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Slovak and Czech republics

Question for the Europeans of the board, why did the Czech republic and the Slovak republic split, wouldn’t they have been stronger unified?  Its my understanding the people didn’t want the split, but the presidents of the time did...is that accurate?

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Boogerd_Fan

I'll ask the other half... but on 100% the Slovaks wanted it - 75 years of being the lesser of the two halves was enough.
Nolte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_Czechoslovakia#Separation

that's what wkipedia says
headwind

funny, my dad was born in the Slovakia half of Czechoslovakia  some years before the war...and after rather miraculously escaping the Nazis and getting to USA, he STILL refers to home as Czechoslovakia!
Mrs John Murphy

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
I'll ask the other half... but on 100% the Slovaks wanted it - 75 years of being the lesser of the two halves was enough.


It depends who you ask. Opinion polls at the time of the V.D said showed very little interest in splitting. It seems to have largely been driven by Klaus and Meciar. You need to remember just how grim things were for Slovak democracy up to the fall of Meciar - to the point where EU accession was almost delayed and it was put in the 'naughty' group with Ro and Bulgaria.

The 'short' version is:

1918 - Czechoslovakia formed: The Slovak half was very underdeveloped - low levels of literacy etc, as a result the new state was dominated by Czechs.

High degree of resentment by Slovaks against Czech domination results in support for Hlinka etc. Slovak separatists throw their lot in with Hitler and we end up with the Tiso puppet state during WW2.

1947 - Communists very popular - in large part due to the failure of the 1919-1939 govt.

Communists seek to 'develop' Slovakia - so heavy industrialisation takes place in Slovakia - ie Semtex etc etc.

Communist party slightly more Slovak than Czech - Husak, Jakes, and Dubcek were all Slovak but Charter 77 etc more Czech - especially economic liberals, free-marketeers etc.

Post-1989 - obvious underlying tensions about 'domination'. Czechs want to push for rapid marketisation of the economy - the problem is that the industries that are most likely to be closed down are the 'heavy' industries which happen to be in Slovakia.

But in short - it was driven more by Meciar and Klaus than anything else - since neither wanted to share power and both are bat-shit insane.
cadence

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Boogerd_Fan wrote:
I'll ask the other half... but on 100% the Slovaks wanted it - 75 years of being the lesser of the two halves was enough.


It depends who you ask. Opinion polls at the time of the V.D said showed very little interest in splitting. It seems to have largely been driven by Klaus and Meciar. You need to remember just how grim things were for Slovak democracy up to the fall of Meciar - to the point where EU accession was almost delayed and it was put in the 'naughty' group with Ro and Bulgaria.

The 'short' version is:

1918 - Czechoslovakia formed: The Slovak half was very underdeveloped - low levels of literacy etc, as a result the new state was dominated by Czechs.

High degree of resentment by Slovaks against Czech domination results in support for Hlinka etc. Slovak separatists throw their lot in with Hitler and we end up with the Tiso puppet state during WW2.

1947 - Communists very popular - in large part due to the failure of the 1919-1939 govt.

Communists seek to 'develop' Slovakia - so heavy industrialisation takes place in Slovakia - ie Semtex etc etc.

Communist party slightly more Slovak than Czech - Husak, Jakes, and Dubcek were all Slovak but Charter 77 etc more Czech - especially economic liberals, free-marketeers etc.

Post-1989 - obvious underlying tensions about 'domination'. Czechs want to push for rapid marketisation of the economy - the problem is that the industries that are most likely to be closed down are the 'heavy' industries which happen to be in Slovakia.

But in short - it was driven more by Meciar and Klaus than anything else - since neither wanted to share power and both are bat-shit insane.


Interesting, thanks Murphy...
Mrs John Murphy

A decent easy to read introduction to Czechoslovak history including the Velvet Divorce can be found in this

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