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Biosphere

Olympics 2016

The Olympics kick off tomorrow with the opening ceremony (turning a blind eye to the football that is already underway).

Road races on Saturday and Sunday with TTs following later in the week.

FP Thread is here:

http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/about5395.html
Beasley

Different sport, but...

Caught a bit of the rowing. Bloomin' hell, those conditions aren't for the faint hearted! What's the odds of a sinking?
Fontfroide

Reasonable English feed with Chris Boardman in the commentary team.
http://95.85.28.62/livestream.php
Bartali

So .... two brits sit inches from the team car bumper for several kms and no one says a word.  Nibali takes a pull and gets thrown off the Vuelta.  This sport is amateurish if they can't get some consistency.
Nolte

Finished a novel so now settling down as Cummings finished his day

Gilbert dropped now

Is Dan martin and Roche still there?

Looked at cyvlingnews feed, described froome and Thomas as being behind the car for "quite some time"
Fontfroide

I would even say a "long time".  Apparently in the Olympics things are a bit different.  Neither of them was actually holding on to the car Bartali.  "Just drafting.  Mind you, drafting their own car all by itself as contrasted with "working up through the cars".
Beasley

Brute of a course! Harder than Beijing, I reckon.

I'm surprised the climb isn't fenced.
Nolte

Thomas doesn't look good

Although I have said this quite a few times this season and been wrong quite a bit
Nolte

Dan martin a bit back in the main group, hopefully saving energy rather than not being his day
Nolte

Porte out with crash
Nolte

Nibali attack missed on tv . hard to see with 3 Italians and 2 British in it, being brought back
Biosphere

In the mountains on holiday so streaming is not an option. Bouncing around various European channels as they bounce around the sports.  Making for fragmented viewing experience.  Hopefully the Italians will stick with coverage for last 30km.
Biosphere

Nolte wrote:
Nibali attack missed on tv . hard to see with 3 Italians and 2 British in it, being brought back


Cancellara and Valverde haven't dented the lead.
Nolte

Biosphere wrote:
Nolte wrote:
Nibali attack missed on tv . hard to see with 3 Italians and 2 British in it, being brought back


Cancellara and Valverde haven't dented the lead.


I was wondering who cancellara had been riding for

Nibali, henao and majka in the medal seats at the minute
Biosphere

I'm amazed how easy it is to stand along the road compared to London. China was a bit special because the authorities wouldn't allow people onto the route. Can't remember Greece.
Nolte

Nibali group 15 seconds ahead  of chasers to my count of time
Nolte

Nibali, henao down.

Similar happened to cancellara 4 years ago
Biosphere

Nolte wrote:
Nibali group 15 seconds ahead of chasers to my count of time


Not any more Sad

Majka to time trial to gold or bunch sprint?
Nolte

Thomas down too as alaphillippe bridges. Chase group doesn't seem to want to work together so majka looks uncatchable
Nolte

Van a and fuglsang working really good together.
Nolte

Van avermaet finally takes a big one
kathy

Yay!!! Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Biosphere

Yes, the two of them went for it well once they got the gap. Probably knew they were riding for Gold and Silver.
billgull

Chapeau! Greg.

Chapeau! Kathy
gerry12ie

Very tough route, and a great race to watch. Tough, tough winner who deserved a big one, although it was hard luck on Nibs and Henao. Did Alaphilippe come down I wonder, i thought he was off the front of his little group on the descent, but next shots showed him bridging back on to the same group further down the descent?

Blood hard race Very Happy
Nolte

gerry12ie wrote:
Very tough route, and a great race to watch. Tough, tough winner who deserved a big one, although it was hard luck on Nibs and Henao. Did Alaphilippe come down I wonder, i thought he was off the front of his little group on the descent, but next shots showed him bridging back on to the same group further down the descent?

Blood hard race Very Happy


I think alaphillippe had started it behind the others
Biosphere

Post race interviews:

Fuglsang very happy with result.  One they got the gap was happy to work.

Van Avermaet paced himself on final climb once Nibs broke the group up, the crashes were kind to him on descent and the sprint was the easiest thing he had to do all day Smile
Biosphere

So if Van Avermaet could win the gold, did Sagan make a mistake by passing on the course and going for MTB instead? I think Van Avermaet is a marginally better climber but they're pretty similar riders.
maffy

good question. sagan does spring then gap then cali - but is prepping for sprinting green during the middle of the season, even if does accidentally win all of the tall shallow high bits in cali. gva didn't necessarily expect to be as fresh and good at climbing as he was with the yellow, after crashing at rvv. and he has to negotiate with giblet all the time. probably just moved his canadia training forward.

brilliant race, mind.

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sagan going through the mtb field will also be a fun watch
Boogerd_Fan

Nibali broke both collar bones. Not sure how he achieved that, but pretty nasty!
gerry12ie

maffy wrote:
good question. sagan does spring then gap then cali - but is prepping for sprinting green during the middle of the season, even if does accidentally win all of the tall shallow high bits in cali. gva didn't necessarily expect to be as fresh and good at climbing as he was with the yellow, after crashing at rvv. and he has to negotiate with giblet all the time. probably just moved his canadia training forward.

brilliant race, mind.

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sagan going through the mtb field will also be a fun watch


I think if Sagan had opted for the RR, then the dynamic would have been very different.  He would have been marked very closely, and the race would have been even more animated earlier on, just trying to shake him off.  For some reason, GVA manages to slip under the radar a bit easier than Sagan - maybe its because of all them podium places relative to big wins.  Either way, the punchers and climbers missed a trick by not doing more to shell him out.

Small teams + no radios = great racing.  It's not that difficult to work out is it? Wink
ventoux

gerry12ie wrote:

Small teams + no radios = great racing. It's not that difficult to work out is it? Wink

+1
Bartali

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Nibali broke both collar bones. Not sure how he achieved that, but pretty nasty!


Sad

A perfectly executed plan, great team riding and a guaranteed medal all came crashing down.  Shame.
Nolte

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Nibali broke both collar bones. Not sure how he achieved that, but pretty nasty!


Cycling news has updated it that it is a double fracture in the left collarbone.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/n...ollarbone-in-olympic-games-crash/

Maybe they shouldn't rely on google translate.
Bartali

WTF are the Brits doing here? Germans, belgiums, US, Dutch, Aus and italy up the road and team GB are just letting them go????
Fontfroide

Racing starting seriously in the Women's RR.  Wonder if Ferrand Prevot is really in shape?  She seems to be pretending she is.  Botox injections in the spine did the job apparently.
gerry12ie

Vos looks like she really wants this
Nolte

Lead back from 1:20 down to 40 seconds
gerry12ie

The Dutch and Americans have played this well
Biosphere

Women seemed to be going faster than the men at the entrance to the National Park (that big bollard in the middle of the road)

Have been cleaning and regreasing bike on balcony of chalet. Choice between looking out at sun setting on Alps or look back into flat at TV. Not a bad choice to have Smile
gerry12ie

Lets hope Annemiek is okay that was a real nasty one.  Fingers crossed...
gerry12ie

I can't see Abbott holding on
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Lets hope Annemiek is okay that was a real nasty one. Fingers crossed...


It looked terrible and she wasn't moving Sad
gerry12ie

So - who wins?
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
So - who wins?


Abbot is holding it unless she blows.
gerry12ie

My couple of little euros on Abbot @ 25/1 was brave but overly optimistic I fear...

I'm worried about Van Vleuten though
Biosphere

Borghini rode for 3rd?
gerry12ie

Oh man!  The favourite ended up winning, and hopefully her team mate can share in the celebrations.  Gutted for Abbott who finished with nothing.

That was as good as the men's race, but that descent is downright dangerous.
Nolte

gerry12ie wrote:
My couple of little euros on Abbot @ 25/1 was brave but overly optimistic I fear...

I'm worried about Van Vleuten though


It was an awful crash, I hope she is ok but doesn't look it

Longo borghini probably realised her best medal chance be bronze in that group in a sprint of 3 so she rode hard to bring back Abbott.
gerry12ie

Unconfirmed, but fingers crossed


Fontfroide

Not a bad race, full of late tragedy and danger and glorious victory.  Too bad for Abbott.
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Unconfirmed, but fingers crossed




I think the demeanour of the Dutch women is confirming it. Hopefully.
Boogerd_Fan

Nolte wrote:
Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Nibali broke both collar bones. Not sure how he achieved that, but pretty nasty!


Cycling news has updated it that it is a double fracture in the left collarbone.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/n...ollarbone-in-olympic-games-crash/

Maybe they shouldn't rely on google translate.



I realized it may have been a translation blip when i saw the tweet as source... still, a double fracture is quite bad.
The one on my right collarbone was shattered into 4 pieces, and it was about a year until i was really back to myself on bike.. i hope this doesn't dent Nibs' sixth sense for attacking racing and risks.
Biosphere

Van Vleuten is nevertheless in a bad state despite being able to tweet

https://www.theguardian.com/sport...-intensive-care-olympic-road-race

To add to the list, Henao has a broken hip and Porte has broken collarbone.

A different type of road through a rainforest compared to the Alps - big roadside drains for downpours.
Bartali

Injuries etc aside .... I would argue that Amistead rode a good race but was not well served by her team.

I'm not sure whether Pooley could have dragged her up to the swede's wheel on the final climb or not, but TBH I'm not sure why Harris and Pooley were there at all.  The whole thing reminded me of the Cooke era.  Pooley goes to the front when Armisted has a mechanical, then works hard at the front only to sit up at the top of the climb and let the gap go out again.  Was Harris even riding?  King must be bitterly disappointed.
Biosphere

Weekend carnage sees Thomas get a late TT slot. I've put the official list and times on the FP thread.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport...s-bonus-place-time-trial-rio-2016

http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/sutra234397.php#234397
mazda

Good to see Tom Dumoulin is taking part.
mazda

Van Dijk has a small excursion into the foliage.
Stays upright and on the bike though.
gerry12ie

Oh those Russians Very Happy  Very Happy
gerry12ie

American cyclist Armstrong saves world from evil Russian doper Wink

1 Kristin Armstrong (United States) 44:26.4
2 Olga Zabelinskaya (Russia) 44:31.97
3 Anna van der Breggen (Netherlands) 44:37.80
4 Ellen van Dijk (Netherlands) 44:48.74
5 Elisa Longo Borghini (Italy) 44:51.94
6 Linda Villumsen (New Zealand) 44:54.71
7 Tara Whitten (Canada) 45:01.16
8 Lisa Brenauer (Germany) 45:22.62
9 Katrin Garfoot (Australia) 45:35.03
10 Evelyn Stevens (United States) 46:00.08
mazda

Armstrong wins
Beasley

Seeded group in the men's TT underway. Or as we enthusiasts prefer to call the Race of Truth, 'The Only One That Matters'

... well, until the men's TP, of course. Wink
Beasley

Thomas has passed his 90-second man. Could be on for a quick one...

Dennis 5" quicker than Thomas through 10km. I think GT would take that.

On commentary, Boardman mused this is one for the all-rounder TTer rather than climbers as speculated.
Beasley

Cancellara edges out Dennis by less than a second on the 10km check.

Dumoulin + 15s
Martin +  16s
Froome + 20s

Bit of a 'tweeners course. Not enough climbing to burn of the TTers; just enough to keep them honest. Pacing with be paramount.
mazda

After 10km - a long way to go

1 CANCELLARA Fabian 15:12.88
2 DENNIS Rohan 15:13.55
3 THOMAS Geraint 15:18.74
4 DUMOULIN Tom 15:27.35
5 MARTIN Tony 15:28.87
6 CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 15:31.95
7 FROOME Christopher 15:32.36
8 ROGLIC Primoz 15:32.63
9 IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Jon 15:33.92
10 BODNAR Maciej 15:41.14
Beasley

Dennis 14s faster than Cancellara through 19.7km check point.

Has FabCan front loaded and is now paying for it?
mazda

Current leader Konig went off slowly and did the second half very fast.
Beasley

Sorry, Cancellara's 24" down! Big swing in 10km.
mazda

1 DENNIS Rohan 28:47.05
2 DUMOULIN Tom 29:03.96
3 CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 29:08.97
4 CANCELLARA Fabian 29:11.31
5 FROOME Christopher 29:11.69
6 THOMAS Geraint 29:15.61
7 IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Jon 29:18.72
8 ROGLIC Primoz 29:28.40
9 BODNAR Maciej 29:32.32
10 MARTIN Tony 29:37.12

I think Tom has this under control Smile
Beasley

Dumoulin's aero-tuck is what TT men dream of. Textbook!
mazda

Timings say that Cancellara has picked up 42" since the last check. Shocked

and gained 34" on Dumoulin.
Beasley

Dennis forced to change bikes. You can put a fork in him, unless something remarkable happens Good change, though. Congrats to the mechanic!
Beasley

Froome +33" with 20km to go. Will need to be riding a big negative split to stand a chance.
mazda

1 Fabian Cancellara (Switzerland) 48:30.4
2 Rohan Dennis (Australia) 48:48.4
3 Tom Dumoulin (Netherlands) 48:56.2
4 Christopher Froome (Great Britain) 49:03.2
5 Jonathan Castroviejo Nicolas (Spain) 49:10.2
6 Jon Izaguirre Insausti (Spain) 49:40.9
7 Maciej Bodnar (Poland) 49:43.0
8 Geraint Thomas (Great Britain) 49:44.9
9 Primoz Roglic (Slovenia) 49:55.8
10 Nelson Oliveira (Portugal) 50:00.1

Something must be wrong with one of Fabian's timings.
Or he took a shortcut.
Bartali

Beasley wrote:

Has FabCan front loaded and is now paying for it?
No Smile
Beasley

Dumoulin is starting to roll a little but has leapfrogged Dennis with 10km to go.
mazda

Beasley wrote:
Dennis forced to change bikes. You can put a fork in him, unless something remarkable happens Good change, though. Congrats to the mechanic!

Well and truly forked.
Bartali

Come on the big Swiss ... this is a good way to end a career!!!
mazda

Looks like Bodnar will creep up into 6th.
Bartali

Damn .... oh well.  At least he didn't win.
Beasley

Not a bad way to go out, hey!?!

Big medal for British Cycling. Only bronze but important to get one on the board before the track starts.
Bartali

Thomas in ninth ... great ride from him too.
Boogerd_Fan

A fitting end to a monster career.. chapeau
gerry12ie

Yes, it seems just right that he should bow out on such an apt, high note.  He'll be missed by most
Fontfroide

If I had been picking I would have picked Fabian just to put in a vote for Hollywood endings.  Such a  fine career, such a grasp of languages, such a powerful rider and at his age to get fit for and win against the young Turks utterly fitting and full of delight.  Too bad I have failed to manage to find any coverage live, even though I admit watching an ITT live is not my idea of great fun.
Beasley

Track underway, starting with the men's team sprint qualifiers.

Be interesting to see how well the boards have bedded in. There were late getting them down, so you'd expect times to suffer.

... well, practice trumps theory! GB set a new Olympic record, 42.562. Hindes opening lap was 17.12. Rapid!
Bartali

WoW!!!!
Bartali

I didn't see that OR coming!!
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
I didn't see that OR coming!!


Oh ye of little faith. They've refitted the special rounder wheels...
Beasley

The French ride the traditional way... 'no gaps'!

The more common way nowadays is a gap between Man 1 and Man 2 so the latter has a slipstream to accelerate into.

New Zealand, the pre-race favorites, just behind GB. Just over a tenth in it. Opening lap 17.04!
SlowRower

Beasley wrote:
The more common way nowadays is a gap between Man 1 and Man 2 so the latter has a slipstream to accelerate into.


I like how tactics evolve in what seems like a fairly simple exercise. Think the Germans maybe went a bit too long on the gap, though.
Beasley

In truth, I think the adaptation was 'on the hoof' rather than strategic. Man 1 has become increasingly specialised over the past decade. It got to a stage where by trying to stick to the wheel in front Man 2 was killing Man 3's momentum. I don't think anyone really had the combination of speedster/stayer to stay with Man 1 yet deliver Man 3.

The way to think about the team sprint, I think, is a two man 500m relay from a running-start brought up to speed via a lap behind a derny.
SlowRower

Seriously round wheels for the GB ladies in the TP. WR in qualifying! 6 seconds up on the Aussies.
Bartali

That should be a tidy final!
SlowRower

USA 1s down on GB. Lord only knows how they go so fast looking so rough.
Beasley

Kiwi team sprint was executed to perfection. New OR.

Still a tenth in it but roles reversed. GB win their heat in 42.640. NZ in 42.535. They race-off for gold.

FRA v. AUS for bronze. Is there a way both can finish fourth...? Wink
Biosphere

I'm too conditioned by road riders anorexic frames. Sitting here incorrectly thinking Skinner is overweight as he does his cool down.
Beasley

Look like Heiko wasn't bluffing.

GB a whisker under 3-52, 0.4 off WR pace. Wiggins looked the weak link.
mazda

TP times not as fast as expected.
GB a long way ahead.
What happened to the Aussies ?
Beasley

Australia looked rough, which is unusual. Typically, they're technically spot-on. To me, that suggests they were really pushing it but there wasn't much in the tank.

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