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Stage 1 TdF: Sun, July 1st: Liège-Seraing 198km

Setting the Tone

Jean-François Pescheux wrote:
This stage is no leg breaker, but it still is bumpy enough to dampen the hopes of pure sprinters. In other words, I do not think Cavendish will be among those fighting for the win. I hope I am wrong, but I think he will be dropped before reaching Seraing. The course is less demanding than in 1995, when Bruyneel and Indurain blew the race apart on the road to Liège, but it comes very close to the Ardennes and, at 198 km, the stage distance is nothing to sneeze at.  In short, we wanted to preserve the peloton's energy while setting the tone for the rest of the race. We will see...








http://www.steephill.tv/2012/tour-de-france/previews-results/stage-01/
Nolte

Daniel Martin was quoted in todays irish times as saying he's looking at this finish to try to do something.
Bartali

Should be an interesting finish ... sort of finish where GC men can lose a few seconds.
Biosphere

Bartali wrote:
... sort of finish where GC men can lose a few seconds.


Or gain a few Wink

Be interesting to see what type of form Gilbert truly has this year and if there are any green shoots of recovery, cos this stage should be a circled in diary for months absolute 100% effort from him.
smarauder68

Hopefully the officials won't give the "st" treatment to those who lag a bit behind.
Severo

Has any team ever tried to engineer a gap in the peloton on finishes like this? My thinking is that the team GC man stays near the front, but other (say 5) riders hang in the middle, then deliberately slow down in the last 100m, creating a gap large enough to constitute a new time, and hopefully have some less switched on GC riders behind them...
gerry12ie

Well the bookies still make Sagan a clear favourite at 2/1 for this but Gilbert is super-hyped for this hometown stage and is better value at 7/2.  Could Cancellara have the stomach of anger for this?
Biosphere

Having looked at the course properly for the first time on Friday, I think we have an interesting week ahead. Starting from today there are up to 5 stages where the GC can be impacted before the first rest day. The last of those is an ITT so hopefully we will see some aspirations come to the fore prior to that.
Biosphere

Tony Martin took a tumble after 11km and has been yo-yoing back and forth to the doctors car since.
HuwB

Biosphere wrote:
Tony Martin took a tumble after 11km and has been yo-yoing back and forth to the doctors car since.


He looks like he's in for a very unlucky Tour, after yesterday 'n all.
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
He looks like he's in for a very unlucky Tour, after yesterday 'n all.


Given he scored an 8, he's had his share of luck in past Tours.
HuwB

He's clearly not a happy bunny.
kathy

Don't know what Harmon's saying this year, but the Spanish ES commentators have talked about the Armstrong situation, in the context of Brunyeel's absence from the Tour
Nolte

kathy wrote:
Don't know what Harmon's saying this year, but the Spanish ES commentators have talked about the Armstrong situation, in the context of Brunyeel's absence from the Tour


harmon mentioned armstrong yesterday, but not in that context, about skin suits or something.
carlton kirby mentioned at the armstrong: "dark clouds over him" to which harmon ignored and continued taalking about skin suits for a short period before promptly changing the subject
Nolte

lotto makes mess of intermediate sprint there. had a few riders on the front working and then when it comes to the final 500 meters in the sprint, no one. greipl left on the front.
greipl dropped back, way back before recovering with a strong sprint to get 9th (well first 6 taken by breakaway) but with the sprint coming from very far back, he proves why he's the fastest rider in the final 300 meters. however, the other sprinters tend to be at 200 meters when he's at 300 meters
kathy

They must be very slow on this stage - still over 60k to go!
Fontfroide

I can't quite figure out how Fabian can keep the jersey.  I don't think he is strong enough on wee hills, but it will be good to find out.

I do like it when they put a wee hill at the end.  Kind of makes things uncertain, and riders will definitely lose time.  No way it won't stretch out with the distance and gradient.  So EBH or Fabian will just get on Gilbert's wheel and see if they can keep up.  If EBH does, he is in yellow.

TV reminds me of the power of the church.

Totally shocked when the French commentators said that Eisel was NOT in the Tour team, and Cav said neither would he be, and things were changed.  What were they thinking of, NO helpers for Cav.

Yellow helmets?  Who thought that up?  So every team has to have TWO sets of helmets?
HuwB

Slow and uneventful.
Nothing at all to comment upon, so far.

Yes, FF, it would appear that the ASO's new team competition rule
means that every team has to have a supply of yellow bonnets.
Fontfroide

Jalabert just gave his short list.  Nothing new.  Gilbert, EBH, Sagan, Rojas, Valverde, Gallopin, Evens, Simon, Goss.
HuwB

Cretin with a camera, in the road.
Lulu, Valverde, Rogers, Rojas, Karpets, Simon and Coppel amongst those down.
Fontfroide

Cretins like that should be busted and publicly humiliated.  Normally I am a very soft guy, but those people should be done.  AND he was actually on the wrong side of barriers, not just a bit careless.
Biosphere

Back from a ride. Surprised to still be able to catch it live.
Beasley

My, this is a technical run-in! ... & even more so with a 180+ rider group.
Bartali

Sagan!!  Tactically brilliant today.  Canc' had to work to keep/extend his GC lead.  Good try by EBH, but he was always going to come third after that chase.
gerry12ie

Biosphere wrote:
Back from a ride. Surprised to still be able to catch it live.


On the shiny new bike?  Sagan didn't disappoint but how many more times is fat arse going to drag other riders to stage wins?
HuwB

Well that panned out pretty much as expected.
Fabulous effort from Spart.
Fontfroide

HuwB wrote:
Well that panned out pretty much as expected.
Fabulous effort from Spart.


Gee Huw, didn't know you had become an EBH fan. Wink

Although I must admit to being impressed by Fabian and of course Sagan is the toughest fastest on the block.  He can just pick any wheel, follow it and then win.  22 for goodness sake.
smarauder68

Just catching up...Did Martin Abandon?
kathy

Luis Leon lost 4 minutes, and came in with a dodgy looking wrist!

Alejandro did well to get back to the front of the peloton.

I love those little hill finishes!
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
Back from a ride. Surprised to still be able to catch it live.


On the shiny new bike?  Sagan didn't disappoint but how many more times is fat arse going to drag other riders to stage wins?


Yes Smile Shall post some photos. With the fat arse comment in the second sentence, I thought we were still talking about me.

Cancellara had no choice if he wanted to build buffer for defending yellow later in week.
gerry12ie

Biosphere wrote:
gerry12ie wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
Back from a ride. Surprised to still be able to catch it live.


On the shiny new bike?  Sagan didn't disappoint but how many more times is fat arse going to drag other riders to stage wins?


Yes Smile Shall post some photos. With the fat arse comment in the second sentence, I thought we were still talking about me.

Cancellara had no choice if he wanted to build buffer for defending yellow later in week.


I'm allowed call him that - I am married to someone who is in love with him Rolling Eyes

New bikes are cool
Fontfroide

Like Kathy I love hill finishes.  I was very impressed with Fabian.  I really did not expect him to out punch everyone n the entire peloton, on his own.  I wonder if Sagan could have done all that on his own?  

Watching the yellow jersey successfully attack the peloton for any reason is a little extra spectator thrill.

Allez EBH, almost the best young puncher in the pack.
Nolte

smarauder68 wrote:
Just catching up...Did Martin Abandon?


nope, tony martin came 34th and classified as same time as sagan on stage.
interesting rogers got back into the lead group also.

good to see the cancellarra attack.
chavanel attacked a bit too early.
gerry12ie

Nolte wrote:
smarauder68 wrote:
Just catching up...Did Martin Abandon?


nope, tony martin came 34th and classified as same time as sagan on stage.
interesting rogers got back into the lead group also.

good to see the cancellarra attack.
chavanel attacked a bit too early.


Just seen on Twitter that Martin was taken to hospital with suspected collarbone fracture Sad
HuwB

Fontfroide wrote:
Like Kathy I love hill finishes.  I was very impressed with Fabian.  I really did not expect him to out punch everyone n the entire peloton, on his own.  I wonder if Sagan could have done all that on his own?  



Were it not for Cancellara's attack, he would have won from the bunch. Wink

Bad news about Martin.
Bartali

LLS off for x-rays too.
smarauder68

Biggest Losers among GC contenders: Foome +1:35 and Vino 3:45
HuwB

Old man Horner lost a minute, too, not that he's a GC contender.
Both Vino Froome with flats at around 5kms.
Martin appears to have a broken hand.
Biosphere

And Leipheimer lost more to go with yesterday. A dark horse that hasn't got out of the stable yet.
Bartali

And my man B moves up from 90th to 34th.  Time to pay Nibs back for 2010.
Boogerd_Fan

SAGAN!!!! was there any ever doubt?
 
although the bubble has burst thinking this was Slovakia's finest moment, i was totally forgetting Jan Svorada.

anyway, nice celebration!

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