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Mrs John Murphy

Rage Against the Machine for Xmas Number 1

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2228594104&ref=nf

Very very worthy - if not for sticking two fingers up at Simon Cowell and his anti-music sub-karaoke shite, but also for the money being raised for Shelter.
Nolte

well they have better songs then "killing in the name" but it's a good cause

in my youth, i enjoyed their music
Mrs John Murphy


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Ralphnorman

There is also a campaign to get 'Don't Stop Believin' (Journey) to number 1
Nolte

*shivers*
CapeRoadie

LOL
bianchigirl

Doc, sorry to sound pridish but don't really care for the sig line - I appreciate it's a joke and all but having worked with a fair few kids who'd seen their mothers battered (and been battered themselves) it's something that's really hard for me to find funny anymore.

downloaded my copy and donated to shelter - seems they might even pull it off as well Very Happy
Nolte

so who will win RATM or X Factor?

one sure winner though, Sony Smile
last km

Any one got a favourite Christmas No 1........I struggled to think of anything significant...... Question Perhaps the Pogues ?
paperman

Just stick with RATM, worth it IMHO
Nolte

last km wrote:
Any one got a favourite Christmas No 1........I struggled to think of anything significant...... Question Perhaps the Pogues ?


checked wikipedia and that wasn't a christmas no. 1

it also says polar bears are very common in guatemala!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...stmas_number_one_singles_%28UK%29

i'm not a fan of christmas sons but one of my favourite christmas songs is "stop the cavlry" by jona lewie
Mrs John Murphy

Bought my copy.
last km

RECENT CHRISTMAS NUMBER ONES
2000: Bob the Builder: Can We Fix It
2001: Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman: Somethin' Stupid
2002: Girls Aloud: Sound of the Underground
2003: Michael Andrews feat Gary Jules: Mad World
Band Aid 20: Do They Know It's Christmas?
2005: Shayne Ward: That's My Goal
2006: Leona Lewis: A Moment Like This
2007: Leon Jackson: When You Believe
2008: Alexandra Burke: Hallelujah

Rolling Eyes
Mrs John Murphy

2009 Rage against the Machine - Killing in the Name
paperman

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
2009 Rage against the Machine - Killing in the Name



Laughing
Fontfroide

Excellent result.  bounce

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2...st-the-machine-ratm-joe-mcelderry
cardinal guzman

Again Sony pits two of it's artists against each other in a succesful bid to boost sales. I was fooled when Cowell did it with Hallelujah -but you don't get me twice.

Buy a song or album if you like it, but don't be farmed for cash.
Mrs John Murphy

CG - that misses the point completely. But nevermind. Nice to see you've jumped on the 'their on sony so it is a pointless protest' bandwagon. It wasn't necessarily about 'bringing down the man'. Since 98% of the world's media is own by a few companies - almost any song chosen would have ended up profiting the large companies.

I'm sorry that it doesn't meet your expectations of acceptable protest. The fact is that it was a grassroots driven protest - no real organization beyond facebook, word of mouth.

As Tom Morello noted

Quote:
"When you live in a capitalistic society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart."


I am sorry that we are not as ideologically 'vegan' as yourself.

People bought the record for various reasons and all of us are aware that RATM are on a label owned by Sony. Some people such as myself, bought into the song because it is the polar-opposite of the songs produced by X-Factor winners, and because it is a symbolic comment about wishing to see more diversity and variety in music rather than the hegemony of one particular style. Like Said throwing a stone at the IDF - it is what it is - a minute, ultimately futile but nonetheless symbolic act of protest. I am sure others had their own reasons for buying the single. Good luck to them.
cardinal guzman

Like I said - if you like a song buy it.

If you want to protest about something, a bad place to start is giving money to the object of your protest. It makes you look daft and used.

I don't even think it was a protest - just people having a laugh with a bit of disposable cash.
Mrs John Murphy

No it doesn't, only to the cock stroking SWPers who think they have a monopoly on what is the 'correct' way to protest.

The fact of the matter is unless you live a self-sufficient life in a hovel you are going to be contributing in some way shape and form to the profits of large multinationals. Aren't you the one who was protesting about electricity companies a while back? So tell me how are you powering your computer? Solar power? Mrs G on a hamster wheel?
Slapshot 3

I'd have brought back Mr blobby...Wink

Down loaded a copy of RATM, can't say i like it but it stopped the Simon fucking Cowell Bandwagon. Got into all sorts of crap at home  Rolling Eyes They love the talentless wonder that won X Factor
cardinal guzman

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
No it doesn't, only to the cock stroking SWPers who think they have a monopoly on what is the 'correct' way to protest.

The fact of the matter is unless you live a self-sufficient life in a hovel you are going to be contributing in some way shape and form to the profits of large multinationals. Aren't you the one who was protesting about electricity companies a while back? So tell me how are you powering your computer? Solar power? Mrs G on a hamster wheel?


Lol - come down off your trojan horse.

I haven't said don't give money to big companies or that I don't give money to them. I said this instance was a rubbish way to protest - specifically saying that for most people it wasn't a protest at all, merely a bit of a laugh.

Everyone that bought a copy of the Rage single and contributed to it making the number one slot merely bought Simon Cowell revenue, column inches and airtime - if they bought the single because they like it, then everyone is happy, but if they bought it to have a go at Cowell then they were Royally mugged.
Mrs John Murphy

Why don't you do the same? You're quite happy to tell everyone else the correct way to protest but you're pretty fucking shit when it comes to following your own guidelines. That by any stretch of the imagination makes you a fucking hypocrite. It's nothing to do with money being given to Sony and everything to do with you (and others) being snobby that a protest went mainstream and you weren't part of it. You'd rather wallow in the purity of your irrelevance and the moral superiority it gives you.
cardinal guzman

No need to get all shrill with embarassment MJ, everyone gets mugged sometimes and this was your time. No number of adhominem attacks on me will change that.
Mrs John Murphy

I'm not the one who came in attacking people for buying the records while failing to live up to the standards I set for other people. No good complaining when they get personal - I guess you just don't like your calling card coming back to you by return post.

The only thing that is embarrassing is your hypocrisy being exposed. Protest as I say, not protest as I do. You'd have been better off keeping quiet.
cardinal guzman

Mugged.
Mrs John Murphy

Intellectually, yes you have been.

For 67p, I think most people can cope, and as you have said, most people were doing it for a laugh - which means no one has got mugged. Other than of course the blowhards such as yourself who got all aroused when they realised that RATM were on a label owned by Sony.
Nolte

cardinal guzman wrote:
Mugged.


who? irish fans who had to pay 75 (including booking fee) compared to english fans who get free tickets?

Very Happy
paperman

Same old same old..........

I was interested in going to the gig until I saw the ticket prices. Not gonna pay that to see em
cardinal guzman

We get the corporate whores we deserve every time we are tricked into voting them in.
Nolte

paperman wrote:
Same old same old..........

I was interested in going to the gig until I saw the ticket prices. Not gonna pay that to see em


yeah, i looked at the price myself and thought better of it

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