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Stage 12: Ponteareas - Pontevedra 160km



kathy

Beautiful wild bit of coastline! Very Happy
Mrs John Murphy

Anyone got a decent profile of the last KM?

Any chance of crosswinds along the coast?
HuwB

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Anyone got a decent profile of the last KM?

Any chance of crosswinds along the coast?


600 metres at about 4% apparently.
One man has 7 minutes. LEOPARD and Skil loitering around the front.
Mollema has nicked 6 seconds by taking the 1st IS! Embarassed
kathy

Don't know about crosswinds - but I would guess the answer is yes seening as it's the Atlantic coast.  Last time I was there there was a howling gale, a storm with spray crashing off the rocks - magnificent!
Slapshot 3

SAGAN......
HuwB

Siesta time at the Vuelta.
Kittel conked out on the climb.
Sagan never troubled.
Pretty dull.

Mollema and Kessiakoff win 4 seconds on Nibali and 5s on all other GC contenders.
Fontfroide

Anyone recall such a young cyclist making such a very good year as this 21 year old.  Sagan really should not be quite so good in all these sprints where some element of experience is usually needed. He seems to win on flat stages and uphill ones, and without much of a train.  I am really impressed, but maybe I have forgotten someone else with such precocity.
Boogerd_Fan

Fontfroide wrote:
Anyone recall such a young cyclist making such a very good year as this 21 year old.  Sagan really should not be quite so good in all these sprints where some element of experience is usually needed. He seems to win on flat stages and uphill ones, and without much of a train.  I am really impressed, but maybe I have forgotten someone else with such precocity.


YES. Last year Very Happy
Sagan was only 20 and winning stuff at Paris Nice and ATOC.

Seems like he might be a Jalabert type. Quick in the sprint, and tactically aware to be in the right place at the right time to pick up wins in bunch sprints without being a real "sprinter" Cav-style. But also very effective in the mountains.

This Vuelta is his first GT... and obviously he's just going for stage wins, but there is potential a la Jalabert, to train specifically for the GC and to have a crack at overal. He's already got the legs to do that in single week stage races imo. But converting that to GT's requires being consistent in the High Mountains, where currently he's untested.


Strong kudos to Mollema again today. Nicking a time bonus at an intermediate sprint + being in the right place at the stage finish to avoid the split. Fingers, toes, legs, arms, everything crossed.. that he's going well enough to podium at least.
cadence

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Anyone recall such a young cyclist making such a very good year as this 21 year old.  Sagan really should not be quite so good in all these sprints where some element of experience is usually needed. He seems to win on flat stages and uphill ones, and without much of a train.  I am really impressed, but maybe I have forgotten someone else with such precocity.


YES. Last year Very Happy
Sagan was only 20 and winning stuff at Paris Nice and ATOC.

Seems like he might be a Jalabert type. Quick in the sprint, and tactically aware to be in the right place at the right time to pick up wins in bunch sprints without being a real "sprinter" Cav-style. But also very effective in the mountains.

This Vuelta is his first GT... and obviously he's just going for stage wins, but there is potential a la Jalabert, to train specifically for the GC and to have a crack at overal. He's already got the legs to do that in single week stage races imo. But converting that to GT's requires being consistent in the High Mountains, where currently he's untested.


Strong kudos to Mollema again today. Nicking a time bonus at an intermediate sprint + being in the right place at the stage finish to avoid the split. Fingers, toes, legs, arms, everything crossed.. that he's going well enough to podium at least.


I was hoping he'd race the USA Pro Cycling Challenge, I think it would be a good race for him.
Fontfroide

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Anyone recall such a young cyclist making such a very good year as this 21 year old.  Sagan really should not be quite so good in all these sprints where some element of experience is usually needed. He seems to win on flat stages and uphill ones, and without much of a train.  I am really impressed, but maybe I have forgotten someone else with such precocity.


YES. Last year Very Happy
Sagan was only 20 and winning stuff at Paris Nice and ATOC.
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Fair enough, I take your point.  But you should look at 2011 and see how very much better it is than 2010.  Fantasy points for him will go way up.  This year his palmares were those that any active professional would be proud of.  Last year they were exceptional for a first year pro.

So I am still curious who has done as well as him at 20-21?  I just don't know.

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