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CapeRoadie

The Current Stable





















And here's my 5-year old's racing bike.  I decided you could appreciate its magnitude better with some perspective:









Of course I had to take it for a ride:



headwind

: )
crash48

I want to see you go uphill on that badboy Smile
thunderthighs

u drive a gashog.. i hate ford.. ciao
CapeRoadie

thunderthighs wrote:
u drive a gashog.. i hate ford.. ciao


Me, too, but the bikes and the kids and the gear all fit in nicely.  We use it only for certain excursions, and try to cut down on gas expenses by biking more.  Plus I got it for about $6500 under book value two years ago.

I'll post a pic of my 9-year old's new junior Bianchi as soon as I put it together.  Got a great deal on it in San Francisco at American Cyclery, where Robin Williams (the Academy Award-winning actor) buys and services his bikes.

Now, TT, aside from the Ford...what do you think of the bikes?
cardinal guzman

Bikes all lovely, spoilt by big red heap in background. As I tell my good friend who has a  similar vehicle, people who drive 4x4s ought to be summarily shot in the face as they give the bird to the rest of society! (grain prices rising dramatically as biofuels try and plug the peak oil gap). Smile

Please keep us updated on the Bianchi, I've spent a lot of time this week running around holding the seat of my 4yo nephew's bike, and all his cousins have been so disappointing in the bicycling front that he's my last chance - I will make a cyclist out of one of these monkeys!
CapeRoadie

cardinal guzman wrote:
Bikes all lovely, spoilt by big red heap in background. As I tell my good friend who has a  similar vehicle, people who drive 4x4s ought to be summarily shot in the face as they give the bird to the rest of society! (grain prices rising dramatically as biofuels try and plug the peak oil gap). Smile

Please keep us updated on the Bianchi, I've spent a lot of time this week running around holding the seat of my 4yo nephew's bike, and all his cousins have been so disappointing in the bicycling front that he's my last chance - I will make a cyclist out of one of these monkeys!


Here's the thing about the SUV.  I love it.  I'm not the only truck driver who lives on a farm, either.  We live on a dirt road that is about a mile long.  If it snows, we usually don't get plowed in a timely fashion.  Since I have to be at work and care for patients, I can get out.  And here's the other thing.  I have had many, many neck injuries and concussions (including one where I ended up in a coma for a few days and almost didn't make it)  over the years.  One more concussion could be my last.  Since size matters on the roads, and since I'm a defensive driver, especially now, if you hit me I still might have a chance.

I also haul boats for family members and haul brush and leaves and all sorts of shite.  It's a truck.  I'd put a plow on it if I thought that wouldn't destroy it fast.

So I get around the gas issue by simply using only when I need to.  I ride my bike to work and back in the spring, summer and fall.  We are a very green family in many other ways-- solar power rechargers, paperless medical office (EMR), recycle and compost everything, huge herb and vegetable garden, fruit trees and a variety of berries growing on our property.  We farm vegetables.  We also fish, and we used to raise chickens and other animals (not anymore).  We use well water and we filter it for consumption.  I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.

How many of you all are doing that?

The Bianchi.  Just arrived two days ago.  Still sitting in a box, hiding.  I'll likely give it to her before her birthday, which is in late May.  She's apprehensive about clipless pedals, though.  ANy sugestions so I don't accidentally ruin her experience?  I would love to see her race, but that's another story altogether.  I hope that desire comes from simply watching me race, maybe through osmosis or something...

All ideas welcome...
Jackov



That's the pic I've wanted to see, because I wanted to get a sense of scale. I saw the one  with your daughter by it, but that didn't really give a sense of scale. Is the rear deraileur standard size?

As far as an SUV goes, it is nonsense to demonize them. Somebody could drive a more efficient vehicle and yet consume more gallons in a year if they drove it far enough.  For those that are still really outraged about a guzzler, don't you know that the taxes on fuel are plenty punishment enough?
CapeRoadie

yeah, I was looking at those pics too and thought you still don't really see how small it is.  Yes, it is a standard size Sun Tour derailleur that Gitane used on these bikes c. mid-70's.  Originally it had a downtube shifter, also full-sized, but we found a bar-end shifter, also Sun Tour, lying around the shop where I do business.  It means my little one doesn't have to take her hands off the bars to shift.
Bartali

Love the Gitane!!!  Look forward to seeing the Bianchi - the most 'romantic' of all bikes.  Hope it is celeste blue!?
thunderthighs

the bikes are ok.. i like Gitane too.. that truck was a steal... bianchi never road latest type...but my freind who rode worlds junoir in 87.. rode his...its a monster..

ciao
bbnaz

smugly smiling in the corner here as the former owner of a sad, neglected Gitane that once again can hold it's head up in the world.
cardinal guzman

CapeRoadie wrote:
cardinal guzman wrote:
Bikes all lovely, spoilt by big red heap in background. As I tell my good friend who has a  similar vehicle, people who drive 4x4s ought to be summarily shot in the face as they give the bird to the rest of society! (grain prices rising dramatically as biofuels try and plug the peak oil gap). Smile

Please keep us updated on the Bianchi, I've spent a lot of time this week running around holding the seat of my 4yo nephew's bike, and all his cousins have been so disappointing in the bicycling front that he's my last chance - I will make a cyclist out of one of these monkeys!


Here's the thing about the SUV.  I love it.  I'm not the only truck driver who lives on a farm, either.  We live on a dirt road that is about a mile long.  If it snows, we usually don't get plowed in a timely fashion.  Since I have to be at work and care for patients, I can get out.  And here's the other thing.  I have had many, many neck injuries and concussions (including one where I ended up in a coma for a few days and almost didn't make it)  over the years.  One more concussion could be my last.  Since size matters on the roads, and since I'm a defensive driver, especially now, if you hit me I still might have a chance.

I also haul boats for family members and haul brush and leaves and all sorts of shite.  It's a truck.  I'd put a plow on it if I thought that wouldn't destroy it fast.

So I get around the gas issue by simply using only when I need to.  I ride my bike to work and back in the spring, summer and fall.  We are a very green family in many other ways-- solar power rechargers, paperless medical office (EMR), recycle and compost everything, huge herb and vegetable garden, fruit trees and a variety of berries growing on our property.  We farm vegetables.  We also fish, and we used to raise chickens and other animals (not anymore).  We use well water and we filter it for consumption.  I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.

How many of you all are doing that?

The Bianchi.  Just arrived two days ago.  Still sitting in a box, hiding.  I'll likely give it to her before her birthday, which is in late May.  She's apprehensive about clipless pedals, though.  ANy sugestions so I don't accidentally ruin her experience?  I would love to see her race, but that's another story altogether.  I hope that desire comes from simply watching me race, maybe through osmosis or something...

All ideas welcome...


Hi Cape,

I suspected as much on the SUV front - you're more polite than my mate who's standard response is; "fuck off you hippy shitbag" Wink

A more nervous cyclist than mrs Guz has yet to be born - when she goes downhill it's so slow you need timelapse to see any movement at all, but she did manage to trust me that clipless is easier to release and clip into, and she hasn't looked back since! (she can't actually look back without falling off Rolling Eyes )
berck

My suggestion to people who are using clipless pedals for the first time is this...

Pretend they are ski bindings. You pop out of the side of ski binds like you have to with pedals to get out in a hurry.

I also suggest riding up to curbs and pop out to rest the nearest foot on the curb.

FYI: Cape's Madone looks even better in real life. Smile
Bartali

I have to say I think the fixed is the 'best looking' bike of the bunch ... but its certainly a nice stable.
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
Love the Gitane!!!  Look forward to seeing the Bianchi - the most 'romantic' of all bikes.  Hope it is celeste blue!?


It is Celeste blue, with some sporty navy blue mixed in.  It has full Campy Chorus, in mini!  I'll post when it's built up.
CapeRoadie

My friend Mark M. is standing here and just came up with an idea!  He said that my 9-year old should ride with one clipless pedal and one not.  Brilliant!  Feedback?  He may join this site soon.  He's a great rider and an expert mechanic.  He should join right?
cardinal guzman

C'mon Mark! What have you got to lose but time? Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
CapeRoadie

cardinal guzman wrote:
Hi Cape,

I suspected as much on the SUV front - you're more polite than my mate who's standard response is; "fuck off you hippy shitbag" Wink

A more nervous cyclist than mrs Guz has yet to be born - when she goes downhill it's so slow you need timelapse to see any movement at all, but she did manage to trust me that clipless is easier to release and clip into, and she hasn't looked back since! (she can't actually look back without falling off Rolling Eyes )


Hi Mr. Guz,

Laughing  I'm trying to be nicer here at justcycling  Wink

Clipless is the only way to go if you're going to be a little racer... good story!
CapeRoadie

berck wrote:
My suggestion to people who are using clipless pedals for the first time is this...

Pretend they are ski bindings. You pop out of the side of ski binds like you have to with pedals to get out in a hurry.

I also suggest riding up to curbs and pop out to rest the nearest foot on the curb.

FYI: Cape's Madone looks even better in real life. Smile


ski bindings..well, she does ski... I'll definitely mention it...
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
I have to say I think the fixed is the 'best looking' bike of the bunch ... but its certainly a nice stable.


I agree, although the Trek is pretty cool.  Anyway, I've been saying I'd post pics and never got around to it.  So there you are.
paperman

And very nice pics they are too Cape. The trek is a beauty. Can I have it?? Bartali won't give me his Parlee. Laughing I gotta get something. That car/ truck thing is massive!!!!!!!!! Looking at the wheels of your trek next to it. Must be fun paying to fill the tank on that, although   fuel is cheap in the states. I'm sure you pay elsewhere but petrol is a steal.!!!! Laughing

You still convinced of the extra speed you get from the trek? Or was it more riding harder on the new bike because you were buzzin with it??????
CapeRoadie

paperman wrote:
And very nice pics they are too Cape. The trek is a beauty. Can I have it?? Bartali won't give me his Parlee. Laughing I gotta get something. That car/ truck thing is massive!!!!!!!!! Looking at the wheels of your trek next to it. Must be fun paying to fill the tank on that, although   fuel is cheap in the states. I'm sure you pay elsewhere but petrol is a steal.!!!! Laughing

You still convinced of the extra speed you get from the trek? Or was it more riding harder on the new bike because you were buzzin with it??????


Thanks.  You can't have my Trek.  Yes it is a faster bike!  It wants to go forward, and there is a big difference between my Trek 5200 and the new Madone 6.9 on that score.  When I rode no-hands on the 5200, or when I was on a fast descent, it was much more unstable.  Descending the backside of Sierra Rd. two weeks ago in San Jose, I had no shimmying of the new bike, but with the old I had to press my inner knees against the frame to absorb the vibrations and stop the shimmying.  Made for a scary descent.  And since I really like to descend (the alpine skiier in me), the new bike is a joy.

I once pumped up one of the tires on the truck with my bike pump; it took about 20 minutes at full speed!  It was a workout.
CapeRoadie

thunderthighs wrote:
the bikes are ok.. i like Gitane too.. that truck was a steal... bianchi never road latest type...but my friend who rode worlds junior in 87.. rode his...its a monster..

ciao


You see?  I have a conscience.  The Bianchi really is a little work of art.  At night, when the kids are asleep, I take it out of the box and look at it.  One thing about the Gitane:  it's heavier than the total weight of my Trek and the Bianchi together!
paperman

CapeRoadie wrote:
paperman wrote:
And very nice pics they are too Cape. The trek is a beauty. Can I have it?? Bartali won't give me his Parlee. Laughing I gotta get something. That car/ truck thing is massive!!!!!!!!! Looking at the wheels of your trek next to it. Must be fun paying to fill the tank on that, although   fuel is cheap in the states. I'm sure you pay elsewhere but petrol is a steal.!!!! Laughing

You still convinced of the extra speed you get from the trek? Or was it more riding harder on the new bike because you were buzzin with it??????


Thanks.  You can't have my Trek.  Yes it is a faster bike!  It wants to go forward, and there is a big difference between my Trek 5200 and the new Madone 6.9 on that score.  When I rode no-hands on the 5200, or when I was on a fast descent, it was much more unstable.  Descending the backside of Sierra Rd. two weeks ago in San Jose, I had no shimmying of the new bike, but with the old I had to press my inner knees against the frame to absorb the vibrations and stop the shimmying.  Made for a scary descent.  And since I really like to descend (the alpine skiier in me), the new bike is a joy.

I once pumped up one of the tires on the truck with my bike pump; it took about 20 minutes at full speed!  It was a workout.



Ahhhh yer ok thanks anyway. I'm gettin my money today/tomorrow. I'm a little long finger on it but then I just bought a new motorcycle last week so the bicycle is more expense. I'm gettin a Soloist Carbon with Dura ace everything. And one of those 'bomb proof' bike boxes...think Bartali was talking about the same model I've choosen. Took a while but I got there.
CapeRoadie

Enjoy the ride!  Cervelo is a great bike!
Bartali

Excellent news!  Please post pics paperman.  I hear good things about Cervelo and I can certainly recommend the box.  Soft bike bags are ok for indestructable mtbs (maybe), but I wouldn't trust them with a carbon road bike!!
Biosphere

CapeRoadie wrote:

I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.


Cape
Is it worth the effort with your winters and northerly latitude? Interested in hearing what you conclude.

Paperman
For some reason the oversized bottom bracket of the Cervelo caught my eye whilst watching the ToC. Subsequently spent  half an hour looking round the web site. Beautiful bikes and I was left wanting one quite badly - but I guess that's the point of the website Laughing Enjoy.
CapeRoadie

Biosphere wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:

I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.


Cape
Is it worth the effort with your winters and northerly latitude? Interested in hearing what you conclude.


More detail later, but the short answer is yes.  It's apparently less of an issue than it was in years past.
Monty28

CapeRoadie wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:

I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.


Cape
Is it worth the effort with your winters and northerly latitude? Interested in hearing what you conclude.


More detail later, but the short answer is yes.  It's apparently less of an issue than it was in years past.


Not sure what you mean by "northerly latitudes", Biosphere, but Cape Cod is roughly the same latitude as Barcelona (though I grant you the perception is that Barcelona might get more annual sunshine - and most certainly gets less winter snow!). Laughing  Laughing
CapeRoadie

You guys are warmer due to the Gulf Stream.  But global warming may change all that as the current slowly shifts...
Bartali

Look what I found in my loft.  This cost me a kings fortune in 1982 - well most of my student grant!  This is the bike I did all my racing on.  

Before any one has a go at me for the colour Wink its a special edition 'Battaglin Giro' built to honour Giovanni's Giro win in 1981.  I think there was a gold one too to celebrate his Vuelta win in the same year.









last km

Bartali, you must be pretty tall judging by the size of that frame.....by the way what does it say on the top tube, is it your "real" name ?
thunderthighs

bartali that bike is a beauty.. kinka tall for u, seat post reference..
super record all around.adn tubulars.. those were adn still is a good frame..

i met battaglin in 85 when he came to toronto.. headcase we DID not get along..

AND I CARE........

BATTAGLIN COSTED U  1800..BACK THEN ..CLOSE..


CIAO
Biosphere

Monty28 wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:

I'm looking into solar heating for the house at this very minute.


Cape
Is it worth the effort with your winters and northerly latitude? Interested in hearing what you conclude.


More detail later, but the short answer is yes.  It's apparently less of an issue than it was in years past.


Not sure what you mean by "northerly latitudes", Biosphere, but Cape Cod is roughly the same latitude as Barcelona (though I grant you the perception is that Barcelona might get more annual sunshine - and most certainly gets less winter snow!). Laughing  Laughing


Well it's northerly latitude rather than one of those southerly ones that Robbie Mc is used to  Laughing

Consulting the globe that usually resides about 1m from the PC (honestly) I'm surprised. I guess I should have consulted before the original post. Off the top of my head I had Cape being the same latitude as ourselves.

Leaving my buffoonery aside, I have a vision of snowy winters and I could picture the  panels being snowed under for a not insignificant amount of time.

That said, at the height of summer the incident solar radiation at noon in Boston is >90% of the equatorial noon so  that's a lot of potential sunshine! Assuming I haven't messed up those numbers either
Laughing
Bartali

last km wrote:
Bartali, you must be pretty tall judging by the size of that frame.....by the way what does it say on the top tube, is it your "real" name ?


In truth the frame is a tad too big - but mere mortals didn't no about professional sizing back in the day.  Well I didn't anyway.  Wink

On the top tube it says 'Battaglin Giro' on the left hand side and there's a 'Battaglin' signature on the right.  And for the record, Battaglin is not my real name! Wink
Bartali

thunderthighs wrote:
bartali that bike is a beauty.. kinka tall for u, seat post reference..
super record all around.adn tubulars.. those were adn still is a good frame..

i met battaglin in 85 when he came to toronto.. headcase we DID not get along..

AND I CARE........

BATTAGLIN COSTED U  1800..BACK THEN ..CLOSE..


CIAO


Headcase ... tell me more.  I don't know much about him other than those two grand tour wins in 1981.

Difficult to know how much it cost as I built it up bit by bit.  I think the frame was £199 or maybe £299 which was a lot of cash back then.  Got the receipt somewhere.  The Campag SR kit cost a fortune.  Chainset was around £100 I think.  I also had Super Rec pedals which were my pride and joy ... and Mavic GP4s built on campag hubs which aren't in the picture.

Can you post a pic of your Colnago Mexico?

Ahh ... steel frames ... they were the days.
thunderthighs

headcase.. really.. smartie pants morelike...

steel id real..

bartali.. is smoke still cumming out your ears...lol..

ciao
Bartali

Why smoke TT?  Do you think that was expensive?  All Italian frames cost a lot in the UK in the 1980s.  By the mid eighties a Pinarello or a Colnago would set you back £500 frame and folks only.
CapeRoadie

That's a gorgeous bike, Bartali.  I think you should race it again.
thunderthighs

bartali i know that ..my colnago frame/fork.. was 900 cad dollars in 85..
it casted me complete .. with gp4 rims like yours around 2100.. with shoes thrown in.. Look blue label like hinault used.. they were awesome...

i shined my hubs with metal shine, they glow...Blue Magic..

i use clement seta..for my pro-am... at queens park.. in toronto

hravery lenard nitz won.. i finished near the back.. average that 51.600

try that..
Bartali

That would be about right.  A top end Colnago like yours would have been about £600 in 1985 - which would have been about 950 CAD dollars.

Sounds slick - any photos?

You are one fast dude TT.  I'm not fast, but the hills are my play ground.  Not in your class though!!
thunderthighs

i hate those fucken hills...SPRINTER... but an uphill tt i go like wind.. in a race i fall liek a stone threw water... ciao
Bartali

I'm clearly in a reflective mood.  Popped in to see my folks up North today and picked up my first road bike (frame).  Picture this ... 10 years old and your dad buys you a pocket sized 18" 531 beauty like this.  I think it was made to exhibit in the Harrogate cycle show in (perhaps) 1975.

I wanted a Bianchi like Gimondi rode (only a lot smaller) - but I grew to love my curly lugs!







Biosphere

Bartali wrote:
. . . Popped in to see my folks up North today . . .


Took the private jet out for a burn then?  Laughing

Love the detailing at the joints. All in all it looks very like a classic from another era. The impact of carbon/computers/aerodynamics/etc. has had a huge impact on bike design in recent years, but part of me wonders how much of it is just eye candy to part us from our cash?

What's with the rear wheel "positioners" on the drop outs? I've never seen anything like that before.
CapeRoadie

Beautiful frame, Bartali!  The lugs and brazing is gorgeous!  You were a lucky little boy once!  I hope one day my daughters look back at their bikes like you do.
thunderthighs

nice frame.. ciao
last km

Biosphere wrote:


What's with the rear wheel "positioners" on the drop outs? I've never seen anything like that before.


In the "old days" they were for accuratley positioning your rear wheel and to assist making a quick change. You young uns know nowt  Wink
Biosphere

last km wrote:

In the "old days" they were for accurately positioning your rear wheel and to assist making a quick change. You young uns know nowt  Wink


OK, I was thinking it would be something like that. Now my next stupid question Very Happy Why have such a long "travel" on the dropouts? Why not just shorten them and have the wheel slot all the way in and be positioned that way? Like today's models? Or the front wheel on the bike in question?
last km

If only we knew then what we know now eh ???
thunderthighs

those stop in the drop-outs was to move you wheel aheasd..so the wheel base was shorter when doing a critirium, and slighlty backed off when the road season begins.  my colnago has it...ciao
Biosphere

TT - you're a genius  Laughing
last km

thunderthighs wrote:
those stop in the drop-outs was to move you wheel aheasd..so the wheel base was shorter when doing a critirium, and slighlty backed off when the road season begins.  my colnago has it...ciao


You are older than you appear TT  Wink
Bartali

... and my Battaglin if you look closely.
thunderthighs

thats why iam a good rider..young in body.. old in brain....

YOU PEOPLE ARE HACKS !!!!!!!!!!

CIAO
paperman

TT you're so nice. Always a pleasure readin your posts. Laughing
thunderthighs

paperman..there may be a ray of hope for you..ciao
Biosphere

Not that anybody other than Cape will care, but looking back at Bartali's Battaglin I saw my post about solar energy. Thinking about it again it was obvious that I messed up my numbers (as predicted .  Laughing ). At the eight of summer and assuming clear sky, Boston has a higher rate of incident solar energy than the equator!
paperman

Biosphere: Aren't people in England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales 'investing' in solar energy for their homes....I would be very interested to hear how it goes for those 'investors'. I was reading your post about recent bike design, eye candy, and partin us from our cash (coming from the guy who bought the cervelo solist carbon....Its the 'aerodynamic' one). I bear this in mind as I consider how wise it is of someone in this part of the world to invest in or maek use of solar energy systems!!! Is it all just another con?. Costs a packet, ultimately saves you very little!! I should say this is me being a cynic, because I can be very cynical, funnily enough my cynicism often proves correct.....What I know about such systems, you could write on the back of a stamp!

Bartali: That frame looks good. Nice looking job, you going to do anything with it?
Biosphere

Paperman

I posted a while back about spending half an hour browsing the Cervelo website and I thought the bikes looked beautiful and I'd more than quite happily own one Very Happy You had it out for a ride yet?

The solar energy thing all depends on how you look at it. Solar thermal (heating water directly) is reasonably efficient and doesn't use expensive semiconductors. On the other hand, solar voltaic (generating electricity) does use the expensive stuff (think of the old Intel adds with the lab monkeys in the "spacesuits") and is quite inefficient. Depending on the level of government grants people investing at the moment may have to wait a long time to see a benefit in their own pockets. However, it stimulates the industry and gets us closer to the holy grail of cheap "printed" solar voltaic panels that can be rolled out on a roof and installed easily. Think of those "investing" now as altruists Very Happy

You've now got me thinking about future foreign policy meddling in equatorial countries for their sunshine!!
paperman

I though about that too......heheheheheheheh! The water being partially heated for you is good since it does use a considerabele amount of energy to heat water......I'm thinkin shower/ immersion.
I reckon people investing now will wait a very long time to see the benefit in their own pockets....by which time I doubt they will notice it.

Bike:
Yep I saw your post on the bike, I was being sarcastic then....yes its beautiful to look at. I rode one up and down the road, but not a real test ride!!!! I collected it yesterday, since then it has been raining non stop!!!!!!! Typical....!!!!!!???? Rolling Eyes
I'm riding with a group tomorrow so won't take the Cervelo then. The bike will only see dry weather for a few months at least, when It does I'll let you know how it is to ride. Something tells me it'll be really good.......I just wish the weather would break.  Wink
Biosphere

Sorry everyone for ruining the lovely pictures of bikes thread, but Ireland weren't very much fun to watch today, so having failed at my first two attempts at the subject, I ended up thinking about solar power and latitudes trying to finally get it right.

On the minimal chance that anyone's interested, the graph shows the energy in "clear sky" noon sunshine at Quito, Boston and Dublin as a % of the maximum possible.



No doubt it's wrong but when I realise that I promise I'll keep my 4th attempt to myself  Laughing
Jackov

Are equatorial regions the best? They seem a bit cloudy. Just north and south of these regions might get more sunshine.
 
If the US wanted to, I think all its energy needs could be met with the sunshine the deserts of the south west.
 
I'm a fan of things like Solar two.
 
  (alt+p)
 

 
headwind

Hi All, jsut back from a big conference and field trip to the Mojave...my home stomping grounds.  Was in Barstow doing some geology and S1/2 are just east of barstow.  man im telling ya...theres lots of sun there!! that top on the central tower is so friggin bright it makes staring into the sun a treat! So here we are in the middle of this area by barstow looking at the rocks and low-n-behold we find a military ammo box completely filled with high explosives.  the box was still sealed with a lead wire and marked woth DOD stamps etc.  We ended up calling the San Bernardino County sherrif's who wanted to go out there with us in the middle of the night, though hesitant we complied.  Odd...someone from teh nearby Army base is in deep shit  I imagine.

hw
CapeRoadie

Glad you didn't detonate the contents of your non-geologic find, hw!
thunderthighs

reason why america is only 1% renewable is dick chenney and his wife is a scarey lot.. but solar is the way to go.. america is in major trouble with no fix..

ciao
cardinal guzman

http://www.wentworth.nsw.gov.au/solartower/

I always thought wentworth was a made-up name for cell block H!

Wait till the fractal dimensions on Photovoltaic panels really get ramped up - we might even get enough power to only need personal microgeneration - all the power you need in a baseball cap peak! Bad business for Enron - I imagine they can't buy patents fast enough these days.
cardinal guzman

Today, I made a trip to Leyland that I've been planning for some weeks now. As a result, by the end of July I ought to have taken posession of one of these in blue....



I'm quite excited!  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
headwind

Nice CG!!
last km

cardinal guzman wrote:
Today, I made a trip to Leyland that I've been planning for some weeks now. As a result, by the end of July I ought to have taken posession of one of these in blue....



I'm quite excited!  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy


CG how did you get along with PH he's a strange guy, dont think I ever saw him smile any time I was in his shop? I used to work 5mins walk from his shop and used to pop in from time to time.........
cardinal guzman

Cheers HW! Smile

last km wrote:
CG how did you get along with PH he's a strange guy, dont think I ever saw him smile any time I was in his shop? I used to work 5mins walk from his shop and used to pop in from time to time.........


I know what you mean, he was very earnest! But he did smile once or twice in the face of my relentless chirpiness! Biggest smile was when I mentioned people buying an off the shelf bike for £4500! I'm assuming it was the PH equivalent of a belly-laugh! Cool  Laughing I had a real sense that I'd met or seen him before, but can't think how this could possibly be true.

Anyway, he had me on the bike jig and talked me through the measuring process and what was important and why, then through choosing the parts and finally the all-important colour! It took me an hour and a half from walking into the shop and saying hello, to walking out again with a works order in my wallet and a real sense that I was buying absolutely the perfect bike for me, a bike for life!
last km

PH used to run a Deeside Cyles shop in Coppull near Chorley which eventually closed down, he then started his own shop in Leyland.

His hand built wheels are supposed to be ok , however I had Bill Nickson build a pair for me for racing (he's also in Leyland) they were bullet proof.
chasm

cardinal guzman wrote:





The stem on the pictured bike seems extraordinarily long.
CapeRoadie

Some stems are longer than others...  Wink
cardinal guzman

It's amazing what an extra few mm out front can do for your breathing and back!
Bartali

Nice!  Is thst a san marco Rolls saddle?
chasm

cardinal guzman wrote:
It's amazing what an extra few mm out front can do for your breathing and back!


Hmm, maybe. Personally I think that an extra long stem probably means that the rider needed a bigger frame. Unless he has disproportionately short legs, of course.
cardinal guzman

Bartali wrote:
Nice!  Is thst a san marco Rolls saddle?


Ta! Smile I think so - but mine won't have one, It's taken me ages to get me Brooks mybum-shaped!   Laughing

Chasm, I can't pretend to know what I'm talking about, but I'll be on an XL frame and still have a big overhang at the front because I do have disproportionately short legs, or rather a looong body and arms!  Laughing
maffy

Bartali wrote:
Nice!  Is thst a san marco Rolls saddle?


looks like it. for some reason i always liked turbos more myself, but they were probably cheaper.

chasm wrote:
cardinal guzman wrote:
It's amazing what an extra few mm out front can do for your breathing and back!


Hmm, maybe. Personally I think that an extra long stem probably means that the rider needed a bigger frame. Unless he has disproportionately short legs, of course.


hey, i've got those legs. shoulda been a wicket keeper or a rugby league player. if only i could catch or was fond of thumping other people.

did i mention my theory about really successful cyclists having big long anglo-saxon-type feet?

nice looking bike btw cg. i'd have gone for the black, but my bike-for-ever is orange, so what do i know?
cardinal guzman

lol, I've got wide hairy hobbit feet and a great big thick hamstring.

I nearly went for orange! Decided the bike was enough to live up to on the road without it! Wink
thunderthighs

nice bike to jam around ...ciao
sheeponabike

cg - what chainwheel sizes are they?
or will yours be different?
Bartali

maffy wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Nice!  Is thst a san marco Rolls saddle?


looks like it. for some reason i always liked turbos more myself, but they were probably cheaper.


I liked the Turbo too ... think it was because 'the Badger' rode one.  Back in the day I had a San Marco Concor.  Loved it and it's still on my 80's steel steed.
chasm

Well, since we're on the subject of our next purchase, I'm visiting Dave Yates next month to commission him to build me an audax bike. Here's the model:



It'll sit nicely between my road bike and the tourer, and I suspect it will become the bike I use for sportives. Nice looking, don't you think? And steel. Still nothing to beat steel.

For those of you who don't know about Dave, here's his website. He'll teach you to build your own frame (under his supervision) if you want.

http://www.daveyatescycles.co.uk
cardinal guzman

sheeponabike wrote:
cg - what chainwheel sizes are they?
or will yours be different?


I don't know what the chain sizes in the picture are, but mine will be 30, 39 and 50.

Lovely looking bike Chasm! I thought about doing a yates building course - but I'm too cackhanded and would just build a right jalopy! Smile

Cheers TT! Cool
Bartali

Spent an hour on my new fixie this afternoon.  Dam hard work riding a fixed gear in the Chilterns!  Anyway ... I like my new bike!!

Not totally happy with the saddle or the cockpit.  Bought a white 1980's Concor off ebay (anyone remember them) and will switch the front end to silver Cinelli and drilled super record levers for that 'old school' look.









CapeRoadie

Sweet, Bartali!  How were the downhills?  Wink

What's the gearing on that?  And what's with the rear brake?
maffy

it's looking lovely, bartali. you must have been chomping at the bit to have gone out to play in the rain Smile
Bartali

Thanks guys!

If you life in the Chilterns you need two brakes.  Also, if its drilled for one it should have one in my book.  Gears about 65" - which is low enough to climb on, but hard enough to make it hurt. (19x44)

Ah ... the downhills!  Lets say they were an experience!
sheeponabike

Fabulous bike Bartali!

I've gone all Italian too. Been looking for a steel frame to restore for a while now. Finally got hold of this 58cm Faggin with Colnago forks. Paintwork was a bit tatty so I sprayed it up. Quite pleased with the result. Just need to build it up now.
Anyone got a nice pair of wheels they don't want? Wink

Bartali

No wheels, but I have a pair of 44cm Cinelli Bars (model 66 or 65?)  - new old stock.  You can have em for free if there any good to you.
sheeponabike

That's a very generous offer Bartali, and they would obviously look fantastic. Trouble is I've got a modern Campag groupset and would have to run the cables along the bars without those grooves. Would that be possible? Wouldn't it be too bulky?
sheeponabike

Further to the handlebar saga, I've started cleaning up the components that came with the bike and mounting them back on the frame. It's looking great by the way.
Anyroad I've discovered that these are the bars I've got - feel dead chuffed.  Very Happy
http://www.brauns.com/gc/gc_item....0-%20Road%20-%20Aluminum&Z9=0
CapeRoadie

sheeponabike wrote:
Further to the handlebar saga, I've started cleaning up the components that came with the bike and mounting them back on the frame. It's looking great by the way.
Anyroad I've discovered that these are the bars I've got - feel dead chuffed.  Very Happy
http://www.brauns.com/gc/gc_item....0-%20Road%20-%20Aluminum&Z9=0


Definitely post some pics when you can, sheep.  Sounds like a fun project!
thunderthighs

Bartali wrote:
Spent an hour on my new fixie this afternoon.  Dam hard work riding a fixed gear in the Chilterns!  Anyway ... I like my new bike!!

Not totally happy with the saddle or the cockpit.  Bought a white 1980's Concor off ebay (anyone remember them) and will switch the front end to silver Cinelli and drilled super record levers for that 'old school' look.





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thats a real bike.. treat her nice !!!! ciao



Jeff Malkmus

I took inventory in my basement the other day.  This is what I have:

Giant Rincon Mtb from early 90s
1980s BCA Touring bike
1997 Raleigh R700
Cannondale CAAD5 (with Cipo's stomach muscles on the top tube)
Late 90s Serrota Legend
Cannondale Six13 (from the first year, i.e, the version that breaks in half; which coincidently happened to mine)
Tiemeyer
Cannondale SystemSix (in one piece)

I don't know how I accumulated all of these.  Its pretty amazing since I've had two bikes stolen in the last two years.
Bartali

Jeff .... you get one, then another ..... then they breed!!! Wink

I'm on six(ish) and counting ...

1980's Battaglin Giro
Cove Stiffie MTB
Giant (cheapo version) attached to turbo
Parlee Z3SL
Colnago fixed
Litespeed Ghisallo in bits (a long story)
forza_petacchi

Guys & gals-
I didn't want to start a new thread, but does anyone have any opinions about stems/bars/seatposts from Deda, FSA, or Thomson (or any others)?  I want some 31.8mm alloy bars with a flat top and maybe a new alloy stem & post (post may be carbon or alloy, I don't have issues with carbon posts).  Thanks.
CapeRoadie

forza_petacchi wrote:
Guys & gals-
I didn't want to start a new thread, but does anyone have any opinions about stems/bars/seatposts from Deda, FSA, or Thomson (or any others)?  I want some 31.8mm alloy bars with a flat top and maybe a new alloy stem & post (post may be carbon or alloy, I don't have issues with carbon posts).  Thanks.


Deda bars--excellent.
Thomson stems--excellent.
FSA don't know about but they make excellent cranks.
Bartali

Forza - I don't think you can go wrong with any of the kit you mention.  It's all very good from what I see / hear.  Personally I don't like the Thomson post/stem purely on looks - but there is no doubt IMHO that it is well made.  Deda have a great reputation at the moment (and will give you the option to go silver or dark metal - as will Thomson).

What frame / saddle are you mounting them on ... and what sort of riding are you doing?

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