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gerry12ie

So, are you an old school cyclist?

Thankfully, there was one or two that I hadn't done/encountered/heard of - but sadly, guilty as charged on most counts...

20. You know what a Peanut Butter wrench is. +1 point if you know why it’s called that. +2 if you own one.

19. You still wear white socks.

18. You still use toe straps. Just not on pedals.

17. You’ve told a newbie that Super Record ball bearings were hollow.

16. You’ve secured a spare tubular under your saddle with a toe strap.
+1 points if you still do. +2 if wrapped in Gazzetta dello Sport.

15. You know what "drillium" is. +1 if you owned any.

14: You know what you had to drill out when the pin extractor failed and the @#$%! hammer wouldn’t budge it.

13. You talk about being "on the rivet" and you've actually been on a saddle with a rivet.

12. Someone mentions their Rapha jersey and you think they rode for Gitane.

11. You know why cycling shoes had long laces. +1 if you still tie your street shoes off to the side.

10. You used Modolo shifters and they broke. (If they didn’t break, you never used ’em.)

9. Your first freewheel had five cogs.

8. You already have a digital pressure gauge. One on each hand, in fact.

7. You still refuse to admit that indexed shifting is that much of an improvement over Positron.

6. You wore wool. Under your wool.

5. You know which gutta is red and which is white.

4. You still think of them as “Maes” bars. +2 if you know who they’re named for and why.

3. You took the Conconi test. -2 if you thought it actually measured lactate threshold.

2. You put a wet sock over your spare bidon. Because ice cubes were for sissies.

1.  You can name all five – oops, four – five-time Tour de France winners.
Biosphere

I'm positively avant garde Smile
Fontfroide

Me, I must be fifty fifty.  Although sock colour is neither here nor there.

But I am not "old school".  I hate people who try to "become" old school by not taking advantage of modern technology and paying more for stuff that is simply outmoded and low quality.  You can only be authentically old school, by being old and as a cyclist simply buying or using stuff of the era.  "Old school" is for younger consumer guys who never used the old stuff when they were young becasue they weren't even born.  And for them is it just another hip consumer choice.  

However, I do have toe clips on my city bike.  Have always had toe clips on my city bike.  Always will.

Rant over.
Mrs John Murphy

Bart is scoring 3 points for number 16
gerry12ie

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Bart is scoring 3 points for number 16


He might have scored well on No. 5 too...
Mrs John Murphy

And 19.

This quiz is really - are you Bart
SlowRower

I'm disappointed there's no reference to powermeters or virtual reality turbos.
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Bart is scoring 3 points for number 16


He might have scored well on No. 5 too...


Rumour has it that his local chippie keeps a copy of La Gazzetta under counter to wrap Bart's Friday night take away Wink
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Bart is scoring 3 points for number 16


He might have scored well on No. 5 too...


Rumour has it that his local chippie keeps a copy of La Gazzetta under counter to wrap Bart's Friday night take away Wink
Mrs John Murphy

Do they wrap it twice for him?
Bartali

Yup ... double wrapped to keen them warm!

Well you guessed it ... I'm old school.  Though I've never used Modolo shifters and I'vre no idea what white gutta is.  Red is tub glue ... I remember that.

FF - why so down on hipsters?  They're just having fun enjoying some 'classic' bike stuff.  Not doing anyone any harm.
gerry12ie

Blanco...

Fontfroide

Bartali wrote:


FF - why so down on hipsters?  They're just having fun enjoying some 'classic' bike stuff.  Not doing anyone any harm.


I guess I know some people who use old fashioned, outmoded equipment solely because it is "old school" when new school is often obviously better in every way.  Like people who use toe clips instead of clipless or shift gears by leaning down and touching a lever on the down tube or who buy cycling shoes which have a less rigid sole and are made of soft leather with laces.  Or even those who buy and wear imitations of old cycling kit for no good reason.  The reason they do this is not because they are old guys and don't want to change things, or have used the old stuff because there was no new stuff, but because they are hip consumers who need to be "hip" for no good reason, except they have a bit of money and want to be hip.  I guess I think they are trying to be hip and are failing.  I guess I find the concept of old school and new school a little bit inadequate.  

They are, in my critical mind, doing things for some kind of consumer show and not because they want to ride their bike and love riding a bike.  But maybe you are right, and if someone wants to have "a bit of fun", there is nothing to be said.  

Voila.  Just a little hobby horse I have, like commenting on people who use the word instinct when they mean intuition.  Or don't learn the language of the country they are living in.  

Probably it just means I am an aging grump and should just keep my opinions to myself.

I do ride an old steel bike, I admit.  So maybe I am a false hipster too.  Or maybe it is the only bike I have and works just fine.  Mind you, with a bad knee at present I am hardly riding at all.
Boogerd_Fan

thing with hipsters riding around on their fixies - it's a status symbol and hard attempt to be cool, rather than anything practical.. that's the bit that grinds me.

A huge difference between a mature rider going out on steel frame vs. some young pup on his fixed wheel city commuter with orange flourescent wheels and dodgy facial hair.
SlowRower

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
fixies...hard attempt to be cool


It's very hard to be cool when you briefly forget you can't freewheel on a fixie. Embarassed

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
fixies...rather than anything practical...


Fixies are good in slightly icy conditions, as you get much faster feedback as to when the back wheel is starting to lose it. The pressure stays on when you're "backpedalling" (to brake) slightly and you can "feel" the wheel start to slip and correct it. If you ease off on a freewheel, you start freewheeling and lose the feedback (and sometimes your balance.)

My fixie also addresses the issue of the old chain repeatedly falling off when changing gear, though I could have addressed that by investing in decent gears or not changing gear.

It is a bit of a mid life crisis thing. Proper bikes are a lot better!
gerry12ie

I have no issue with hipsters at all.  Fixie/singlespeed is a fine way of getting around city traffic, and if someone is making a bit of an effort to look a certain way then thats certainly OK with me, as I lost count years ago of the various tribes I was in - and TBH part of the appeal with bikes for me in the beginning was the mod thing anyway.  It all gets a bit ridiculous alright when all the lumbersexuals start to look EXACTLY the same but they'll soon shave and grow out of it.  Very Happy

If it gets people on bikes then its cool with me.  We just need to let them know what they are missing out on by not getting in to a sport thats as bent as nine bob note...
Bartali

Smile Smile Well said Gerry

SR - I hope you are suggesting their that fixed wheel bikes ARE proper bikes.  Anything else is just for softies Wink
Bartali

As for 'old' v 'new' .... this says it all!!

A thing of beauty ...



... just a thing!

Fontfroide

gerry12ie wrote:


If it gets people on bikes then its cool with me.  We just need to let them know what they are missing out on by not getting in to a sport thats as bent as nine bob note...


I certainly agree about fixies having been, and continuing to be just fine for certain purposes.

However, the lads (why never lasses?) who do "old school" equipment buying are nearly always those who are ALREADY riding a bike, not people starting out.  Although I could be wrong about that, not exactly in the centre of things here.  I too am totally in favour of anything that gets people riding bikes.  

And I don't even mean serious cyclists who "collect" bikes and jerseys.  I mean consumers, who think it is hip to ride "something different", just because it is different and old.   Someone who bought two sacks of Campag bearings thirty years ago from JD Whiskers, and still has them is not the same as the young consumer buyers of the fake "old school".  Some others (most likely similar to our lad Bartali), are so into everything cycling, they are in another league entirely, "old school" or Pardee riding with matching clothing.  Most old school types are a fake.
Bartali

Fontfroide wrote:
However, the lads (why never lasses?)  ...


Just for you FF Wink



Each to their own, but I really don't have a problem with people wanting to ride something different to look 'hip'.  It would be a sorry place if everyone lycra'd up in fluro and rode modern rigs.
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
Smile Smile Well said Gerry

SR - I hope you are suggesting their that fixed wheel bikes ARE proper bikes.  Anything else is just for softies Wink


I'll leave that ambiguous!

I am unfortunately something of a softie when it comes to gearing. Whilst my legs and lungs are always willing within their modest capacity, my back does like a low gear for getting up hills when it's not in prime condition. (Which is every day now. Sad)

I view an outing on the fixie as a turbo session with scenery!
Fontfroide

I totally agree that every kind of rig is wonderful, lycra is not all there is, modern carbon fibre road bikes are the the end all and be all.  I was objecting only to the kind of younger rider (or brand new middle aged) with a lot of money who intentionally buys old stuff so he or she can be "old school" when they never did ride old school in their lives.  And that they are not even that interested in the multiple wonders of bike riding, only in being hip and cool by spending money.  Same thing for furniture, clothes and all other consumer goodies, they just pick bikes.

However, if they ride and love it, no matter what kind of bike, then all is well.  The more people on bikes the better.

Although I must admit that sometimes I see photos of obviously non cyclists simply advertising fashion and money spending and do get a little annoyed.  Except if you post it Bartali, then I chuckle.

And since I guess I am a bit of grumpy opinionated git, and getting worse, that is all I shall say.  I hope.
Fontfroide

Just saw this quiz here.  Must be a current events item.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gea...oure-an-old-school-cyclist-43542/

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