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kathy

Paris- Roubaix

The race takes place on Sunday 13th April.

I have posted an FP thread here

http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/about5079.html
Slapshot 3

SIMPLY.....The best race on the calander!!! hope it chucks it down
gerry12ie

That was a nice little Eurotrashy snippet with Flecha and Lemond before the main event Smile

It might not be my absolute favourite race on the calendar but it is probably the most tense, and the last couple of editions have probably been the best monument of the year.  It will have to go some to match last week's classic, but either way I'm going to enjoy the next couple of hours.
HuwB

GVA with a flat. The calm before the D'Arenberg storm.
gerry12ie

Sagan flat just before sector 19
Fontfroide

Bit sad for John D as his guy is gone.
gerry12ie

Tom and OPQS turn the screw and Sagan goes out the back
Fontfroide

WAs that Sky riders in the second group trying to catch up?
Fontfroide

Boonen seems a bit frisky today.
Biosphere

Boonen gone too soon? BMC working for everyone else.
Fontfroide

Still, feels good to have Geraint up there too, even if it is a bit too early and in fact they are certain to be caught.
gerry12ie

Anyone know how Thomas might be in the velodrome? Wink
Fontfroide

Fontfroide wrote:
Still, feels good to have Geraint up there too, even if it is a bit too early and in fact they are certain to be caught.


Maybe not totally certain.
Fontfroide

gerry12ie wrote:
Anyone know how Thomas might be in the velodrome? Wink


Very comfortable, but whether he can beat someone like, say, Thor, after 250k, who knows.
gerry12ie

Sagan goes for it just as ES cut to an ad break
gerry12ie

Boonen throwing some magnificent hissy fits
Fontfroide

Boonen seems to be doing an imitation of Voeckler, constant hassling of the others to do more.  Wonder if that works?
Bartali

This has Cancellara written all over it ....
CapeRoadie

THAT was a nightmare corner.  If Sagan wins, my life will suck momentarily.
Fontfroide

Loving this.  All together now, or nearly, we await the next move.

Looks like Sagan is better than we all thought.  Even if in the end, he might come short.
Fontfroide

Loving this.  All together now, or nearly, we await the next move.

Looks like Sagan is better than we all thought.  Even if in the end, he might come short.
CapeRoadie

The ditch has swallowed them up!
Biosphere

The wheelsucker goes for it Wink
CapeRoadie

He's chasing potatoes.
Fontfroide

If you means Sagan, didn't he just bridge a gap with one other guy who did shit?
CapeRoadie

Lesson from the 1990's:  Sprinters who are doped to the gills can climb.
Fontfroide

19k and we still have no idea.  Good race.
CapeRoadie

Sagan has no chance except in a bunch sprint.  My money's on Fabian.
CapeRoadie

Wish the fans would get the hell out of the way!
CapeRoadie

Pedal, you bastards!
Fontfroide

Not a bad group ahead.  Every single one a very good rider who could win the race.  And yet we still have no clues, anyone else could catch them.  The chasers even are impressive.  

Not just a good race, but as good as possible.
CapeRoadie

Van Marke and Cancellara should just take off.
CapeRoadie

Back together!  Wow!
CapeRoadie

Sneaky move coming...
Fontfroide

Jesus, a group of ten 8k from the end, every single one a giant.

Cool.
CapeRoadie

Sprint.  Hmmm.
CapeRoadie

Cancellara needs a TEAM.
CapeRoadie

Biggest bunch I've ever seen at the end of this race.
Fontfroide

Getting a bit late for anyone to catch Nicky.  Such a huge bunch and nearly everyone a favourite of some kind.  Will anyone make a move?  surely they can't all just roll into the velodrome a minute later?  Come on guys, finish a great race!
Fontfroide

Kathy cleans up.  No new records by the big guys, but a very seriously excellent top ten.  I guess I am a little disapointied that not one of the other riders made a move after Terpstra left, but I suppose everyone had a reason.  Geraint did make a try.
CapeRoadie

Enjoying watching Lemond commentary for Eurosport.
HuwB

I watched Sporza all the way.
Eurosport have lost the plot.
Tactically, a truly fascinating edition.

Top 20
http://www.matsport.fr.php53-23.o..._live=5&menu=&race=463736
gerry12ie

Desperate commentary, poor coverage, strange result.  Who would have thought that Canc, TB, Vanmarcke, Sagan or Degenkolb wouldn't win from the final selection?  Chapeau Wiggins for a great ride but the real kudos must surely go to me for sticking a fiver on Terpstra in-running at 33/1 about 2 seconds before he kicked.

Should just about cover the cost of the tooth filling that came loose during dinner Rolling Eyes
CapeRoadie

The camera coverage messed up the podium.  Such an American cycling coverage thing to do...
HuwB

CapeRoadie wrote:
The camera coverage messed up the podium.  Such an American cycling coverage thing to do...


I was amazed at this. Very poor. Must have been asleep.
Slapshot 3

Wow...superb race. P-R never lets you down. Disappointed by Canc/Vanmarke but thats racing.... Gob smacked that Sir Bradders was still there at the end, that was impressive!!
CapeRoadie

Letz take zees time to apprisheeate zis moment.
HuwB

CapeRoadie wrote:
Letz take zees time to apprisheeate zis moment.


I appreciate your "special guest star" re-appearance. Wink
kathy

Well, I thought it was a great race Very Happy

Well done, Niki!
gerry12ie

Smart pick Kathy, well done
Fontfroide

In my short memory, with no historical background, I can't remember a better set of TF-PR in terms of racing and the race itself.

For information, the French coverage was fine, and I have no idea what anyone is meaning about Podium mess-up.  We got two decent interviews with Fab, as well as Terpstra.
gerry12ie

Our coverage showed the third bunch sprinting as if it was for second place and then it cut away missing the real sprint for second.  Kelly was sorely missed from the ES commentary, Dan Lloyd did a reasonable job but Kelly keeps Carlton on tighter leash...

I agree, as a double header this years TF-PR takes a bit of beating for close racing
HuwB

Fontfroide wrote:
In my short memory, with no historical background, I can't remember a better set of TF-PR in terms of racing and the race itself.

For information, the French coverage was fine, and I have no idea what anyone is meaning about Podium mess-up.  We got two decent interviews with Fab, as well as Terpstra.


Me neither.
Het Nieuwsblad, E3 and this pair of monuments have been top notch.
A classic cobbled classics season.
Boogerd_Fan

I'm really liking the Matt Stephens co-commentator role @ Eurosport... he knows what he is talking about at least, and the fact he tends to extend his comments and take over the commentary is great!! The less Kirby the better.
Fontfroide

On French TV we get Jalabert and a guy who talks too much and is rabidly pro-French.  Same team we get for the Tour.  Jalabert is not too bad.
Biosphere

Back in Ireland for a few days, so had to contend with 7 kids running laps around the TV and me brother grumbling about not being able to watch Liverpool v Man City, so it was difficult to follow sometimes. On the other hand as a consequence season I didn't hear much Kirby, so it's not all bad.

So given that I might not be in the best position to judge excitement, tension and so on, I thought it was a grand race for the most part, but the last 15km was maybe missing half a final act and there was a bit too much looking at each other. Last year for me was probably a better overall cobbled season, but this season had the merit of a variety of winners.
mr shifter

CapeRoadie wrote:
Lesson from the 1990's:  Sprinters who are doped to the gills can climb.

Do not understand this post.
Paris-Roubaix OK but where the hell are the hills for the sprinters to climb. ?
John Degenkolb has won a hilly race before. (I think in Paris Nice 2014)
His team have Kittel for the flat stages but even he can produce results on a hilly course.
It was left to OPQS to send the "Hare" down the road to leave Boonen collecting the tickets and Stybar ready to take over.

Shame it wasn't wet today as everybody rode on the dry edges of the cobbles/Pave

Good proper racing (well it's Europe) that kept me in the chair trying to work out the suspense of the team work.

I almost went two's up with Kathy's FP.
kathy

I was worried that you might doublé up on my FP, Mr S!

As far as Degenkolb is concerned, from what I remember from last year, even a railway crossing was a hill too far for him.  Great sprinter, yes,but his ability to clumb hills this year is a bit odd!
Biosphere

I've never thought he was one to struggle with climbs overly for a sprinter, and he has placed well at MSR and the Valkenburg WCs so maybe you're thinking of another of the Giant Shimano sprinters?
berck

HuwB wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:
The camera coverage messed up the podium.  Such an American cycling coverage thing to do...


I was amazed at this. Very poor. Must have been asleep.


Well, ASO has been visiting the AToC rides to see how to do rolling road closures. Maybe the Euro coverage is trying to learn a thing or too from the US counter parts. Wink
berck

Nice to see you posting again Cape! Smile
CapeRoadie

I was talking about Sagan, Mr S!  I really dislike what he's about.
Boogerd_Fan

CapeRoadie wrote:
I was talking about Sagan, Mr S!  I really dislike what he's about.


LOL are you seriously questioning his form from 2014 Model?? He's a shadow of himself from this time last year!!

For the sprinters who can climb theory to be casted on Sagan, there would first need to be an argument as to why class him as a pure sprinter.. clearly he's focusing on training other areas this winter - he has totally lost the sharpness at the top end for sprints.
Fontfroide

You could even say that from the way he rides the Tour, he can often finish well in sprints, often do well on uphill finishes, but he is more about consistency of almost winning sprints, than actually winning them.  He certainly can get up medium hills perfectly well.  Like Demare, Degenkolb and one or two other sprinters (Bouhanni or Coquard?)

But he is so good he invites the cynical, critical or doubting to think he is using a bit more help than he might.  Maybe he is.  If he is, he will get caught, probably.  But he has been winning races since he was young.  And he does have days when he just has not got it.

Still, I doubt I will get into an argument about who might or might not be doping.  I hope they get caught if they are.
Boogerd_Fan

If he is caught, it would not surprise me one bit. However, giving the benefit of the doubt for now. Certainly his drained performances at this years classics have looked human.
Boogerd_Fan

Niki Terpstra's strava data is now available. Quite astonishing!

http://www.strava.com/activities/130432764

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