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Biosphere

Stage 2 TdF: Mon, July 2nd: Visé - Tournai 208km

Sticking to Tradition

Jean-François Pescheux wrote:
This pancake flat stage is tailored to pure sprinters. If Cavendish has missed out on a win the day before, this is the perfect place to make amends. This will be the third day straight that the Tour de France stays in Belgium. The stage will start from Visé, which is hosting the Tour for the first time. The bunch will visit the citadel of Namur halfway through the stage (km 82). We are sticking to tradition.








http://www.steephill.tv/2012/tour-de-france/previews-results/stage-02/
kathy

3 escapees with a nice lead!  But that spotty helmet is awful!
berck

Pretty quiet around here today. Wink
berck

I can't see the spotty helmet at work. They are expanding their lead again. Back up to three minutes again. It would be cool to see a break last for once.
smarauder68

Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?
berck

Gap below two minutes again. 35km left in the race, it doesn't look good for the break.
smarauder68

Hey Berck and Bart and anyone who wants to chime in, go to the Dr.Fuentes room and offer your expert advice for my training regimen on the new thread I've opened there.
ullrichfan

smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


Rojas was involved in a crash near the end of the stage yesterday.
smarauder68

ullrichfan wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


Rojas was involved in a crash near the end of the stage yesterday.


Was he injured? How's his form been earlier this year?
Fontfroide

Now 21k left.  Not a lot to report or notice just yet.

Except the finest ambiance of any event on earth.   Wink

Although of course the Giro comes close.
berck

Yeah, its going to be a bit boring until the final km's
berck

Unless you count tire punctures as excitement. Wink
berck

What's the deal with Sky's yellow helmets?
berck

smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Berck and Bart and anyone who wants to chime in, go to the Dr.Fuentes room and offer your expert advice for my training regimen on the new thread I've opened there.


Already posted for you. Not sure if its 'expert advice' though. Wink
berck

The break has been gobbled up. Now for the positioning. Will Sagan suck his way to another win?
Fontfroide

berck wrote:
What's the deal with Sky's yellow helmets?


The "best team" is meant to wear yellow helmets, although apparently some of them refuse or say they won't.  New innovation.
berck

I thought it was only yellow numbers. Is this 'new innovation' started this year? Is it the being pushed by ASO, or the team?

EDIT:
Thanks FF for responding.
Biosphere

ASO are pushing the yellow helmets. Most are not impressed.
berck

Thanks Bio.
berck

Cav, Greipel and then Goss?
Fontfroide

As for helmets, I wait.  It is easy to pick out riders when they have distinct colours.  Helmet or otherwise.  I like being able to get the helicopter or front end view and pick out the guys.
HuwB

Just caught up with Cav doing it on his own.
Excellent choice of wheels in that final km.

Ah the yellow bonnet debate. Notice Kern's bright yellow booties? Wink
Bartali

Well the leading team used to sport yellow caps so I don't have a problem with the yellow helmets.  What I do have a problem with is the MJ wearing a yellow helmet (unless he's on the leading team).  'J' is for jersey - yellow jersey, not yellow helmet, shorts gloves or shoes!
kathy

smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


He's working for his team leader Laughing

And he hasn't done much at all so far this year!
Fontfroide

Hey Bartali,

You know, on occasions you come over as an old fogy, preserving the ways of honesty, justice and righteousness of the ancient times.  I love it.  It is always a minor delight when you are very much yourself.

I know I am simplifying, you are not an old fogy and some new innovations pass.  But you know whadImean?

Interesting sprint, I thought.  Answered a question or two.
HuwB

kathy wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


He's working for his team leader Laughing

And he hasn't done much at all so far this year!


Well, he had a nasty crash yesterday. Finished 11th today in that flat, cavalry charge.
He beat Kenny Van and Bozic, to boot.

Kittel with Le Shittel, it seems.
Slapshot 3

Fontfroide wrote:
Hey Bartali,

I know I am simplifying, you are not an old fogy and some new innovations pass.  But you know whadImean?


Don't you believe it FF....he's an old fart... ;0)

Can't see them obviously but it's a nice nod to some of the traditions of the Tour, only gripe I have is the Kask helmets look horrible......
maffy

betty swallocks to all the spurting, just want pingu pixies Rolling Eyes
Fontfroide

I just watched the sprint a few times, easy to see Cav with his helmet.  That was actually a terrific sprint by him, the guy moved like a fish in the water.  He was way back before the last curve.  No leadout at that point.  that was a Freire, McEwan type of sprint.  I guess he can do those too.  

Well I was impressed anyway.
Fontfroide

Slapshot 3 wrote:


Can't see them obviously but it's a nice nod to some of the traditions of the Tour, only gripe I have is the Kask helmets look horrible......


If you mean the ones that Cav and Wiggo wear they look useless, no vents?  But it seems not every Sky rider has the exact same yellow helmet.  The mystery deepens.
Fontfroide

maffy wrote:
betty swallocks to all the spurting, just want pingu pixies Rolling Eyes


Maffy, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about.  I would like to, but I just don't.  Sorry to have to tell you.  Even your best friends won't tell you.  It's not every word, I think I got the swallocks bit, but do tell me, please, pingu pixies?

Best,
Your Anglo-American-French-Bulgarian-Irish melange.
Beasley

Cavendish, lucky for the 21st time at the Tour de France...  Wink

The cadence isn't as punchy as Rod would like, but Cav's bike lengths ahead of the rest when it comes to CdA.
maffy

no bother, ff.

[babelfish]
i do not care for sprint stages. they are impressively speedy and all that, and fun to witness in person. they are also handy for people who watch bike racing in youtube highlights. not the essence of bike racing for me, though, and generally a disappointment if one watches the extended telly-coverage. that is also not say that the protagonists of these commonly scheduled stage types are lesser than those who excel in hillier terrain.

<was also impressed with cav's placement today. and disappointed kittel was not sufficiently well to compete. wallonie racing features namur citadel one or twice per year, but it is never on es. enjoyed austria kitzbuheler horn earlier on, but the race design is formulaic like the vuelta ______/ (used the shift key)>

was pleased to see the resumed connectivity of our far southern hemisphere correspondent, and hoped that his impressive photographic equipment would have been used in their winter months to facilitate the pictorial capture of images of penguins. because it's more interesting than tales of a really long tunnel.
[/babelfish]

hope that helps.
SlowRower

Beasley wrote:
Cavendish, lucky for the 21st time at the Tour de France...  Wink

The cadence isn't as punchy as Rod would like, but Cav's bike lengths ahead of the rest when it comes to CdA.


He's a sneaky b*gger as well. I'll bet Greipel is delighted to be leading Cav out in the Tour having not had the honour whilst at HTC!
gerry12ie

That was cannily brilliant by the new svelte Cav.  Sky must be doing somersaults at the prospect of RSNT, Lotto and Greenedge dragging everyone around for the first week while Cav picks off points and wins.  

I could do without yellow helmets myself
Bartali

maffy wrote:
no bother, ff.

[babelfish]
i do not care for sprint stages .... because it's more interesting than tales of a really long tunnel.[/babelfish]


Flipping classic Maffy!!

BTW SS ... I heard that.  Old fogy ... I'm not a day over ... oh, I forget!

FF - I aim to please  Laughing
Nolte

cyclingnews is reporting this tweet of brajkovic's

Quote:
"Bad day. @BorutBozic was hit from behind by organization car. Org car could avoid him, but would bump into other car. He chose hitting rider".


not nice.
gerry12ie

Maffy - class

Bozic was hit alright http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport...Tourauto_schept_wielrenner__.html
Something needs to be done about this immediately, it's fucking ridiculous
kathy

HuwB wrote:
kathy wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


He's working for his team leader Laughing

And he hasn't done much at all so far this year!


Well, he had a nasty crash yesterday. Finished 11th today in that flat, cavalry charge.
He beat Kenny Van and Bozic, to boot.

Kittel with Le Shittel, it seems.


I think Kittel had a mechanical a few km from home.
Bartali

gerry12ie wrote:
Maffy - class

Bozic was hit alright http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport...Tourauto_schept_wielrenner__.html
Something needs to be done about this immediately, it's fucking ridiculous


FFS ... someone needs to do some jail time for this sort of thing!
HuwB

kathy wrote:
HuwB wrote:
kathy wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Hey Kathy, you are the expert on all things Spanish, so what's the the story with Rojas this year? I just noticed he didn't even make top 15 at that intermediate sprint and hasn't really looked very sharp this tour. Last year's #2 man in the chase for Green is looking like a bum so far. What gives?


He's working for his team leader Laughing

And he hasn't done much at all so far this year!


Well, he had a nasty crash yesterday. Finished 11th today in that flat, cavalry charge.
He beat Kenny Van and Bozic, to boot.

Kittel with Le Shittel, it seems.


I think Kittel had a mechanical a few km from home.

The answer was above: Quote on Twitter: "never trust a fart". Wink
kathy

3 escapees with a nice lead!  But that spotty helmet is awful!

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