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The Cobblestone Fantasy Cycling League

Unlike the NRT game the Cobblestone League runs through the year and covers a myriad of World Tour and Pro Conti races through the cycling season. One warning it can be high maintenance.

http://cobblestone.be/

(if possible can one of the Cobblestone regulars write some basic instructions for how the site and game works these days, I don't play Cobblestone.....cheers  Donald)
Fontfroide

I am happy to start.  Maffy or Gerry can fill in.  Or disagree.

You pick your team from eleven categories of riders, only one from each category.  The first category is "the top five" or so riders on earth.  How they end up in this category I don't know exactly.  But they might be the top five on some ranking system from the previous year, maybe UCI, maybe another one.  Category Two is the next ten or so, and so on to the last category which is "everyone not in the top ten categories".  You get one and only one ride from each category.  Sprinters, Stage Racers, Puncheurs, all mixed together.

You are allowed to change your team many times during the year.  A quick glance at the Calendar of races for the year, shows you when.  You can change 16 times this season.  Frankly, it is hard work changing teams 16 times, keeping track of deadlines.  Partly because there is often more than one important race during each period, and you have to decide how to distribute riders.  You also have to continually check who exactly is riding which race.  Sometimes when you have a deadline, you have no really accurate idea who exactly is riding a race later during that period, so its hard to pick a good team.  For me this is a negative feature.  Alongside having to pick sixteen different teams sometimes only a week or two apart.  

Of course you have to pick well, so if you look at the standings, Maffy chose very well for the Tour Down Under, and Gerry chose pretty well, and I was a disaster.  Even though it was only one race, I still messed up.  Still, seeing how badly or well you do is a feature of any fantasy league.

Points are awarded for the first ten places or so in every stage or every race, with points varying according to the "importance" of the race.  For first place in a Classic, semi classic or "important" one day race gives you 400, 240 and 175 respectively.  You have to compose your team knowing that in the same time period there are races of varying importance.

During one period this year, you have to choose, before Amstel Gold starts, teams for Fleche, Trentino and Paris Roubaix as well.  It is a certainty you won't know which riders are riding in all those races before the Amstel starts.  After the Tour, you have to choose riders for races all the way to the end of August, deadline 26 July.

Hmm, must be something else.  You can check on standings for your teams in Classics, Grand Tours, not so Grand Tours, semi-classics and the other categories at any time during the year.  So if you can't beat Maffy throughout the entire year, you can still whup his ass for a Grand Tour, or the Classics as a whole or even in one race.

There are very few who play from JC, but 376 registered for this year.  About half or so will stick with it all year, week in week out.

Over to the others.
gerry12ie

I think you have covered just about everything there, FF.  It was good to see the results updated daily for TDU but the rider lists and teams are still a bit patchy.  The important thing is to keep an eye on the calendar to make sure you prepare your team in time for the switch.
Slapshot 3

Thanks Gents, appreciated
Nolte

the riders rankings is based on cq ranking.

i've picked Nolte Racing, how do i put it in the subleague?
Fontfroide

Nolte wrote:
the riders rankings is based on cq ranking.

i've picked Nolte Racing, how do i put it in the subleague?


PM Maffy.
Nolte

thanks
gerry12ie

Cobblestone change coming up at the weekend
Fontfroide

I'm ready.
gerry12ie

You were born ready
Nolte

ok i am bothered to change it for a second time.
the success of being the best one in our mini league for the clasica almeria Very Happy
gerry12ie

Just checked my team and was pleasantly surprised that I had the foresight to pick both Moser and Kadri who both had excellent weekends.  I was somewhat less pleasant when I realised that Cobblestone didn't include either of the Italian races in their calendar...
maffy

good picks gerry Smile
i failed to line up at the start of the cyclingfever worldtour comp this year when i forgot to save all the spurters i'd picked earlier in the week.

underpopulated sub league standings after p-n
1 1029 Treize Vents [Fontfroide]
2 1008 -21 almaty [maffy]
3 791 -238 Rockers Uptown [Gerry]
4 488 -541 The Laughing Group [John]
5 377 -652 Nolte Racing [Philip]
Nolte

wow, i'm in the top 5 Smile
JohnD

Hehe Nick, we need to team up somehow to catch FF
Fontfroide

Be patient, that will work fine.  

The best I can ever do is finish second to Maffy, or as last year, as I recollect, third to Gerry, maybe even fourth.  But it is true, after a totally disastrous team for Tour Down Under (full of sprinters for some reason), I did rather well for the last few days.

I can't even find one rider for two categories in the nest set of races.  Nobody seems any good.
JohnD

I'm dreading picking for the next set but i do like the homework aspect of it so far.  Cobblestone and FP have forced me to look at teams rosters and try to judge the 'horses for courses' aspect although it's a steep learning curve for me.
Fontfroide

JohnD wrote:
I'm dreading picking for the next set but i do like the homework aspect of it so far.  Cobblestone and FP have forced me to look at teams rosters and try to judge the 'horses for courses' aspect although it's a steep learning curve for me.


When I started some years ago, I found it hard work keeping up.  And like you, I discovered races I didn't even know existed.  Still not very good at picking winners, I blame it on bad memory at my age.  On the other hand, my middle of the pack tendencies on any league of guessers maybe represents my knowledge and skill.  Nice thing about picking is that you are either right or wrong, no debates, you pick it or you don't.  A bit like those quizzes in that sense.  Refreshing side of life, which is mostly full of grey areas and endless unresolved discussions about important things, which are never right or wrong.  Picking who wins a cycle race is simple.
JohnD

Yes, no grey areas - sink or swim with the picks!  The other thing with Cobblestone is spreading your team picks to cover the races for the period which does narrow things down a bit in there too.  It's good stuff though, homework i can enjoy!
gerry12ie

Anyone doing the velogames classics game?
http://www.velogames.com/spring-c...68&league=14222816&slot=1

Yet another game, more decisions...
Nolte

that was hard switch with the three races, dwars, milan san remo and catalunya. its hard not to focus towards one particular race.
Fontfroide

Worse to come.

I just did two.
Nolte

hehe, i had ciolek. didn't have cancellarra though.
JohnD

damn good pick!
Nolte

4 hours 18 minutes to the next team switch
maffy

hmm. it was about 1hr 12mins to go last swapsies when i changed ciolek for jeannesson. the lad had better go off on one like edet and dmartin have, or i'll be slightly ever so slightly miffed.
JohnD

That was a pretty tough selection with the four races to think about.  After back & forth cross-checking on the available startlists, I ended up with what looks a pretty good team on the sidebar that will no doubt let me down spectacularly!
Fontfroide

I get a bit less than happy and feel like I am not having much 'fun' at this time of year.  Took me ages to figure out who was riding and who I fancied for Tour of Catalonia and for some muddy semi-classic, E3 I guess.  then suddenly, while the Catalonia is still going, I have to ditch some of those guys to deal with Flanders and and P-R.  Which of course are not the only races going and I don't know how the points get awarded anyway.  Not exactly.  I would like it better if we had a "beginning of the seasons in foreign lands" team, followed by a "Paris Nice and TR team", then a muddy classics team, then the various small Tours, then the big ones.  This switching every week makes it hard to keep up, above all with exactly who is riding what races.  withdrawals, injuries, who is "just training" …  It is the time I really like Neal's game which is only the big Tours.

I played a game once, for one year, where you could change members of your team at will, within certain price limits.  But it is way more realistic to have a team and stick with it for a bit longer.  

Still, I always say this and I always try to keep up.  And I always miss some deadline and fail to score points with my sprinters in a hilly race.  More likely I just make mediocre picks, as I seem to have done lately, dripping like a stone to fourth place out of five.  I really am aiming for second place and will be happy with third, but fourth is quite poor.  I am not good with one day races, over the years I have seen that.
Fontfroide

My currently active team.  For a few days!!

Sagan Peter
Boasson Hagen Edvald
Cancellara Fabian
Phinney Taylor
Quintana Rojas Nairo Alexander
Gallopin Tony
Kelderman Wilco
Slagter Tom Jelte
Petacchi Alessandro
Vansummeren Johan
Hushovd Thor
JohnD

They said that the picks you made for the Tour of Catalunya would remain in place for the whole of that tour, with your new team selection just being for the 4 new races.

Quote:
....exactly who is riding what races.  withdrawals, injuries, who is "just training"...


The above is a nightmare, feels like hard work!  I use this site and made selecting for the races on now a little easier:

http://www.procyclingstats.com/

Your selection looks pretty good to me, good selection of Classic faves there.

My selection is now:

Sagan Peter
Froome Chris
Cancellara Fabian
Gesink Robert
Porte Richie
Pozzato Filippo
Wegmann Fabian
Gatto Oscar
Petacchi Alessandro
Ciolek Gerald
Thomas Geraint

Some i have no idea why i picked them but it's difficult to resist the temptation to just make up the numbers.
Fontfroide

JohnD wrote:
They said that the picks you made for the Tour of Catalunya would remain in place for the whole of that tour, with your new team selection just being for the 4 new races.



For example, I somehow missed that rule.  Left Quintana in, to cover myself, and I could have had someone else who is actually riding those classics.  Goss, for example.  Oh well.
Fontfroide

Anyone know how you can find out exactly what points you got for a particular race or day in a longer race?  I thought I wold be doing a bit better having picked first and second for the E3, but maybe I am dreaming.
gerry12ie

FF - Players results then filter by race.  You got 886 points for E3 but Nolte got a rather splendid 1414, which was even more than resbandit Maffy got (1342).  Your massive haul was fourth last out of 5 and the only person you beat for E3 was me.

And I'm shit. Wink
Fontfroide

Thanks Gerry.  Now I can keep up.

I foolishly figured that since I did "well" picking first, second and change, then how could anyone do "better", relegating me to a distant fourth.  Foolish, arrogant guy that lurks beneath my modest surface!  I really am not really that good, what I would call mediocre,  at this team in a league thing.  Partly because I don't actually have a pal I can discuss things with.  I read quite a bit.  It all goes on in my head.  Not a single cyclist (or sports enthusiast) that I know around here would waste their time in a small group of unknown people competing to see who can pick winners in bike races (full of doped up cyclists, they would add).  I am convinced that if I had a pal I met for a coffee regularly, my strange version of professional cycling races would be better.  Instead I do this strange practice with four blokes, most likely I will never meet, who I would not recognise on the street.

Anyway, it is fun competing with you guys, but hard to keep it going all year.  One day I will make an announcement, "I retire, can't handle the pressure".  Still, we do what we can.  Am I an addict?
Nolte

Fontfroide wrote:
Anyone know how you can find out exactly what points you got for a particular race or day in a longer race?  I thought I wold be doing a bit better having picked first and second for the E3, but maybe I am dreaming.


the points scale is http://cobblestone.be/index.php/rules/points/dayraces

e3 due to favouritism of the guy running the site scored double points Smile
Fontfroide

Right, Nolte, got it printed out and posted above my puter.

Fortified by these tips, I am ready to rock.
maffy

i like johnd's cross-bernie picture. it'd been my desktop on the laptop for the last couple of years until i tried to chuck out an apple studio display 21crt that i accidentally tested and found that it worked again for half an hour yesterday.

it appears fearlessnolteshark is picking all the cast iron faves secretly, and doing rather well out of it. only hanging on by the skin of my earlygatto.

last thursday's current non-canc rule14 team:
Sagan Peter
Boasson Hagen Edvald
Chavanel Sylvain
Kristoff Alexander
Bennati Daniele
Turgot Sébastien
Bak Lars Ytting
Breschel Matti
Stybar Zdenek
Oss Daniel
Thomas Geraint

with boonen's crash, sylvchav may let up at dddp for later efforts. which was a badly canculcated risk, given the fact that faburama doesn't give a flying buffalo mozzarella about g-w. still, smugyounglaurent's still smiling on top for bit of a while longer.

dunno why you don't like this utterly bestiest time of year ff, even if it's snowing it's proper fascinating brilliant. i'll pop round for a ride and a cup of tea if i ever get down your way. probably complain about it being too hot anarl.
Fontfroide

Its not that I don't like this time of year for cycling races  I love it for cycling races.  

What I don't like is the constant team changes in this cycling game, and the fact that I don't really get how the system works.  I could try harder, but I grow seriously weary of new instructions for a new gadget or for a new game.  And it seems that I am constantly making a new team for a new set of races, including some I have never heard of and don't even care about.  I don't like it because the weather is not quite good enough for  fair weather cyclist like me, but I can sniff the spring in the air.

For the cycling races on TV, if I didn't have to pick a team, I love it.

I should probably just stop this game and concentrate on the other one, where you pick a team for the duration of a Grand Tour.  And just see how it works.

Current team.
Sagan Peter
Boasson Hagen Edvald
Cancellara Fabian
Phinney Taylor
Goss Matthew
Turgot Sébastien
Bozic Borut
Vanmarcke Sep
Petacchi Alessandro
Vansummeren Johan
Hushovd Thor
gerry12ie

I think it says alot for the strength of our little league that I got a podium (third) overall for Paris-Roubaix with 1172 points (no prizes for guessing who was fourth, it was indeed the mighty Maffy) and scored 960 points for RVV and can't even get off the bottom of our league!  I see that our runaway leader Maffy is 16th overall in Cobblestone so I really hope he can go on and do a Slapshot, and take the whole thing.

*I am however killing the boards.ie league in Velogames Very Happy
Fontfroide

I knew you guys seem to score many points more than me, but I didn't realise that you both had done such a good job on the cobbles in the overall league.  Nice choices.  

You will never beat Maffy, but I am quite sure you will lift off the bottom.  Oh.  That leaves me there.  Better score some points fast.
JohnD

There's a breakaway up the road with Maffy & Nolte, and the peleton of Gerry, FF and myself.  You guys all scored real big points on Paris-Roubaix, shows that just having the winner on the 1 day races isn't enough to keep the pace!  Long way to go so still all to race for yet.

It's cool logging in and seeing one of our pics on the main front page; i'm going to change me pic Maffy, as much as love the Bernie pic i've got a really nice Bahamontes one to replace it with.
Nolte

JohnD wrote:
There's a breakaway up the road with Maffy & Nolte, and the peleton of Gerry, FF and myself.  You guys all scored real big points on Paris-Roubaix, shows that just having the winner on the 1 day races isn't enough to keep the pace!  Long way to go so still all to race for yet.


sadly maffy has put in some big digs to get rid of the wil e. coynolte.

just a remember a team switch is coming up which will take into account turkey, romandy, dunkirk and 1 day race in frankfurt although lbl is covered with the previous switch.
Fontfroide

Might I add that you are doing very well, Nolte.  Nice one.

But Maffy will win.
Nolte

thanks
gerry12ie

Well done FF!  Second overall LBL
Fontfroide

Thank you Gerry.  I hadn't even looked.

YESSS.

Real reaction… "Holy shit, how did I do that?"
Second reaction … "Well, uh, thanks, just the result of careful choices based on years of obsession with cycling."

Maybe this will move me up the ranks a bit, and one day I will threaten Maffy.  I am pretty good at Grand Tours.
Nolte

well done FF
Fontfroide

I don't know if you l can believe this, but I somehow picked Aidis Kuopis to win something in Turkey, when I couldn't figure out anyone else in that category.  My first blind luck pick that has won.  Usually I know the rider and he loses.  Could my luck be changing?  

You may win, Maffy, but watch your retroviseur.  Laughing
JohnD

You're hitting your stride FF!  Alas my internet went down on Friday and i planned to do the teamswitch on Saturday so i'm stuck with the last rounds team.
Fontfroide

Felicitations to Maffy, finishing first in the entire league for the Tour of Turkey Stage 4.  You gotta have Meersman, nice choice.
Biosphere

I have put together a team, but found it hard to judge how to weight for ToC especially as I can't find a start list. Figured 3 weeks of Giro probably dominates any other considerations. Half a season of training will not be a bad way of figuring out how to play game and the good news is that none of the existing players will now come on the bottom of the league Very Happy

Name is Ciottolo which I think is the Italian for Cobble.
Fontfroide

Don't know about the others, but I just forgot about the tour of California.  I doubt if I will follow it closely as how much can one do.  And I think it is worth a fair bit less than the Giro.  Personally I would rather take pleasure in Wiggo winning or podiuming, than Sagan winning stages.
JohnD

Good stuff Bio - don't count your chickens on coming last just yet, still thousands of points for me to fritter away with rubbish selections.

Here's the ToC startlist thus far, i've got at least one rider in there but that was luck rather than judgement hehehe

http://www.procyclingstats.com/ra...Tour-of-California-2013-Startlist
JohnD

Bio you're not showing in the JC league, you'll need to PM Maffy for the league ID to join
Biosphere

JohnD wrote:
Bio you're not showing in the JC league, you'll need to PM Maffy for the league ID to join


Thanks John. The request is in the system Smile
Fontfroide

At this exact moment, Gerry is tenth in the entire shebang for the Giro.  Yes!
gerry12ie

Very Happy  Very Happy

That won't last...
Fontfroide

Probably true, but one must seize the fleeting moments of glory.
JohnD

Nolte's top of first page for yesterdays ToC results!
Fontfroide

JohnD wrote:
Nolte's top of first page for yesterdays ToC results!


Nice one, good to open the page and see his name.
JohnD

I neglected it too FF, tho' i did pick Ciolek for the Bayern-Rundfahrt.

I did let myself down by picking Quintana, and moreso Petacchi!!!
Nolte

JohnD wrote:
Nolte's top of first page for yesterdays ToC results!


thanks. Smile it's all down to having tyler farrar in the team
Fontfroide

Just looked at standings and was amazed that I am on top for the Giro.  Still behind Almaty of course, but at the top.

What's amazing is that I did a rather poor job of choosing riders.  Four of my guys did not score a single point, Guarneri, Atapuma, Kwiatowski and Kruiswijk.  Ferrari only scored 6, so you can see my second line sprinters were a disaster.  No idea why I picked three even, two would have done.  All the other points were scored by my six who did pretty well.  Nibs and Cav and Wiggo must have been choices anyone could have made, and no doubt most of you did.  Betancur, Santambroggio and Scarponi were hardly choices of a genius with great knowledge.  I guess I know I must have got lucky.  I should think that in any game like this if half your team scores almost nothing, you should do badly.  Mind you, in terms of the overall league, I did do badly.  

One day I am going to get serious and try really hard to get it right.  Still, I do like the idea of picking a team and then just seeing how they do.
Fontfroide

Who is at the top of the standings for the Bayern Rundfurht today

NOLTE
JohnD

and Gerry's joint 4th!
Fontfroide

Now I see how I could do wellvin the Italian game, some of you actually had riders who were in other races.  Oh well, a hollow victory as I picked no one for any other race.
JohnD

My focus was on the Giro, but slightly blinded by who was riding and who was not hehehe!  I picked Ciolek who won a stage and Spilak who won me nowt!
Nolte

Fontfroide wrote:
Who is at the top of the standings for the Bayern Rundfurht today

NOLTE


i had geraint thomas in the team thinking either belgium or bayern  would suit him (i think any race without real mountain top finishes suit thomas) and i had jan barta thinking of the importance of bayern to netapp. and that is my 336 points.

but the guess work involved in the bayern, belgium and california races left my riders in the giro low (only nibali and wiggins).
Fontfroide

Nolte wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Who is at the top of the standings for the Bayern Rundfurht today

NOLTE


i had geraint thomas in the team thinking either belgium or bayern  would suit him (i think any race without real mountain top finishes suit thomas) and i had jan barta thinking of the importance of bayern to netapp. and that is my 336 points.

but the guess work involved in the bayern, belgium and california races left my riders in the giro low (only nibali and wiggins).


I decided on a rule which is if there are loads of races, only pick riders in the ones worth the highest points and only the ones that interest you a fair bit.  Ignore the rest.  So next time, in a day or two, I will only care about Suisse and Dauphine, and ignore the rest.
JohnD

Only three to concentrate on this teamswitch:


   2_X Critérium du Dauphiné
   2_X Tour de Suisse
   2_HC Skoda - Tour de Luxembourg

Was a good call on Barta Nolte & knowing the importance to NetApp!
Fontfroide

As if I can find out who is riding in the Tour of Luxembourg before Saturday night, or whenever the deadline is.
JohnD

Here's the rather sparse start list, hopefully will be updated some more before Saturday deadline

http://www.procyclingstats.com/ra...Tour-de-Luxembourg-2013-Startlist
Fontfroide

Rather sparse?  Like calling the Civil War in the USA slightly bloody.  the Startlists site also has a list about as long as that.  I think I am just going to forget about it, and do the other two races.  

I never realised how late teams can submit riders for a race, until I started doing this picking the teams lark.  I can see changing one or two riders at the last minute, but for some of these races you have no idea until a few days before the race.
JohnD

The slightly bloody startlist for the ToL remained the same so didn't bother with that either.  

Sagan Peter [Cannondale]
Contador Velasco Alberto [Team Saxo - Tinkoff]
Chavanel Sylvain [OmegaPharma - Quick Step]
Martin Daniel [Garmin - Sharp]
Porte Richie [Sky Procycling]
Meersman Gianni [OmegaPharma - Quick Step]
Kelderman Wilco [Blanco Pro Cycling]
Slagter Tom Jelte [Blanco Pro Cycling]
Klöden Andreas [Radioshack - Leopard]
Vansummeren Johan [Garmin - Sharp]
Thomas Geraint [Sky Procycling]
Fontfroide

Sagan, Froome, Van Garderen, Bouhanni, Talansky, Rolland, Pinot, Peraud, Kloden, Izagirre, Clement
maffy

that team worked out ok today for johnd Smile

do like that br-ff pic. much better than the blackenwhitewifcolourbitz photoshop panache travesties that he seems so fond of.

anybody know why skoda-lux shifted dates? previous years you'd hazard a guess at the suisse startlist from that one.
JohnD

blackenwhitewifcolourbitz

LOL - that's the precise description - the Bahamontes pic is the best i've seen on there.
Fontfroide

maffy wrote:
that team worked out ok today for johnd Smile



Just looked.  OK?  That is like calling the American Civil War ….  Bloody brilliant.  Being on top for one day is the best we can dream of.  Or even one race.  Makes your day in a small small way.
JohnD

It does FF, very nice suprise and it's 2 wins in a row overall for the JC Team!

I looked at your team selection yesterday and was thinking i should i have got Bouhanni in instead of Martin for slot 4 - ah well.
Fontfroide

JohnD wrote:
It does FF, very nice suprise and it's 2 wins in a row overall for the JC Team!

I looked at your team selection yesterday and was thinking i should i have got Bouhanni in instead of Martin for slot 4 - ah well.


Or you could have picked Talansky now eight minutes off the pace and ill.  Crying or Very sad

Actually although I don't know anyone else's picks, yours seem quite intelligent and thoughtful.  For example, it is not obvious if Bouhanni will have enough stages to express himself well anyway, he might be just getting fit for the Tour, where he WILL care, and there are stages.  Slagter says he is serious.  Porte and Meersman are quite good picks.  Now we just sit and wait.
JohnD

It's a gamble with any rider, illness & crashes are in the hands of the gods.

I did put more thought in this time - didn't pick riders who weren't in the races for a start hehehe, and i wanted to balance the team between Dauphine & Suisse.

I think Froome will take GC, but chose Contador for sentimental reasons - liked his style pre-ban but now wonder if that style was borne of self-confidence in his preparations - he doesn't seem to have it now.
Nolte

well done John
JohnD

Hey Nolte, you got some points for the TdL yesterday, think you're the only one to score anything for the race!
Nolte

JohnD wrote:
Hey Nolte, you got some points for the TdL yesterday, think you're the only one to score anything for the race!


yeah, i put bob jungles in my team with luxembourg in mind. Smile
Fontfroide

I seem to have a weakness on "semi-classic stage races".  Whatever they are.  Check out my work in that area.  It think it is possible that I don't even care much about them, whatever they are.  I recall entering a team of sprint-oriented riders in Australia. I felt I might never make up the appalling gap.  Must work on that next year.

Never been this close to Maffy at Mid-season, ever.  I think he might crack from the pressure.
Fontfroide

Where is Maffy?
Nolte

Fontfroide wrote:
Where is Maffy?


running scared Very Happy

seriously i hope he's ok.
Fontfroide

I suppose there is no point in PMing him, as if he can see the screen, he would surely read these messages.  All these years trailing behind him and suddenly he disappears just as I MIGHT catch him.  Total chicken shit, unable to deal with impending doom.  

More likely he just has not pressed the right buttons and entered his team in our little close knit, world-wide, league-let.  Probably pop up in two days about 500 points ahead, maybe a thousand.

Hey Almaty, wasup?
Fontfroide

Right, I can breathe easy, he is back.
JohnD

Fontfroide wrote:

..........On the other hand, you are not doing too badly in the Cobblestone overall.  Nice choices.


Cor blimey, you're right FF - i'm 16th overall for the TdF!  I wouldn't have thought to look at the whole league by race; i just look at the league overall to see how Maffy's doing.
JohnD

Gerry top of the front page today!
Nolte

46 FRA Just a Team 678
175 IRL Rockers Uptown 603
184 WAL Ferrari's Fanboys 599
271 ESP Kathysklowns 553
304 KAZ baikonur kashechkinauts 540
333 WAL red dragons 531
343 GBR lanterne_rouge [2011 Vuelta a España top 10 placing] 527
438 IRL an fhoireann eile de mo chuid [Top 10 Tour de France 2011] 501
443 WAL McQuaid's Mauraders 499
453 SCO Mrs Murphy's Fan Club 495
460 IRL Team Nolte-Blunt 493
546 WAL pen y bont 469
581 KAZ almaty [1st 2008 Vuelta a España] [Top 10 Tour de France 2011] 460
620 SCO His Royal Hoyness [1st 2012 Tour de France] 449
647 CHE BMC Retirement Home [2008 Tour de France top 10 placing] 439
715 IRL over the bridge 413
745 HUN vivapantani 399
866 CAN Queen of Decending 329
926 FRA Team Occitan 297
986 CAN Dream Team 2013 251
995 IRL Original Rockers 235
1002 PRT Bianchi Oltre XR 221
1003 IRL The Ace Men 218
1015 FLK Penguin Power 185
1024 KAZ one stop quick steppe shop 153
1026 ESP Desperados 131
1039 WAL The Italian Job 60
1045 ESP French Fries 31

well our teams are probably climber orientated so there's not been much opportunities *fingers crossed*
Fontfroide

Just a Team, mine, is Froome, Valverde and seven sprinters.  So I am just about finished for the Tour and should be drifting downwards.  I must admit I got ruined by the poor performance of Greipel and Cav this year, especially at the beginning.  Still, it was fun trying that kind of experiment, which I tried before, but with all sprinters, which was too excessive.

One can see why I was a bit disappointed with Valverde's puncture.
Fontfroide

Nolte wrote:
46 FRA Just a Team 678
175 IRL Rockers Uptown 603
184 WAL Ferrari's Fanboys 599
271 ESP Kathysklowns 553
304 KAZ baikonur kashechkinauts 540
333 WAL red dragons 531



Nolte, I just realised this is NOT Cobblestone, wrong thread.
Nolte

yeah i just realised that too. i think the big hint was there being more than 6 teams on the list Very Happy

oh well, we're none of us perfect.

talking about cobblestones, i scored some points today with greg van a i think
JohnD

Maffy joint 1st on front page for TdF!

Good on ya Nolte for picking for the other races, i need more knowledge of what goes on outside of the usual races & riders.

Here's our homework for the next few days, deadline for midnight Friday CET:


   Tour of Poland (2_X)
   Clasica San Sebastian (1_X)
   Post Danmark Rundt (2_HC)
   Vuelta a Burgos (2_HC)
   Eneco Tour (2_X)
   USA Pro Challenge (2_HC)
   Tre Valli Varesine (1_HC)
Fontfroide

I will do the tour of Poland and the Classics San Sebastian.  That is enough.

Maybe Tre Valli
Fontfroide

Oh yeah, and congrats to Almaty.  I was really worried to begin with, I thought something happened to him, but in fact, he was lying low and made his usual excellent picks.

But I was watching closely and there was a two day period, when I was TOPS on the overall yellow jersey competition.  Might never happen again.
JohnD

I hear you FF; i'm going to try for Eneco as well.  I think picking for 3 races will hurt my brain too much tho'.
JohnD

Nolte wrote:
....talking about cobblestones, i scored some points today with greg van a i think


You did & you're top of the front page!

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