Blink and you can miss both the Schlecks at top form. Rolling Eyes


I suppose you could say the same of LeMond. I grew tired of his excuses back in the day, but, then again, he won the Tour three times and a World's Championship. Frank's palmares aren't even in the same universe.

Who will follow the Schlecks to their next team?
berck

HuwB wrote:
MS wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/f...t-top-form-for-the-tour-de-france

This is getting to be downright humorous. Any chance these two might show up on Bridezillas?


Blink and you can miss both the Schlecks at top form. Rolling Eyes


This kind of has the smell of Johan tactics.
berck

gerry12ie wrote:
Thanks Bio


+1 Smile
MAILLOT JAUNE

Off tomorrow to see the Prologue, Stage 1 and Stage 2!!!! Can't wait!!! It's just like Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Very Happy

Enjoy the Tour everyone!!!!
Bartali

very jealous MJ.  Have a great time!
billgull

http://msn.foxsports.com/cycling/...list-bartali-was-true-hero-062812

Hopefully, Bartali will enjoy this article!  Smile
Bartali

Thx Billgull

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