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| thunderthighs |
phelps lost...loserthats a typical american suck.. thought he had it won b4 racing..MISTAKEpellegrini.. next superatr... |
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| SlowRower |
Phelps had 6 months off serious training and is racing in an old-style suit. He'll be kicking a*se again next year.
Pellegrini is something else, I'll give you that. |
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| Beasley |
You know you're good when two golds and a silver is considered bad going. 
I'm sure even Ms. Pellegrini would be willing to tolerate that. Meanwhile, almost fours years to the day, a Chinese swimmer slashed six seconds off Grant Hackett's 800m WR. Paul Biedermann - the chap who beat Phelps - shaved a thousandth off Ian Thorpe's supposedly unbreakable 400m WR. Young Sarah Sjostrom, 15, took 1.5s off Inge de Bruijn's 100m fly benchmark, set in Sydney. & Ariana Kukors, third in US trials, took over 2s off Steph Rice's 200m IM WR Plus many, many more, of course. It is getting a tad ridiculous! |
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| kathy |
It's all to do with these funny swimsuits their wearing, isn't it? Normally when they get tired, their hips drag in the water, but these suits hold their hips up apparently - that's what the ES commentators are saying, anyway. I'd rather watch the diving! | ||||
| Nolte |
how many world records have been broken at the worlds? | ||||
| Beasley |
15, by my count.
Men: Freestyle: 200m, 400m, 800m Breaststroke: 50m, 100m Butterfly: 200m Women: Freestyle: 100m, 200m, 400m, 4x100m Backstroke: 50m, 100m Breaststroke: 100m Butterfly: 100m IM: 200m The question is, how many these will still be standing at the end of the year? |
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| MAILLOT JAUNE |
All of them - their swim suits will hold them up! 
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| Beasley |
The restriction are expected to be in place by April 2010, there's a lot of racing between now and then.
After his competition has finished, I expect the current record holders will take a short break then go globe trotting in an attempt to put their records out of reach for a generation. These suits have ripped up the parameters of the sport. As Mark Foster said, he'd train for an entire year hoping to improve by a hundredth. Now by squeezing into a nifty suit, a swimmer can improve by tenths. |
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| SlowRower |
Saddest of all is that Ian Thorpe's 400m record has gone. From what I've read, most people considered that to be about as unbreakable as a swimming record gets.
What really puts things into perspective is that Pelligrini is swimming faster than the blokes were at the time of Mark Spitz! The 4 minutes barrier for 400m wasn't breached until 1973 for the blokes. The new men's 800m record is at a faster pace than the 400m WR in the early 90s. |
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| Drongo |
Thorpe, to his great credit, apparently rang the bloke up and said, 'It wasn't just the suit, it was you.' To which I say: bollocks. I think the proof of how strong that record was (is?) is the fact that it was only beaten by the smallest margin possible. Other records have been shattered, blown away. This is one reason I don't mind the hour record rules in cycling. If records are truly to mean anything (and I think their place is vastly overstated, given the inability of anyone to race someone who isn't in the race), then this sort of technological change must be negated as a form of discrimination. |
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| Beasley |
In regards to Thorpe's record, the opposite spin is that the air of invincibility came no so much from his performance in itself, but because few swimmers specialise in the distance. Most are either 1500m specialists coming down, or 200m competitors going up. It would be crude to say the event slips under the radar, but it's rarely the premier event.
Still a fantastic swim, none the less. It feasible that all the freestyle records will be broken by the closing ceremony. The only ones still standing are the 50m and Hackett's 1500m which was set in 2001 or thereabouts. The latter is almost certain to go. |
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| thunderthighs |
thrope is s fag,..... i hate faggots... | ||||
| kathy |
Have you got proof of that, TT? Or are you confusing him with the Oz diver Matthew Mitchum? |
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| Jackov |
Nude swimming is the only solution. | ||||
| MAILLOT JAUNE |
Excellent idea jackov! |
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| fede40 |
wouldn't that be unfair to some athletes? 
anyway, no doubt Pellegrini had a massive help from her Jaked suits. I just hope that the part of the gap is due to her actually being the strongest. |
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| kathy |
Well, it appears that nearly all the swimmers were wearing them - they were available to everyone as I understand it - so we have to assume it was a level playing field. Pellegrini swam very interlligently. |
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| Beasley |
It depends what contract(s) a swimmer has. Phelps, along with several other US swimmers, can't because they're sponsored by Speedo so have to wear the LZR.
I think the problem is more the challenge to the integrity of the sport rather than accessibility. Overall, those setting the records are the usual suspects, they're just going unbelievable fast! |
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| Mrs John Murphy |
It's ironic that when other swimmers complained about Phelps' suit last year the response of him and his coach was that they should switch to his suit maker. And yet when the situation is reversed and Phelps' rivals are gaining ground and overtaking him, the response of Phelps' coach is to demand the banning of the suits and threatening to withdraw Phelps until they are banned.
I am not sure want to see naked swimming. I am not sure that there are many people would welcome the combination of Claire Balding and Michael Phelps cock while eating their dinner. |
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| berck |
Yeah, Phelps is definitely a loser. Four golds and one silver? He has a chance for one more medal too. Nothing like his Olympic performance. 
I can't find the sarcasm smiley.
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| kathy |
Talking of smileys, I thought this might be a good one to use on this forum sometimes.
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| MAILLOT JAUNE |
Brilliant - never seen that one before! |
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| kathy |
From here
http://photobucket.com/images/smiley%20icons/ One of my favourites (obviously) 
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| MAILLOT JAUNE |
Cheers kathy 
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| Nolte |
world record count? | ||||
| fede40 |
What I understood is that Jaked and Arena are best ones. A while ago Magnini (former 100m freestyle world champion) was saying in an interview he'd like FINA to ban the suits. |
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| Beasley |
Something like 35 in the end, Nolte.
Though the shocking thing (for me) is that neither the men's 1500m or women's 800m went. In the end, they didn't even get close. Two ex-GB swimmer did a piece for the BBC where they said whilst they disagreed with the suits on principle, they understood why those competing would never want to go back to textile! |
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| Geraint |
I think they had more WRs than the number of events. Some of the swimmers who are crying about their records being broken wore advanced suits that their competitors didnt have so a bit of hypocrisy there. Best moment was the Serbian swimmer generously offering one of his suits to Phelps so that he would be competitive, while reminding everyone that he should have the Olympic gold medal. | ||||
| thunderthighs |
lets go back to 1984 swimsuits..
i like see sexy women legs.. really do.. |
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| berck |
Or was it the fact that Phelps beat him using an 'inferior' suit and setting a WR in the event?
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| Ralphnorman |
reminds me of the commentator on the Roy vs Vernon fight in 97 (?) 
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| SlowRower |
Well he probably should have, but he got beaten and didn't! Winding up Phelps was possibly not the smartest move he's ever made... |
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| Mrs John Murphy |
And in the process completely exposing his and his coaches earlier rant as the sour grapes that it was... SR - I can see why you like Phelp - fugly inbred doped up americans seem to do it for you. Marauder had better watch out and stay off the roids or else he'll be next. |
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| Geraint |
Most of the women are huge. The one I liked was Amanda Beard, she looked normal. |
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| SlowRower |
I don't particularly like Phelps as a swimmer; I was simply observing that the Serbian bloke didn't win the 100m butterfly in Beijing, despite his claims to the contrary and winding Phelps up wasn't going to help his cause this time round. I will bow to your obviously superior first hand experience of the subject when you label Phelps as in-bred, though. |
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| Mrs John Murphy |
You also claim not to be a Lance fanboy so we know how much your denials are worth.
It's dueling banjos time. As for inbreeding, I observe it, you live it. It's the old observer vs practitioner argument. |
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| SlowRower |
You were the one who mentioned in-breeding. On a thread largely about swimming costume design that suggests rather more of an interest than just "observation".
On the practitioner front, are you accusing me of being inbred myself, or simply failing to provide biodiversity in my procreational activities? |
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| Mrs John Murphy |
By that logic that means that TT's interest in homosexuality is more practice orientated than he otherwise lets on. | ||||
| thunderthighs |
murphy.. when competing keep the brain on, you may win some races... nah iam pervert..not a fag..
amanda beard..wow amy van dyke inga de bruin... oh i wish...really i do ... ciao |
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| Mrs John Murphy |
The lady doth protest too much.
The person who seems most ill at ease with his sexuality is you. Why all the self-loathing? Is it because you never won anything? Do you blame your sexual desires for your opponents for the reason why you are a never was? |
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