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Biosphere

Tour 2016, Stages 1-4: Departure-Day + 3, 2nd - 5th July

Some long stages in the first few days, but unless the wind blows up, probably crashes and mechanicals are the only thing that will concern the GC riders. Notwithstanding the few seconds to be grabbed at the Stage 2 finish.

Stage 1 – Saturday 2nd July


Stage 2 – Sunday 3rd July


Stage 3 – Monday 4th July


Stage 4 – Tuesday 5th July

Nolte

Biosphere wrote:
Following Gilbert, it's Bouhanni's turn to miss on a big season goal after having a meet and greet between his fist and Joe Public's face.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bouhanni-to-miss-the-tour-de-france/


all the money cofidis has spent on bouhanni and a tailor made sprint train for him and that's two tours that he has been absent/injured due to the nationals. it's a pity but that is the risk of investment Sad

maybe they should take the lead of what teams do with their irish riders and not allow bouhanni to ride the nationals
mazda

He could get into a fight anywhere though, not just on the road.
Nolte

mazda wrote:
He could get into a fight anywhere though, not just on the road.


Or hotel room night before a race
kathy

FP thread here.

http://justcycling.wonko.myfastforum.org/about5379.html
HuwB

I'm adding the maps here, as if the weather is poor, we could get early fireworks.....

Stage 1




Stage 2




Stage 3




Stage 4


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HuwB

Maps are a bit large.
Weather warning for wind on Sunday in the Cherbourg area. Rain and a strong cross tailwind. Gusts of 55kph.
No rain and 40kph on Saturday.

Tasty.
gerry12ie

It's difficult to look beyond the Froome-Quintana showdown that the media expect.  Of course, Contador should be feared but its amazing to think he hasn't even had a legitimate podium in the last 6 TDFs.  I wonder how both BMC will fare out with the two leaders approach, TBH it's hard to think either of them have too much of a chance.  It's also difficult to work out who will give the most support to the nominated leader out of Valverde and Nibali Wink although I do think there is more likelihood of Nibs playing a strong support to Aru than Aru giving Nibs a hand if he ends up in stronger position.

Given the final week, might we have a GC contender in the maillot pois rather than the now usual breakaway contenders?  I also wonder if Kittel or Greipel can offer any serious competition to Sagan for the points, although I think that one is headed in only one direction.

The white jersey competition has the look of a bit of a scrap about it though - Barguil, Yates, Menthes, Kelderman and Alaphillipe all have a good shot at it.

I fear that we will lose a few in the first few days though, in the usual first week carnage - especially if the weather is poor.  They are going to have to work something out, or at least accept that it isn't possible for every single team to ride up the front at the same time...
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
Maps are a bit large . . . .


But actually quite nice to have a closer look at where it goes. I am reminded of my visit to the "Landis Tour" when it went through Normandy / Brittany and France being in the World Cup final that same weekend.

Anyway. I added in some smaller laptop friendly versions that are pretty similar. If you are happy with the swap then I will make the change permanent?
Biosphere

Nolte wrote:
mazda wrote:
He could get into a fight anywhere though, not just on the road.


Or hotel room night before a race


His versatility is one of the reasons that Cofidis hired him Wink
Nolte

With illness in June meaning Cavendish only did a stage in Slovenia and the nationals and the work on the track for the omnimum, will that lead to another fruitless July for Cavendish?

When it came to cobblestones selection, I pined over cav or coquard, originally having coquard in the team but changing today to cav.

For Bennett and bora, Bennett needs to be kept in position. It is the difficulty for smaller teams to keep their sprinters in position (I also think martin during his time in cannondale weakness was positioning

For the greens, as the fps show, hard to look beyond sagan. Though the thing is it is the tour and for other sprinters to keep scoring because illness, crashes could happen Sagan though not much consolation for other sprinters, is it?
HuwB

Have fun little ones.....

HuwB

Most tv channels have started their coverage.
We are currently rolling out along the Mont st Michel causeway.
HuwB

Leigh Howard, Jan Barta and Paul Voss immediately form the race's first breakaway.
Only a further 2 riders trying to bridge.
Fontfroide

Kind of fun spending a few extra minutes, before my nap, looking at the TV and getting slowly into the rhythm of the next three weeks.  Nice seaside though.  And looking forward to when the hilly action starts.  Not that I don't like sprints, just that they don't have quite so much racing in some ways.  These days I guess almost all the racing tends to be at the end of the stage.  Until the end, one can just enjoy the atmosphere.  Back to the box.
Nolte

20km or so to the points sprint

Bora with 2, 1 was expected but 2 indicates not thinking about Sam Bennett for the sprint
Nolte

Peloton starting to ride at the front

Katusha, cannondale, sky, lotto soudal, ettixx, movistar working hard
Nolte

Contador looking like he has nasty road raeh

Pace seems to have subsided a little, remaining at 35 seconds for break to peloton

Edit - seen crash and that looked nasty into a traffic island.

Thomas needed wheel change at same time but puncture
Nolte

Nolte wrote:
With illness in June meaning Cavendish only did a stage in Slovenia and the nationals and the work on the track for the omnimum, will that lead to another fruitless July for Cavendish?


Anyone got some alphabet soup, I got some words to eat Smile

Pleased for Cavendish and yellow Jersey with the stage win
gerry12ie

Cav, eh?  Chuffed for him Very Happy

Ashley's turn for the yellow trousers Very Happy  Very Happy
HuwB

Cav confounds the critics.
Meanwhile, half of my Velogames team gets to inspect the French tarmac as my kiss of death season remains in full swing.
gerry12ie

Looked a little from the replay as if Kittel thought he only had Sagan to beat and more or less eased his way around him for the win.  He appeared shocked when he looked to his right and saw Cavendish I thought...

Sammy Bennett down in the crash?
kathy

Well done, Cav!  Almost as good as Wales last night! Laughing
Nolte

gerry12ie wrote:
Looked a little from the replay as if Kittel thought he only had Sagan to beat and more or less eased his way around him for the win.  He appeared shocked when he looked to his right and saw Cavendish I thought...

Sammy Bennett down in the crash?


On the list of finishers available so far, Bennett isn't there yet

Other thing on results list on letour.fr, they are currently giving time gaps on the classification. Quintana and froome at 33 seconds on gc, porte, dumoulin, aru and nibali at 42 seconds on gc.

Martin, van garderen, bardet appear on stage result at same time time as aru, nibali but not yet on GC

Contador for stage at 55 seconds so if they keep gaps that is 1'05

No sign of pinot on results yet

Though I think times will be revised on the gc
gerry12ie

Bennett came in 2'21" down and holding his right arm/shoulder.  Not looking so good...
Nolte

Letour.fr revises it that most riders are at 10 seconds
HuwB

gerry12ie wrote:
Bennett came in 2'21" down and holding his right arm/shoulder.  Not looking so good...


Latest is no bones broken or serious injury. Hopefully will take the start tomorrow.
gerry12ie

Contador crash:


Link
Biosphere

That's interesting. Tinkoff team had said that Bookwalter crashed in front of Contador and brought him down as well. Goes to show that what should be a simple case of taking "eye witness" account is not so straightforward.

Pleased for Cavendish today. His Tour career deserved a Yellow Jersey at some point.
Biosphere

Today's run in



and breakdown of the final climb

HuwB

De Jongh has now apologised to BB via twitter and blamed the info. Wink

Paul Voss and Cesare Benedetti (Bora-Argon 1Cool, Vegard Breen (Fortuneo-Vital Concept) and Jasper Stuyven (Trek-Segafredo) now have a lead of 5 and a half minutes.

Today's weather map:-
gerry12ie

Contador, J-Rod, T Martin, Matthews, Kittel all amongst those that are down at 120k.  DDD sit up so they should all get back on.  Kelly giving out yards about the narrow roads and street furniture in the finale
Nolte

Any UCI penalties for excessive sticky jackets?

Etixx are in an interesting position. I think martin to follow attacks and if unsuccessful, alaphillippe for the sprint

Is that 8 or 6 minutes.interesting that in against recent years where the breakaway at a close 5 minutes, they let it go out

Edit - it is 6 minutes gap
Nolte

Still 5'40 gap with 48km left

Are they letting the breakaway contest the stage?
Biosphere

Nolte wrote:
Still 5'40 gap with 48km left

Are they letting the breakaway contest the stage?


Just in after a bike ride. Surely the break will be caught - the yellow jersey is at stake.
Nolte

2'20 with 11km. Sean Kelly thinks it'll be tight

No one really wanted to take over from dimension data.
I guess GC teams didn't want the responsibility yet.

Stuyven attacks
Nolte

Contador dropped thanks to the hard work of tinkoff/kreuziger. Good work Wink

Alaphillippe went a bit too early

Porte at 1'43 due

And face pal when Carlton Kirby misread the time thing and saying stuyven will make it
Boogerd_Fan

Booooooom

First slovak wearer of Yellow Jersey to boot.

Get in!!
HuwB

Just caught up.
They climbed a small hill that left some GC men with a mountain of deficit.
As Nolte said: Kreuziger wtf?
The annual Sagan show gets into full swing with Little Sagan his closest rival.

Kirby? Words can no longer describe this hysterical, clueless clowns contribution that is already ruining this Le Grand Boucle.
Boogerd_Fan

Kreuziger is on great form, winning the CZ/SK combined championships last week on a hilly course.. he looked thinner than i ever saw him before.. but i guess they expected Bertie to keep up.
gerry12ie

HuwB wrote:
Just caught up.
They climbed a small hill that left some GC men with a mountain of deficit.
As Nolte said: Kreuziger wtf?
The annual Sagan show gets into full swing with Little Sagan his closest rival.

Kirby? Words can no longer describe this hysterical, clueless clowns contribution that is already ruining this Le Grand Boucle.


Very Happy  Very Happy

The man is a halfwit, I honestly don't know how Kelly puts up with him.
HuwB

They had to make excuses for his afterwards.
Stuyven with a gap that suddenly trebled, yet the bunch were in the same shot: even a novice could figure out that meant Cav was dropped, but not, apparently, our Carlton.

Anyhow.
Today's crash caught on camera, that involved the apparently ex-Tinkoff team leader:-

https://twitter.com/letour/status/749654900527624192
Biosphere

We had evening BBQ guests yesterday so twas late when I saw results. I thought Tinkoff were right to push on for Sagan. If Contador can't keep up, then he's in trouble anyway. Uncle Oleg wants at least one day in yellow after all his investment and Sagan needed to maximise his green points yesterday. With the big name sprinters taking points off each other, the changes to points scoring may not have the desired effect anyway.

Happy America Day to the posters on the other side of the pond.
HuwB

Seriously slow. The peloton have over 150kms left to ride, with France 3 now live.
Boogerd_Fan

Gotta feel sorry for Fonseca.. peloton leaving him out there for a 200km solo today.

The run in contains quite a few 90 deg turns, i'm thinking advantage Greipel, Sagan...

What is the purpose of Pozzovivo at this Tour? he seems to be riding dead last in the group everyday so far..
mazda

Amazingly TV has not only been allowed to go off up the road, he has bridged across to Fonseca.
80km to go.
HuwB

Average race speed just about to break through the 34kph barrier.
It's like watching cheese age.
gerry12ie

Sagan and Eisel not too happy about GC teams mixing it with sprint trains.  I can't say I blame them, it is getting ridiculous...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/t...st-getting-ridiculous-says-eisel/
billgull

Chapeau, Cav!
Boogerd_Fan

That was close!

Where was Kittel??
HuwB

Cav cleaning up. Kittel 7th. Not sure if Kristoff has finished yet!

God that was one boring stage and there is a strong possibility for a repeat tomorrow, only with some Sun.

Sagan looks like Rapunzel. Can't somebody cut it while he sleeps?
The big girl.
Nolte

HuwB wrote:
Average race speed just about to break through the 34kph barrier.
It's like watching cheese age.


When I turned on my TV when I got home this evening in time to miss the first 5 minutes of neighbour the big auto car show Wink  it nearly spoiled the stage as it was on itv4 and they were just signing off

The thing with kittel was that they got to the front with martin but when martin pulling off, they lost the positioning.

The sprint was a messy one and for kittel, etixx needs to exert more control I feel if they want kittel to be there for the sprint.
HuwB

I'm think that with tomorrow's stage finish being on a slightly tougher incline, Etix should give the in form Richeze a chance.......but of course, they won't.
Boogerd_Fan

Slow speeds today partly due to Tinkoff and yellow jersey team not being too interested in setting the pace??

They can cut his hair in his sleep to please you Huw, but unfortunately he is no Samson :-p
Fontfroide

HuwB wrote:


Sagan looks like Rapunzel. Can't somebody cut it while he sleeps?
The big girl.


One might say the same for Bale, eh Huw?  Wink  Two guys with man-buns.

What's wrong with long hair anyway?  Can't be much worse than beards.
Fontfroide

It does spice things up a little bit when there is a slight incline at the end.  Although alternating with finishes that are flat gives everyone a chance.
gerry12ie

Fontfroide wrote:
HuwB wrote:


Sagan looks like Rapunzel. Can't somebody cut it while he sleeps?
The big girl.


One might say the same for Bale, eh Huw?  Wink  Two guys with man-buns.

What's wrong with long hair anyway?  Can't be much worse than beards.


In Sagan's case the trucker's hillbilly hat doesn't help one bit.  Nothing wrong with long hair though, I had flowing locks myself once - now I would have to go for the double, double combover just to get it to resemble anything close to a proper head of hair Wink
Boogerd_Fan

that roundabout at 3,6km really strung them out

Greipel vs. Sagan it seems, no OPQS bring Kittel up in last 500m

Whoa!! Coquard with super speed, but i think Kittel gets it.
Very usefully for Peto, Cav and Greipel both distanced in the sprint, they won't be collecting too many points today.
mazda

4 more seconds for Sagan.
HuwB

Kittel by a coat of rubber.
Coquard has a knack of leaving things just too late.
The hills can't come a moment too soon after two days totaling 450kms and 60 seconds of action.

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