kathy
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TdF stage 18 - Individual TT - Annecythe profile, for what it's worth
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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Oh, I love Annecy - was there in 2005 on Bastille Day! Fantastic fireworks!
Looking forward to tomorrow.
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SlowRower
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My eldest learnt to ride her bike without stabilisers at a campsite in Doussard. The route goes within a few years of this notable cycling landmark. 
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Hommedesbois
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| MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | Oh, I love Annecy - was there in 2005 on Bastille Day! Fantastic fireworks!
Looking forward to tomorrow. |
They can afford it! Richest town in France!
SR "within a few years" ?
I'm at the other end of the French property ladder so I'm a bit anti-Annecy, sorry!
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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Oooh la la!
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Hommedesbois
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| MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | | Oooh la la! |
C'est ŕ dire?
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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| Hommedesbois wrote: | | MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | | Oooh la la! |
C'est ŕ dire? |
Do you mean "Meaning what?"
Or "that is to say"
My French isn't that good.
But I'm surprised that Annecy is richest town in France, don't know why I should be surprised as it's an amazing place and was chock-a-block full of tourists (me included, but it happened to be a good stopover for me inbetween stages in 2005), but found excellent restaurant serving moules and frites and they got me a table for 1 before several other groups of 2's and 3's - I was impressed and would go back there at the drop of a hat!
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kathy
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| MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | | Hommedesbois wrote: | | MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | | Oooh la la! |
C'est ŕ dire? |
Do you mean "Meaning what?"
Or "that is to say"
My French isn't that good.
But I'm surprised that Annecy is richest town in France, don't know why I should be surprised as it's an amazing place and was chock-a-block full of tourists (me included, but it happened to be a good stopover for me inbetween stages in 2005), but found excellent restaurant serving moules and frites and they got me a table for 1 before several other groups of 2's and 3's - I was impressed and would go back there at the drop of a hat! |
Moules at Annecy? It's a long way from the sea!
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Hommedesbois
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I think the statistic is based on property prices, like the dearest town in the UK is Guildford. France has 2 extremes. I sold land in Burgundy for less than 4€ per m˛ and the price of building land in Avignon is 2,600 per m˛. Annecy is even more expensive as is Lyon.
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Hommedesbois
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| kathy wrote: | | [Moules at Annecy? It's a long way from the sea! |
Swan mussels from the lake? By the time moules get here half have to be thrown away, then I cook them and throw the rest away.
Mouclade on Ile de Ré.....
Cheapest property 600,000€
Pissing down here!
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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I'm not fussy where the moules come from - I could live on them. My Mother says I'll turn into a mussel when I tell her about my meals on my travels!
Would love to go to Ile de Re as well.
Pissing down here in Holland too!
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Jackov
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The profile shows a buffet at the base of the bluffy.
Start times, anyone?
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CapeRoadie
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Armstrong's last chance at a podium.
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SlowRower
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| Hommedesbois wrote: | | MAILLOT JAUNE wrote: | Oh, I love Annecy - was there in 2005 on Bastille Day! Fantastic fireworks!
Looking forward to tomorrow. |
They can afford it! Richest town in France!
SR "within a few years" ?
I'm at the other end of the French property ladder so I'm a bit anti-Annecy, sorry! |
Yards, not years. 
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nzovu
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| Hommedesbois wrote: | | kathy wrote: | | [Moules at Annecy? It's a long way from the sea! |
Swan mussels from the lake? By the time moules get here half have to be thrown away, then I cook them and throw the rest away.
Mouclade on Ile de Ré.....
Cheapest property 600,000€
Pissing down here! |
As for Annecy and pissing down: I have mixed recollections of the place. Spent a week there once with a girlfriend when I was very young. It rained constantly and we had nothing to say to each other. So we spent most of the time in the hotel room... Ah, youth! 
Speaking of youth, how do you reckon Nibali will do in the ITT today? Normally he does a decent one if I remember correclty - should be interesting. I'm warming rapidly to the guy. I see he is a fan of De Niro. Go figure:
BTW, looks as if Liquigas have come up with a new leg-extension drug - now wouldn't that be something. Why don't I ever get spam-mail about that?
Sorry about this completely useless drivel. It's just I'm procastinating getting on with work...
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annesn
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Nzovu,
This team picture reminds me of my son's class picture -- he is in fist grade.
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SlowRower
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Looks like Liquigas use the same photographer as the guy who snapped Wiggo looking like a stick insect.
Maybe there are a lot of photographers who previously specialised in making gardens look very long for Estate Agents who are no eking out a living photographing cyclists.
Agree about warming to Nibali. I like his style. Pellizoti as well (despite the Hamilton style hair!)
The true hero of this year's race, though, is Thor - Mountain Goat - Hushovd for his raid yesterday.
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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| Jackov wrote: | The profile shows a buffet at the base of the bluffy.
Start times, anyone? |
First rider off at 11:10 (CET).
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fede40
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| SlowRower wrote: | Looks like Liquigas use the same photographer as the guy who snapped Wiggo looking like a stick insect.
Maybe there are a lot of photographers who previously specialised in making gardens look very long for Estate Agents who are no eking out a living photographing cyclists.
Agree about warming to Nibali. I like his style. Pellizoti as well (despite the Hamilton style hair!)
The true hero of this year's race, though, is Thor - Mountain Goat - Hushovd for his raid yesterday. |
well right now he's our best ITT-ist (which doesn't say much as I guess Italy isn't quite the country of TTs...).
On a normal day I'd say he can catch Frank... it's the end of TdF so hardly a normal day... let's keep fingers crossed (and hope that next year Peli and Kreuziger will work for him...)
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HuwB
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I too have mixed memories of Annecy. Certainly is a bit crowded at this time of the year.
Not surprised it pissing down. That is the forcast. Warm and wet. A pity, because the heli shots would be stunners.
Another lottery? Menchov can't wait!
Can't fiddle the start order this time, either, so if it rains on some and not others, tough cheese.
I bet Satan gets it dry.
Lance on the way up. Everybody else on the way down.
Marvellous to be able to recovery so quickly and so well, at his age, eh?
Complete opposite to his Italian 38YO counterpart. 
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last km
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Last rider off @ 16.47 CET on Eurosport from 14.20 CET
Go Bradley........get on that Podium
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nzovu
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| SlowRower wrote: | Looks like Liquigas use the same photographer as the guy who snapped Wiggo looking like a stick insect.
Maybe there are a lot of photographers who previously specialised in making gardens look very long for Estate Agents who are no eking out a living photographing cyclists.
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Even for this forum, that is one pretty wild theory
Yes annesn, it does look like a school photo
| HuwB wrote: | I bet Satan gets it dry.
Lance on the way up. Everybody else on the way down.
Marvellous to be able to recovery so quickly and so well, at his age, eh?
Complete opposite to his Italian 38YO counterpart. |
And also complete opposite to Sastre and Evans. People on other forums keep saying we now see just how doped those two normally are. But surely its more likely that we're seeing just how doped the others are?!
I'm guessing Andy will do a pretty good TT today - he has a lot to fight for. With Frank, who knows . In any case, I'd certainly rather see Nibali than Frank on the podium.
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Superbagneres
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Without wishing to reignite the whole debate about how the Olympics are viewed, I must say that what Wiggo has done these last three weeks has in my eyes put him on a totally different level which no further amount ot Olympic track medals could put him on. Until this season I looked on him as someone who seemed to get no visible satisfaction from road racing - in his book he gives one paragraph to describe the experience of riding his first Giro - but what he has done has been mightily impressive, whatever now happens, and a lot of credit must surely go to Vaughters for unlocking his potential. He still doesn't show visible passion, but you can see in his quiet way that he is aware that he is doing something special. I would love him to win the stage today.
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mr shifter
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Whoops, your right .
Note ... must read the thread a bit more before posting
Ignatiev leads with 48:46
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Superbagneres
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| mr shifter wrote: | | Superbagneres wrote: | | and a lot of credit must surely go to Vaughters for unlocking his potential. He still doesn't show visible passion, but you can see in his quiet way that he is aware that he is doing something special. I would love him to win the stage today. |
I thought Vaughters was put in place in Sacremento 2008 when the Lead Out Man went a little too fast for their sprinter (Ciolek was it).
With that speed it didn't take much work to realise, who should be Leading who.
In the meantime Cav has thrown to many Toys out of the Pram for me. |
Don't follow you mr s, Vaughters and Wiggo are at at Garmin and you appear to be talking about Columbia.
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Jackov
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Fabian to start
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HuwB
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Cancellara 18 seconds behind Ignatiev in 1st split!
Thunderstorms just started to break out to the west - maybe 30km.
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mr shifter
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Cancellara 48: 34
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Hommedesbois
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Millar only 7 seconds down on Cancellara at 2nd time check!
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HuwB
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Jaja not impressed with Canc. seems he lost a bit in the end.
11 second lead will never last, with the re-charge boys bringing up the rear.
I'm sure, if Berto catches and passes Andy Schleck in today's ITT, he will be accused by some around here, of pacing! 
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kathy
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I didn't FP Fabian because I reckoned he'd be saving his energy to help the Schlecks on Saturday. He has always been an unselfish rider.
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Slapshot 3
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I reckoned the 35mins he chucked away yesterday would give him the beans today, that time will be beaten
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70kmph
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here come no gypsies...
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Jackov
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I just read some good news: It seems women prefer a hairy chest over a man that takes it off. Especially true for arm pits they say.
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HuwB
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Harmon has called it, in true fanboy mode.
"Riders with climbing left in their legs, such as Lance, bla, bla, Bradley has no chance stuffed after yesterday and Kloden 3 seconds or whatever in front of him."
Scuse me, Armonstrong, but who really blew a gasket, yesterday?
Best laugh yet, for the studio "idiot".......
".....and now, it's time to go over to our commentator, Mark......sorry, David Harmon."
NCIS anyone?
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70kmph
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is getting dark over Bill's mothers...
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kathy
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| Jackov wrote: | | I just read some good news: It seems women prefer a hairy chest over a man that takes it off. Especially true for arm pits they say. |
I can't stand men with hairy chests and armpits. Get shaving guys!
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Mrs John Murphy
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| HuwB wrote: | Harmon has called it, in true fanboy mode.
"Riders with climbing left in their legs, such as Lance, bla, bla, Bradley has no chance stuffed after yesterday and Kloden 3 seconds or whatever in front of him."
Scuse me, Armonstrong, but who really blew a gasket, yesterday?
Best laugh yet, for the studio "idiot".......
".....and now, it's time to go over to our commentator, Mark......sorry, David Harmon."
NCIS anyone? |
Have you thought of writing to ES on that email of theirs and telling Harmon to stop cheerleading and start commentating on the race? Why is it that everyone else can commentate on the race action other than Harmon?
Cunt.
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smarauder68
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Quick FP:
1)Wiggins.....47:49
2)Armstrong..48:14
3)Cancellara..48:34
4)Kloeden.....48:36
5)Contador...48:41
13)Nibali......49:39
29)A.Schleck ....50:33
33)F.Schleck.....50:45
New GC:
1)Contador..........
2)Armstrong........3:35
3)Wiggins............4:01
4)A.Schleck........4:25
5)Kloeden..........4:39
6)F.Schleck........5:29
7)Nibali..............6:07
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Nolte
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will the rain mean that gustav erik larsson can get over his big starting disadvantage and get a top 3 on today's stage?
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Slapshot 3
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Showers shouldn't last much longer than 45 mintes to an hour
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cyclingtv
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| smarauder68 wrote: | Quick FP:
1)Wiggins.....47:49
2)Armstrong..48:14
3)Cancellara..48:34
4)Kloeden.....48:36
5)Contador...48:41
13)Nibali......49:39
29)A.Schleck ....50:33
33)F.Schleck.....50:45
New GC:
1)Contador..........
2)Armstrong........3:35
3)Wiggins............4:01
4)A.Schleck........4:25
5)Kloeden..........4:39
6)F.Schleck........5:29
7)Nibali..............6:07 |
sm.. give or take a bit you might have fp'd it pretty close..
| Quote: | Total distance covered: 15.5 km
1. CANCELLARA Fabian 33 TEAM SAXO BANK 19' 32"
2. CONTADOR Alberto 21 ASTANA 19' 50" + 00' 18"
3. WIGGINS Bradley 58 GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM 19' 51" + 00' 19"
4. KLÖDEN Andréas 23 ASTANA 19' 54" + 00' 22"
9. NIBALI Vincenzo 95 LIQUIGAS 20' 09" + 00' 37"
10. ARMSTRONG Lance 22 ASTANA 20' 12" + 00' 40"
18. SCHLECK Andy 31 TEAM SAXO BANK 20' 32" + 01' 00"
67. SCHLECK Frank 36 TEAM SAXO BANK 21' 08" + 01' 36" |
except for nibali.. looking at what he did in the 1st stage..
based on your times for the others.. could see him doing sub 49..
but a rain slicked course could scramble things up big time..
ie: oil on the course.. sm.. exactly how far are you from annecy.. 
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MAILLOT JAUNE
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| Slapshot 3 wrote: | | Showers shouldn't last much longer than 45 mintes to an hour |
Tend to agree with you ss, but sometimes it's nice to have a good long shower and clean the tiles while you're at it as well.....oh, 'scuse me, sorry just realised, you're talking about the weather!
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Nolte
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| Slapshot 3 wrote: | | Showers shouldn't last much longer than 45 mintes to an hour |
well they knocked out luis leon sanchez
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70kmph
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here come Lance
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cyclingtv
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schlecks looking very stoic.. while waiting for an 'execution' ?
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Hommedesbois
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Why the yellow TT bike? Was he expecting to be in the MJ today?
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fede40
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I woudln't be a hater (just because I find hating really boring and tiring) but my god the ITV commentary is annoying... LA got himself haters for acting like a bully plain simple (and add that winners are never much liked) stop making the geezer a bloody demigod.
p.s.
Go Vinnie!!!
p.p.s.
My PS should be the real post and the post the PS... usually...
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HuwB
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What a skunk of a Trek, Rip Van Winkle is riding.
Harmon on Radioshack: "So, an American sponsor, an American bike and an American star rider, in an all American team...."
For a minute there, I thought he was talking about CVdV and Garmin.
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Jackov
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I thought garmin was european maker
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Bartali
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Lance and Bertie on the new ITT rig. Klodi on the old one. What's that all about. Not enough budget to buy bikes or does the Hog want to make sure Klodi doesn't spoil the party? Or does Klodi think the new Trek is crap?
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SAP
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Wiggins best time at first check. Go go go
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HuwB
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Surprised at Nibali 51" down. 
Armstrong ripped 30" out of Frank, but it's steadied.
ES doing a chat. 
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smarauder68
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| Bartali wrote: | | Lance and Bertie on the new ITT rig. Klodi on the old one. What's that all about. Not enough budget to buy bikes or does the Hog want to make sure Klodi doesn't spoil the party? Or does Klodi think the new Trek is crap? |
Why would they invest in someone living on borrowed time? Kloeden's tour results will be vacated soon, once the Freiburg stuff hits him full force.
They used Kloeden for his domestique duties and will dispose of him within hours of the finale on Sunday...watch!
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HuwB
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Kloden @19" to Wiggins.
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70kmph
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come on Wiggins, fly man...
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HuwB
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Lance @ 9" to Wiggins...
level with Frank.
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mayofan
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over for schleck elder. Wiggins could do damage if he keeps this up!!
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Bartali
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| smarauder68 wrote: | | Bartali wrote: | | Lance and Bertie on the new ITT rig. Klodi on the old one. What's that all about. Not enough budget to buy bikes or does the Hog want to make sure Klodi doesn't spoil the party? Or does Klodi think the new Trek is crap? |
Why would they invest in someone living on borrowed time? Kloeden's tour results will be vacated soon, once the Freiburg stuff hits him full force.
They used Kloeden for his domestique duties and will dispose of him within hours of the finale on Sunday...watch! |
Yep - fair point Scott!
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annesn
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Andy is doing well!
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billgull
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Berto is doing best, though!!!
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The Lemondheads
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Contador taking the piss.
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cyclingtv
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at 18km
NIBALI V. 21:11
WIGGINS B.20:20
KLÖDEN A. 20:39
ARMSTRONG 20:29
SCHLECK F 21:04
SCHLECK A 20:46
CONTADOR 20:03
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HuwB
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Kloden and Armstrong going backwards. Berto becomes Cancellara! 
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mayofan
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contador ridiculous.
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70kmph
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die contador, hex...hex
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Jackov
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armstrong and Kloden saving themselves for helping AC later
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Boogerd_Fan
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lol @ contador... how anyone can believe his ride is beyond me.
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grrr
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| Jackov wrote: | | armstrong and Kloden saving themselves for helping AC later |
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annesn
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Contador-Now the best time-trialer in the world!! I hope they are searching Astana's hotel as we speak.
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mayofan
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LA struggling. Contador will win this by a minute at least. Absurd.
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Hommedesbois
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Hog is behind Rip, not his star rider
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cyclingtv
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58WIGGINS Bradley - GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM
Classement général individuel : 6th at 00:04:53
chrono 1 18.0 km 2th at 00:00:18
chrono 2 25.0 km 2th at 00:00:10
chrono 3 28.5 km 1st in 00:37:20
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HuwB
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BOOM!
Is that the sound of Armstrong blowing up I hear?
42 seconds down on Wiggins already!
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smarauder68
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How can a slight man produce that kind of power on the flats?
Hmmmmm.....Millar called Contador the best he's ever seen and he might prove to be right....
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cyclingtv
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23KLÖDEN Andréas - ASTANA
Classement général individuel : 5th at 00:04:44
chrono 1 18.0 km 5th at 00:00:37
chrono 2 25.0 km 12th at 00:00:31
chrono 3 28.5 km 5th at 00:00:16
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SlowRower
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Bertie now only 7'' ahead of Wiggo at the second check. Has Bertie done a "fly and die"?
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cyclingtv
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at 25km
NIBALI V. 29:43
KLÖDEN A. 28:53
WIGGINS B. 28:32
ARMSTRONG 28:51
SCHLECK F 29:45
SCHLECK A 29:24
CONTADOR 28:25
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Boogerd_Fan
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i'd have the gendarmes at the finish line ready to take bert to jail.
go bwadlee!
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Bartali
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Come on guys we knew this is what would happen after stage 1. Bertie is one of the best ITT men in the world AND the best climber. That's why this has always been about the minor placings.
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smarauder68
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| Bartali wrote: | | Come on guys we knew this is what would happen after stage 1. Bertie is one of the best ITT men in the world AND the best climber. That's why this has always been about the minor placings. |
It also seems that he's ridden himself into even better shape during this tour as often happens. The longer the race goes, the best just keep pulling away.
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CapeRoadie
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Wiggins is THE story of this Tour!
49:13 for Wiggo!
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mayofan
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| Quote: | | Come on guys we knew this is what would happen after stage 1. Bertie is one of the best ITT men in the world AND the best climber. That's why this has always been about the minor placings. |
doesnt make it any more believable though. I thought hed lost an edge in his climbing. this is basso 06 all over again.
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Boogerd_Fan
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looks like wiggo faded after the climb... 
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SlowRower
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Wiggo finished 40'' down. Looks like he died badly in the second half. Finished behind Millar.
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smarauder68
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| CapeRoadie wrote: | Wiggins is THE story of this Tour!
49:13 for Wiggo! |
I think historians will mention Contador first and foremost...then Armstrong in his return...then perhaps Wiggins is the 3rd biggest story of this tour.
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cyclingtv
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95NIBALI Vincenzo - LIQUIGAS
Classement général individuel : 7th at 00:05:09
chrono 1 18.0 km 22th at 00:01:09
chrono 2 25.0 km 29th at 00:01:21
chrono 3 28.5 km 21th at 00:01:11
chrono 4 37.0 km 21th at 00:01:47
arrivee 40.5 km 21th at 00:02:03
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cyclingtv
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58WIGGINS Bradley - GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM
Classement général individuel : 6th at 00:04:53
chrono 1 18.0 km 2th at 00:00:18
chrono 2 25.0 km 3th at 00:00:10
chrono 3 28.5 km 1st in 00:37:20
chrono 4 37.0 km 4th at 00:00:27
arrivee 40.5 km 5th at 00:00:40
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Boogerd_Fan
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| smarauder68 wrote: | | CapeRoadie wrote: | Wiggins is THE story of this Tour!
49:13 for Wiggo! |
I think historians will mention Contador's drug bust first and foremost...then Armstrong in his return...then perhaps Wiggins is the 3rd biggest story of this tour. |
edited for truth!
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cyclingtv
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23KLÖDEN Andréas - ASTANA
Classement général individuel : 5th at 00:04:44
chrono 1 18.0 km 5th at 00:00:37
chrono 2 25.0 km 13th at 00:00:31
chrono 3 28.5 km 6th at 00:00:46
chrono 4 37.0 km 8th at 00:00:38
arrivee 40.5 km 8th at 00:00:51
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Slapshot 3
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Wiggo back ahead of kloden 2 sec
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CapeRoadie
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Armstrong sub-50. Pretty f-ing amazing at nearly 38 years. Contador is simply ridiculous.
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Bartali
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| mayofan wrote: | | Quote: | | Come on guys we knew this is what would happen after stage 1. Bertie is one of the best ITT men in the world AND the best climber. That's why this has always been about the minor placings. |
doesnt make it any more believable though. I thought hed lost an edge in his climbing. this is basso 06 all over again. |
Agreed .... all I meant was that this is the conversation we should have been having on 5 July. Come to think about it ... didn't we all talk about this at DL in June?
Wiggo losing a bit at the end doesn't surprise me. Yesterday will have taken a big something out of him
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The Lemondheads
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| Slapshot 3 wrote: | | Wiggo back ahead of kloden 2 sec |
but still 8s behind Armstrong.
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CapeRoadie
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| Boogerd_Fan wrote: | | smarauder68 wrote: | | CapeRoadie wrote: | Wiggins is THE story of this Tour!
49:13 for Wiggo! |
I think historians will mention Contador's drug bust first and foremost...then Armstrong in his return...then perhaps Wiggins is the 3rd biggest story of this tour. |
edited for truth! |
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cyclingtv
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22ARMSTRONG Lance - ASTANA
Classement général individuel : 4th at 00:03:55
chrono 1 18.0 km 4th at 00:00:27
chrono 2 25.0 km 12th at 00:00:29
chrono 3 28.5 km 13th at 00:01:12
chrono 4 37.0 km 14th at 00:01:11
arrivee 40.5 km 15th at 00:01:27
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HuwB
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LA just has time for a quick refill, before the Ventoux so , no problems.
Berto crushing Canc? Astana are supposed to give the piss, not take it.
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cyclingtv
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36SCHLECK Frank - TEAM SAXO BANK
Classement général individuel : 3th at 00:03:25
chrono 1 18.0 km 20th at 00:01:02
chrono 2 25.0 km 31th at 00:01:23
chrono 3 28.5 km 24th at 00:01:47
chrono 4 37.0 km 33th at 00:02:24
arrivee 40.5 km 33th at 00:02:31
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kathy
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Please, can we have a commentator who can do simple sums! Harmon and Kelly are useless.
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70kmph
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a.schleck !
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