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Tour 2013, Stage 21: We'll Always Have Paris, 21st July

The first chance for the likes of Cavendish for the best part of 10 days. If Cavendish wins today, it's 5 years in a row! Late finish for the post race centenary fireworks.

Jean-François Pescheux wrote:
Around the Arc-de-Triomphe
It's the final day, and it's going to be incomparable in the strictest sense because we really wanted to pay full tribute at the end of this 100th edition. From the sporting perspective, there shouldn't be too many surprises: it's difficult to imagine the sprinters missing out! And if that sprinter happens, for the fifth consecutive occasion, to be called Mark Cavendish, then that really would be an extraordinary exploit. From the celebratory point of view, we have an unforgettable route, which will start in the gardens of the Palace of Versailles, pass the monument to Jacques Anquetil, then go through the courtyard of the Louvre, before turning not in front of but around the Arc de Triomphe. The finish will be at dusk, at around 9.45pm. It will be magical...




Biosphere

Amused that gone 6 pm in the evening (well for me anyway), that we haven't had a comment on Champs Elysees Sunday. All tired after the mountains I guess Smile

I think Kittel will win tonight in keeping with the theme of there being new kids on the block.
berck

Do they always run this stage so late?
gerry12ie

I have done well to survive Kirby for three weeks  - and now that he is full inane mode it's even more painful.  It should be cracking sprint on Cav's home turf and if Steegmans gets it right I'll take cav for the win.  

Special late start for the 100th edition Berck with added lights, fireworks, Jean Michel Jarre, and not so much a sticky bottle but a sticky champagne glass for Froome.  Somebody take it off him, he is clearly uncomfortable.
Fontfroide

I think Cav will take it too.  Looking forward to when they come up the Rue Rivoli for the last time with at least three maybe four trains pulling, then the wee chicane, and the lat bit.  Should be very good theatre.
berck

gerry12ie wrote:

Special late start for the 100th edition Berck with added lights, fireworks, Jean Michel Jarre, and not so much a sticky bottle but a sticky champagne glass for Froome.  Somebody take it off him, he is clearly uncomfortable.


Ok thanks! I've been watching it, but thought it would have been done long ago. I have two friends on the Champs Elysees watching today. A first for them both.
gerry12ie

Fontfroide wrote:
I think Cav will take it too.  Looking forward to when they come up the Rue Rivoli for the last time with at least three maybe four trains pulling, then the wee chicane, and the lat bit.  Should be very good theatre.


Or an almighty chute Wink
gerry12ie

Going in to the final week a lot was made of the absence of wins by the traditional Eoropean countries, and even though Riblon and Trentin put Italy and France on the board the TDF continues to swing in a more international direction.

The 1989 Tour was fairly international too though, with wins for USA and Mexico although the most obvious query is where did the Dutch go?


1989

NED - 6 stages
FRA - 3 stages
USA - 3 stages
ITA - 2 stages
BEL - 1 stage
SPA - 1 stage
POR - 1 stage
MEX - 1 stage
IRE - 1 stage
GBR - 1 stage
SUI - 1 stage


2013

GBR - 5 stages
GER - 5 stages
POR - 2 stages
AUS - 2 stages
SVK - 1 stage
IRE - 1 stage
ITA - 1 stage
FRA - 1 stage
COL - 1 stage

I expect Cav to make it 6 today and match the Dutch performance of '89.
Bartali

I assume those 1989 results are before they are revised later in the week when Equipe bust cycling wide open ... again!

Anyone but Cav ... simply because P&P and Kirby will be unbearable!
gerry12ie

Turning L'arc de Triomphe in to a roundabout has created a new piece of street furniture that is fairly impressive Very Happy  Very Happy
Bartali

Attack!!!!
Fontfroide

Bartali wrote:
Attack!!!!


Made me chuckle.
Bartali

I would love someone to sneak away and in this ...
gerry12ie

Well there was a touch of inevitability about that.  Kittel looks like the boss now
Beasley

Kittel by half a bike.

Didn't look that close, though. Neither Cav nor the Gorilla had the punch to get round him. Very impressive.

Think Cavendish nicked second. He seemed to have a little more momentum.
Bartali

Cavendish in third I think.  Are we seeing a changing of the guard?
gerry12ie

I think the Gorilla got 2nd.  How did Gilbert get into Kittel's celebration shot?  Had they just lapped him? Wink
Bartali

Well the first African winner.  Chapeau.
gerry12ie

Not a peep from Wiggins during the Tour.  Bit shabby...

I hate to see cyclists wearing baseball caps.  What is wrong with team cycling caps?
Bartali

Have you seen the funny interview with Bungo where he takes the mickey out of Cav for wearing his cap wrong?  Hilarious ...
Bartali

Wiggins will retire now ... you heard it here first!
gerry12ie

Nowhere does pomp quite like Paris
gerry12ie


Link
Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Bartali

That's the one Smile Smile Smile
SlowRower

Nice touch on the podium with JRod's kiddies "high fiving" the Froomedog.
gerry12ie

Yes it seems there is no obvious place for Wiggins at Sky unless he was to adopt the kind of role Millar plays at Garmin.  Unlikely though.  Difficult to see any major teams come in for him as well as he will never have the luxury of a GT laid out for him like last year.  Maybe retirement does beckon...
kathy

Just watched the last stage on ES, as TDP weren't taking it until 8.30.  Kirby is a real pain, but al least Maggie was in the background with some sensible comments!
SlowRower

gerry12ie wrote:
Yes it seems there is no obvious place for Wiggins at Sky unless he was to adopt the kind of role Millar plays at Garmin.


Wiggo will soon be focusing on the TP in Rio. Cav may join him, as he really wants a gold gong, and that might be easier than trying to get faster than Kittel.
Fontfroide

gerry12ie wrote:
Nowhere does pomp quite like Paris


+1

Good light show.  Nice to see J-Rod's kids.  And all the old giants of the road.  Those French do it right sometimes.

They even arranged a good sprint finish, with the right winner.  Shame about the bad road surface, or pothole for Cav.  Nearly went down.  But second, third, same thing.  Kittel the man.  Cav might one day beat Hinault, but Merkcx is now, as usual, out of reach.
Biosphere

SlowRower wrote:

Wiggo will soon be focusing on the TP in Rio. Cav may join him, as he really wants a gold gong, and that might be easier than trying to get faster than Kittel.


I read that the local geography meant that it was unlikely to be a sprinters course in Rio anyway, but don't hold me to that.

Haven't seen anything of the last few days, and most of what I've read had been from here as I prefer the personal takes on things. Thanks to all the posters Smile

I can see Wiggins seriously trying the Giro again, but the more interesting question to me is how much longer Porte will put his ambitions aside and ride for Froome.
KarenP

Groovy light show on the Arc d'T!
Fontfroide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feat...etailpage&v=bHJistBOCu8#t=73s
SlowRower

Biosphere wrote:
SlowRower wrote:

Wiggo will soon be focusing on the TP in Rio. Cav may join him, as he really wants a gold gong, and that might be easier than trying to get faster than Kittel.


I read that the local geography meant that it was unlikely to be a sprinters course in Rio anyway, but don't hold me to that.


Sorry - I meant that Cav will join him in the TP. It will be even more of a sprinters' game by 2016!
Bartali

Biosphere wrote:
I can see Wiggins seriously trying the Giro again, but the more interesting question to me is how much longer Porte will put his ambitions aside and ride for Froome.


Personally I can't see Wiggins at the Giro ... partly because of your second point.  Porte has to get his own opportunity sooner or later.  Also, I just think Wiggins has done enough and lacks the motivation to keep going on the road - and I don't say that as a criticism.  He's had a stellar career.  If he wants more 'glory' then the track is a good option given his desire to be closer to his family.
Biosphere

I can see what your saying playing out as well Bart. In fairness you've called it very well this year on Wiggins etc., so your scenario will probably play out in all likelihood. He did bounce back from his Sky debut year though, so I wonder if there's some chance he can get his head back in order.

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