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kathy

Tirreno Adriatico Starts 12th March (Wednesday)

Tirreno Adriatico starts on Wednesday, 12th March.  I have now posted the FP thread which contains all profiles and start list.
kathy

Time to get your FPs in.  The race starts tomorrow!
Fontfroide

I guess commenting on a TTT is not very intriguing.

If anyone has a link that works (in France), do please share it.
HuwB

You guess right.
I watched P-N live on Sporza.
The flat TTT, also known as: When the big boys beat up on the small boys.
Biosphere

Another day off for me Smile

Caught up with both races from yesterday. Sagan went early but nice to see IAM get a win. Today will be more entertaining I expect.
SlowRower

HuwB wrote:
The flat TTT, also known as: When the big boys beat up on the small boys.


It's just a bit of payback for hills! No-one seems too sympathetic when the sprinters have to haul themselves through the Alps.
Fontfroide

I keep looking for a live feed, and fail.  Anyone got one.
Fontfroide

Finally found with my "Filmon" site, which had the last few minutes on the German Eurosport feed.  Lordy me, I am getting desparate.  Although I have heard plenty of it, I am not a big fan of the German Language, even if I am a fan of German Eurosport.  I even get that on my big TV, so my life is fine.
Biosphere

Last year I watched by default on German ES as it was good for trying to learn the language, but having to wait until 7pm yesterday for the Paris Nice results when I was off for the day was rather stupid. Especially given that both races were shown live in parallel on 2 of the Italian channels.

It's so much more fun going back to RAI. On German ES, Kittel's crash and bike throwing had provoked a matter of fact fairly monotone comment - "dass ist Kittel, ja, dass ist Kittel".  On the other hand, if it involves two wheeels the Italian excitement is palpable - Pelucchi's win was "incredibile", the gradient at the PN finish was "terribile" and the general goings on in Arrezo were "spettacolare" according to Garzelli who is a now a studio pundit.

In true Italian fashion Sagan dedicated his win to "la mia mama", whilst the podium girl was bumped by another Italian archetype presenting what I presume is a religious medal of some sort Smile


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Biosphere

6.5km to go. Wiggins and Evans off the back as soon as it got going. Pirazzi, Intxausti and Kreuziger having a go now.
Fontfroide

Good last few k.
Bartali

Bertie's back ....
JohnD

Feel a bit for Kreuziger, told to wait & having to zig-zag whilst beckoning to Contador to get up to him.
mr shifter

JohnD wrote:
Feel a bit for Kreuziger, told to wait & having to zig-zag whilst beckoning to Contador to get up to him.

The plan "A" changed because Alberto was not going to bridge to Kreuziger with the gruppeto siting on his wheel.
The better Plan "B" was shown as patience until the last 400m.
HuwB

Odd sort of ambition shown by Tinkoff, today.
Kwiatkowski clearly having trouble following wheels.
Bertie, on the other hand, had no problem following wheels.
Result: a stage win, but the overall GC, the likely cost.
JohnD

Porte dropped out today due to illness
HuwB

JohnD wrote:
Porte dropped out today due to illness


My stone cold streak continues....
HuwB

Well, it can't a coincidence that Oleg Tinkoff is in charge and
Contador is riding like it's 2007.
Dropped Quintana like he was Kittel.
Took over 3 minutes out of the break in 5kms.
What a transformation. Seen nothing like this from Bertie for, well
ever.
Fontfroide

Been away, turned it on, and thought "how the hell did that happen?"
gerry12ie

P-A-N-A-C-H-E - that's how FF... Very Happy
Fontfroide

Yesss.  I will have two servings of that panache please.  

You cannot fake this kind of thing, as it were.  It is just obvious.
Fontfroide

I guess this is where one might say, if one were oblivious to all the simplifications involved, Alberto is back.  I really like races where there are a number of excellent riders, and we get to say "and then he attacked and rode the rest of the riders off his wheel".  Always impressive.
HuwB

Friggin ridiculous in all respects.
Comedy climbs have no place at WT level.

Tinkoff set to finish the race in 1st and 2nd.
Bartali

HuwB wrote:
Well, it can't a coincidence that Oleg Tinkoff is in charge and
Contador is riding like it's 2007.
Dropped Quintana like he was Kittel.
Took over 3 minutes out of the break in 5kms.
What a transformation. Seen nothing like this from Bertie for, well
ever.


Smile Smile
Boogerd_Fan

if it looks to good to be true, then....

sadly the whole of that sentence can be used to describe a lot of performances in this new "clean" era. Having said that. It's Tirreno-Adriatico, not July. Why on earth would they be juiced now? Collecting some blood in a few days time??

Anyhow, the initial attack, the final climb.. all quite reasonable and Contador-esque. What i found odd was how in the valley Bertie single-handedly pushed his gap out to 2 mins over the Quintana group, with 3 other riders in that front group just trying desperately hard to stay on his wheel, not taking turns....

What a difference 24hrs makes, where despite Bertie's win yesterday, it wasn't exactly †a dominant display simply following the wheels until outsprinting the front group. Today he just looked on a completely different level.
gerry12ie

I don't really know what to make of it.  At first I thought it was just an audacious Contador attack that the rest were prepared to let go for a bit, and when he appeared to be waiting for Quintana it looked kosher enough.  Even on the flat section he had form on the Vuelta stage to Fuente De taking time from chasers, but he was never able to make long range mountain attacks stick like that before, so why now especially given his form of last year?  A total transformation from last July, and Tinkoff's tweet is a bit worrying - a Russian stoking up the arms race?...


Boogerd_Fan

perhaps they geared up for T-A thinking that Froomey would be present and they needed an edge?

i've added a plural in there, cos Roman K was on fire yesterday! He hasn't climbed like that in a while.
Slapshot 3

gerry12ie wrote:
I don't really know what to make of it. †At first I thought it was just an audacious Contador attack that the rest were prepared to let go for a bit, and when he appeared to be waiting for Quintana it looked kosher enough. †Even on the flat section he had form on the Vuelta stage to Fuente De taking time from chasers, but he was never able to make long range mountain attacks stick like that before, so why now especially given his form of last year? †A total transformation from last July, and Tinkoff's tweet is a bit worrying - a Russian stoking up the arms race?...




Just catching up .. wow!! Yup admitted Bertie fanboy but didn't expect that this early in the season. He said after the tour last year that things would be different and all the press and media stuff that been put both pre and post Tinkoff coming on board has said the same. After the bollox of the "marginal gains" crap from Sky for the last couple of years, the questions will all come out but having been away for two years I just want to watch some exciting bike racing and if that's an indication of whats to come, it's going to be a great year!!

As Gerry said .. Panache; it was days like that that makes you fall in love with this sport whatever the background.
mazda

You miserable bunch  Smile

I enjoyed it.
He attacked from, what, 20 miles to go ?

The sad thing is that even with that sort of form he probably still won't be able to match Froome, unless Froome continues to have issues.

Joining in with the spirit of suspicion, do you think Alberto has been on the Xenon over the winter ?
He hasn't been eating - "Iíve kept my mouth closed to keep my weight down"  Laughing
HuwB

A bit different today, to Cav's final TA sprint of a couple of years ago:



Just an excuse to wheel out Wink †an old forum favourite.
berck

HuwB wrote:
A bit different today, to Cav's final TA sprint of a couple of years ago:



Just an excuse to wheel out Wink †an old forum favourite.


A fine example of why we shouldn't file off the lawyer tabs. Wink
tanya

mazda wrote:
You miserable bunch †Smile

I enjoyed it.
He attacked from, what, 20 miles to go ?

The sad thing is that even with that sort of form he probably still won't be able to match Froome, unless Froome continues to have issues.

Joining in with the spirit of suspicion, do you think Alberto has been on the Xenon over the winter ?
He hasn't been eating - "Iíve kept my mouth closed to keep my weight down" †Laughing


I loved it so very much, too Very Happy

That was like a fresh air compared to the power meter- staring style of racing, which Sky and Froome have done for 2 years in a roll now.

It was only a matter of time when other teams/riders said f*** it, this is ridiculous, we've had enough.
Razz

Btw I still expect Froome to crush Contador at Catalanya...
JohnD

It was an exciting ride, will be interesting to see how Contador TT's today as well.  If Contador really is back to his old good form, there should be some great duels with him & Froome coming up....i just wonder if we should believe the hype just yet.
Bartali

JohnD wrote:
It was an exciting ride, will be interesting to see how Contador TT's today as well. †If Contador really is back to his old good form, there should be some great duels with him & Froome coming up....i just wonder if we should believe the hype just yet.


Agreed - I'm really looking forward to seeing Bertie and Froome duke it out for the remaining podium places behind Nibs. Wink
JohnD

Hehehe - i was thinking about Nibs when taking the dog out just now; so we have Nibs-Contador-Froome-Valverde to look forward to i guess, who else can we add?
JohnD

Daniel Lloyd ‏@daniellloyd1 6m
.@alexdowsett quickest so far here in #tirreno 10:33, 51.75kph so 0.65kph faster than he went last year. Hepburn lying in 2nd, 13s down

He's my pick for today but can't really see him being top 5.
HuwB

Adriano Malori leads, 15 seconds faster than Tony Martin, at 10:13. Shocked
I had a feeling, but put it down to the KOD run continuing.
Seems I was right on both counts.
kathy

If you would like my take on incredible performances, what about Sagan beating the likes of Nibali etc on the mountain stage.  No-one has mentioned this - I wonder why?
Bartali

I think that's a little unfair Kathy given what poor form Nibs is in while Sagan is pretty much at his peak.  But Im not saying that Sagan is above suspicion.

IMO Bertie was reassuringly slow today tho I suppose he didn't have to show his full hand.
HuwB

Bartali wrote:
I think that's a little unfair Kathy given what poor form Nibs is in while Sagan is pretty much at his peak. †But Im not saying that Sagan is above suspicion.

IMO Bertie was reassuringly slow today tho I suppose he didn't have to show his full hand.


Not to mention that they were also in different races. Wink  Laughing
Bartali

Smile I thought that too ... but just assumed Kathy was paying more attention than me!  How funny!! Smile
JohnD

I must admit there were days doing the FP's i had to double check who was racing in what †Embarassed
Biosphere

Some days did blur a bit for me too Smile

Sagan's climbing prowess has raised eyebrows on here in the past. I'm reserving judgement till later on in the season to see where things are at with the whole peloton.
Boogerd_Fan

I am already nervous for Sunday...
JohnD

I'm guessing the weather will be a deciding factor in who's up for it or not
Fontfroide

It means I can ride on Saturday in the afternoon, after hanging out at the market in the morning.  But Sunday I will have to put on the longs to ride in the rather cool morning instead of the afternoon.  What a good day, ride in the morning and M- SR in the afternoon.  Frankly, for me, that is a fantastic Sunday.  

By the way in case you think I am doing long rides, I still have not gone more than 50k this year.  I think the years are beginning to take a toll, but the pleasure is just as great as ever.  The hills are just fewer and shorter.

Sprinter or Puncher?  Italian or other?  A surprise?  We just don't have any idea, and that makes a wonderful race.  Not to mention the coastal road.

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