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TdF stage-15, Sunday 19th July, Pontarlier-Verbier

TdF stage-15, Sunday 19th July, Pontarlier-Verbier



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Geraint

They are really hyping up this stage. Must be getting desperate for something to happen. The Paul/Phil show will be spending the preceding 3 hours building up a monster dramatic finish, before blithely ignoring what they said previously when the letdown occurs. We will probably see blue shirts in the top three overall today.
Boogerd_Fan

for anyone but Schleck to be successful, they surely have to go on the 2nd cat Mosses. Andy, is only 90 seconds down, can afford to go on the Verbier...  

omg people please just something happen!

p.s. that youtube clip is so cool!
chardon

The peloton will observe a minute of silence before starting today in respect for the 61 yo lady killed yesterday.

HuwB

Crickey. I thought it was in town, but it's in the middle of nowhere.
Sorry to say, but it looks like she wasn't looking where she was growing.
That child is clearly distraught.

I had expected the stage to be neutralised,as a result. Rolling Eyes

Oh well, France 2 kicks off at 12-30BST, Brit ES has vroom vrooms, so 14-45BST, or later.
What are International doing?

I see another late, late, late or never show on the cards.

It's a long, long way from Mosses (60kms)to Verbier...
Two races in one, the first for the Polka Dot.
Not sure what the second is about.
Slapshot 3

HuwB wrote:

Not sure what the second is about.


Neither do any of the rest of them.....unfortunately Rolling Eyes

I sense a grind with Berto jumping away at the end for another 20 sec
chardon

Berto will show us something today. He was delighted when his parents arrived to see him ride yesterday. Reckon he will be fired to dance on the mountains today.
HuwB

The last time a major tour climbed to the summit. Make of it, what you will.
I think it's fairly telling, when you consider DeVolder attacked from the base:

2008 Tour de Suisse Results

1 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team High Road                                 5.29.23 (34.264 km/h)
2 Andreas Klöden (Ger) Astana                                            
3 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Liquigas                                      0.06
4 Sergei Ivanov (Rus) Astana                                          0.12
5 Stijn Devolder (Bel) Quick Step                                     0.20
6 Andy Schleck (Lux) Team CSC                                            
7 Thomas Lövkvist (Swe) Team High Road                                0.27
8 Igor Anton Hernandez (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi                      0.29
9 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre                                         0.31
10 Markus Fothen (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                      
11 Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram                                  0.38
12 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank
chardon

DNS - Tom Boonen due to diarrhoea.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/n...-tom-boonen-out-of-tour-de-france
nzovu

Not sure I get your point Huw, can you elaborate pls?
Bartali

I think he means that it is hardly a climbers hill ...
kathy

Today's stage seems to be on RTBF satellite from 13.40CET, if that's any use to any of you who are unhappy at ES's coverage.

That Youtube video of the stage is great.  Lots of hairpins on the Verbier climb.
Nolte

kathy wrote:
Today's stage seems to be on RTBF satellite from 13.40CET, if that's any use to any of you who are unhappy at ES's coverage.


i'll be watching TG4's coverage here as it starts at 12:40

though it is also in a indecipherable language
mayofan

big breakaway containing pellizotti, martinez, kern and moncoutie unsurprisingly.

but also van den broeck cancellara and tony martin. Interesting move by martin.
kathy

!

Fortunately, RTBF is in French, so I have no problems with that!
MAILLOT JAUNE

Will be watching it on Sporza (Belgium)-no adverts at all as opposed to watching the Dutch Eurosport coverage - my Dutch/Flemish is pretty bad, but I can follow the coverage and make out some of what they're talking about.

Tony Martin is definitely a threat to the Yellow Jersey in that break.
HuwB

nzovu wrote:
Not sure I get your point Huw, can you elaborate pls?

Apologies, been out. Yes, Bartali has called it. Not a climb for big GC gains, IMO.
I may be wrong, hence make of it what you will.

French tv now live. Cool (very) but sunny, so no excuses.
kathy

RTBF also live now Very Happy   The members of the break have changed, no Martin or Pellizotti, Martínez etc in there now.  The commentators don't seem to have twigged yet.

Hesjedal out in front, but only about 20 seconds.
kathy

Astarloza the virtuall maillot jaune now?
chardon

Efimkin abandons. Hunger flat.
HuwB

Not for long. Who are those guys in turquoise who won't get off the front and let others have a go? Rolling Eyes

Nothing much until, Km 135.0 - Col des Mosses - 13.8 km climb to 4 % - Category 2, so, nothing much until Verbier, I would not very tentatively suggest.
Nice sunny day. Makes for a good tourism ad.
cyclingtv

for the first hour of versus coverage..   so far it's been..
surprisingly phil critical of astana driving the peloton yesterday..
and with paul defending astana and bobke condemning garmin Rolling Eyes
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
Nothing much until, Km 135.0 - Col des Mosses - 13.8 km climb to 4 % - Category 2, so, nothing much until Verbier, I would not very tentatively suggest.
Nice sunny day. Makes for a good tourism ad.


Well the descent from Mosses down to Aigle might throw up a few surprises. It's technical if I remember.

Edit: Double checked a map - must be mixing it up with something else.
chardon

TDF Summit victories since 1952.

http://www.velo-club.net/article.php?sid=53845
Bartali

Just heard cavendish say that Hincapie was "unjustly" denied the yellow jersey yesterday.  God you have to feel sorry for AG2R - how dare they keep their man in yellow.
HuwB

Furck Euroshite, today. ITV4 is already live with the fanboy duo commentating.
Wow, the peloton are really driving up the 2nd cat. Rolling Eyes
Holy Mosses? Razz
smarauder68

Bartali wrote:
Just heard cavendish say that Hincapie was "unjustly" denied the yellow jersey yesterday.  God you have to feel sorry for AG2R - how dare they keep their man in yellow.


Cavendish was responsible for Hincapie not making yellow...why in the hell did Columbia send their men to the front of the peleton with 4km to go??? The AG2R boys were knackered and not gonna be able to pull back enough time...Columbia shot themselves in the foot, chasing 13th place for Cav...DUMBSHITS!
smarauder68

Today´s break looks good...lots of good climbers in there...I cant see Astarloza, Fedrigo and Moncoutie getting caught now...
cyclingtv

smarauder68 wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Just heard cavendish say that Hincapie was "unjustly" denied the yellow jersey yesterday.  God you have to feel sorry for AG2R - how dare they keep their man in yellow.


Cavendish was responsible for Hincapie not making yellow...why in the hell did Columbia send their men to the front of the peleton with 4km to go??? The AG2R boys were knackered and not gonna be able to pull back enough time...Columbia shot themselves in the foot, chasing 13th place for Cav...DUMBSHITS!

+1
Bartali

There's a hard side and an easy side .... this year they're going over the easy side.  Just about sums it up really!
smarauder68

Why didnt Pellizotti make the break today?  He will probably lose the KOM jersey today.
Bartali

SM - Looked to me like Columbia were slowing it down by breaking up the chase rather than forcing the pace.
Jackov

- Ryder Hesjedal (Garmin), Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Silence), Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel), Fabian Cancellara (Saxo Bank), José Ivan Gutierrez (Caisse d'Epargne), Amael Moinard, David Moncoutié (Cofidis), Pierrick Fedrigo (Bbox), Simon Spilak (Lampre), Juan Antonio Flecha (Rabobank)

That's the sort of group and situation where you expect to see Popo...
Bartali

Why'sLA riding deep in the pack?  Its not like him.
Bartali

smarauder68 wrote:
Why didnt Pellizotti make the break today?  He will probably lose the KOM jersey today.


Chicken feed climbs.  He will look for a good position at verbier (double points 1 cat) and the two big climbs on tuesday.
cyclingtv

smarauder68 wrote:
Why didnt Pellizotti make the break today?  He will probably lose the KOM jersey today.
Question

1.   PELLIZOTTI Franco   91   LIQUIGAS   109 pts
2. MARTINEZ Egoi 64 EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 101 pts
3. FEILLU Brice 174 AGRITUBEL 64 pts
4. KERN Christophe 126 COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE 63 pts
5. CHAVANEL Sylvain 151 QUICK STEP 56 pts
6. FEDRIGO Pierrick 144 BBOX BOUYGUES TELECOM 55 pts
8. ASTARLOZA Mikel 61 EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 47 pts
7. RIBLON Christophe 88 AG2R LA MONDIALE 46 pts
smarauder68

Bartali wrote:
SM - Looked to me like Columbia were slowing it down by breaking up the chase rather than forcing the pace.


They started their lead out for Cav with 2km to go...why not let another team force the issue in the last 1km...the lead out men for Cav were flying in that last 2 or 3km on the front...the 5 secs difference were caused by Columbia worrying about 1 or 2 pts for 13th vs 14th....
Bartali

You are right, it might have made the difference, but they clearly weren't going full bore.
Jackov

65km from summit of this climb to base of next.

Time for a shave and a shower after a ride
Bartali

Is Sherwan an idiot?  "This is the kind of damage been done at the back" he says.  What ... like not dropping anyone?
Bartali

Jackov wrote:
65km from summit of this climb to base of next.

Time for a shave and a shower after a ride


Time for a ride too!
kathy

What was Armstrong up to hanging round the back on the climb?
headwind

Well Col de Mosses was quite a selector...
headwind

kathy wrote:
What was Armstrong up to hanging round the back on the climb?


Im sure its just a game.

tht descent looks great!
HuwB

Bartali wrote:
Why's LA riding deep in the pack?  Its not like him.

Glandon, revisited.
Fooling nobody...........well, maybe he is, with this load of DUMBSHITS! (copyright SM 2009)
Bartali

He can't be pretending he's in trouble because no one was with him.  Think he just saying "I'm cool ... nothings happening today."
headwind

you are right...just hopeful some sort of race would develop today...how foolish of me
HuwB

Well, he could have riding up beside the team car, it wouldn't have mattered.
Who, in their right mind is going to attack and ride 60kms to the foot of Verbier?
chardon

Fignon and Adam on France 2 are joking that Armstrong is simmering something. (Il mijote.) Whatever the joke means...
kathy

They're still motor-racing on ES - I've got the audio on the PC.  Mixture of Belgian and Swiss commentators on RTBF.  Moaning about lack of action in the Tour, and lack of Belgian and Swiss Tour contenders.
70kmph

Canada in break- Ryder Hesjedal
Hommedesbois

French commentators now joking about Silence Lotto, saying Silence is an anti-snoring  product   Laughing
Slapshot 3

kathy wrote:
What was Armstrong up to hanging round the back on the climb?


Tapping David Millar about whether Wiggo is up for the main GC rider in his new team next year and if wiggo can't would Dave come instead!!!
kathy

Andy has changed his bike.  

They have just passed the 'Cascade de Pissevache' Laughing
cyclingtv

Armstrong is back with his teammates at the front of the peloton.
He took some time out earlier on the Col des Mosses and hid
inside the bunch, letting his fellow Astana riders do their job alone.

34km to go

Current situation:

- Ryder Hesjedal (Garmin),
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Silence),
Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel),
Fabian Cancellara (Saxo Bank),
José Ivan Gutierrez (Caisse d'Epargne),
Amael Moinard, David Moncoutié (Cofidis),
Pierrick Fedrigo (Bbox),
Simon Spilak (Lampre),
Juan Antonio Flecha (Rabobank)
- Peloton at 3'27"
Slapshot 3

kathy wrote:
Andy has changed his bike.  

They have just passed the 'Cascade de Pissevache' Laughing


Mc Twat home near UCI HQ??????
70kmph

kathy- lol pissevache
Jackov

kathy wrote:
Andy has changed his bike.  

They have just passed the 'Cascade de Pissevache' Laughing


even my monoglot self gets that one
HuwB

Very British Eurosport. Prefer to stay and chat in the studio, rather than have the actual race.
Still to go live.
ITV4 an adfest..... Embarassed
Bartali

So ... is the big swiss going to sit up and wait?  Lotto boy too???
Jackov

The helicopters were getting some great shots of glacial milk.
Bartali

Lampre attack ....
cyclingtv

18km.. 2'38" gap to peloton with  spilak off the front by some 22"

15km.. 2'21" with spilak off the front of the breakers by some 54"
Boogerd_Fan

zzzzzzzzz

hope wiggo tries something again.. just to add to the farce that is this years race!
cyclingtv

10km.. 1'46" with spilak off the front by some 40" in front of chasers..
Bartali

God ... they are talking it up a lot.  Now lets see some action ...
cyclingtv

7.5km.. 1'05" with spilak off the front

6.5 km.. pretty all together now..  Shocked
Jackov

wiggins the mountain goat
Boogerd_Fan

Jackov wrote:
wiggins the mountain goat


Harmon on Eurosport... (in best Lock Stock 2 Smoking Barrels accent)

"caaaaamoooon Bwadleeeeeee"



Laughing
Bartali

Shit ... hincapie's been dropped
Jackov

sastre in trouble?? good grief
Boogerd_Fan

splitting up bigtime!!!
Boogerd_Fan

Bartali wrote:
Shit ... hincapie's been dropped


lol
Boogerd_Fan

fantastic riding from Wiggins... fantastic... chapeau
Bartali

contador!!!
Boogerd_Fan

One of his usual 10 second burtss... if Schleck keeps his cool he should claw him back.

Armstrong waited for Kloden to pace him up lol.
headwind

hes unreal.

chspeau for Cance
Bartali

So why are Astana chasing ???
chardon

This is sick, two contenders in the same team, with Kloden coming up to help LA respond to the attack of Berto.
headwind

just marking bartali dont you think?
headwind

i think they are holding a fast but not chase tempo
Bartali

Well done Sastre ...
cyclingtv

4 km..
ac..
as 22"
la 42"
HuwB

Now who are the dumbshits?
WTF is Kloden doing, pulling a group along?
LA has lost the plot.
Bartali

But no point being there at all ... let the leakygas boys work???
annesn

This is unreal.
Boogerd_Fan

Wiggo!!!

OMG
headwind

i think its good racing. they are hurting the competition with a hard tempo and contador cant be stopped
cyclingtv

3 km..
ac..
as 29"
la 47"
headwind

go schleck!
annesn

Did Contador just punch someone?
Jackov

contador lashing out...

I really hate those folks that get in the way
cyclingtv

2 km..
ac..
as 38"
fs 54"
la 1'05"
Boogerd_Fan

Bertie's rolling his shoulders... has he started to crack?
annesn

Go Andy!!!
Jackov

I will have to include wiggins in my standings chart.
Bartali

Bye bye Lance!
Boogerd_Fan

Bartali wrote:
Bye bye Lance!


Game over.

He'll be toast on ventoux.
HuwB

Armstrong is buried. Mass fanboy sucides!
cyclingtv

1 km..
ac..
as 41"
fs 59"
la 1'15"

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