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Slapshot 3

Marmotte....Pah!

Okay boys this should be the next target "le Haute Route"....read and weep!!

http://www.hauteroute.org
SlowRower

The Marmotte is indeed a real tiddler. This one seems like the most stupid single-day challenge one could ever consider:

http://www.sportcommunication.inf...dumontblanc/parcours.php?langue=2

330k / 8000m ascent.

Start 430am. Finish manned until midnight!

Winning time last year circa 12.5 hours.  Shocked

The "Haute Route" sounds great - a stage race with a Mountain TT. Maybe day-long (literally, in the case of the Mont Blanc) Sportives are on their way out and Weekend Warrior stage-racing is the way forward. Smile
Bartali

Re: Marmotte....Pah!

Slapshot 3 wrote:
Okay boys this should be the next target "le Haute Route"....read and weep!!

http://www.hauteroute.org


Ha ha ... I'm pretty much doing it in a few weeks (31 cols and 17,000m of ascent), but as a 6 day ride rather than as a sportive ....

Thonon Les Bains to Praz sur Arly (114kms with 2743m ascent) - ncluding Col des Moises (1118m), Col de la Ramaz (1557m) and Megeve (1107m).

Praz sur Arly to Tignes La Reculaz (105 kms and 3079m ascent) - including Col de Saisies (1,633m) Col du Pre (1740m), and Cormet de Roselend (1968m).

Tignes La Reculaz  to Cesana Torinese (127kms and 2620m ascent) including Col de L’Iseran (2764m), Col de Mont Cenis (2,081m), Col de Finistre and the Col de Sestriere.

Cesana Torinese to Vars, (105.5kms, 3004m ascent) including Col de Montgenevre and the Col d’Izoard (2361m).

Vars to Beuil (132kms, 3142m ascent) including the Col de Vars, the Cime de la Bonette (2802m) and the Col de la Couillole (1678m).

Beuil to Antibes (149kms, 2051m ascent) including the Col de St Raphael (876m),the Col de Bleine (1439m) and the Col du Pilon (786m)
Shocked
Guiness

Who is this with, Bartali?
Boogerd_Fan

17000m in 6 days riding. That is plain bonkers.. BONKERS.

Good luck with it though. Hope you recover sufficiently in a few weeks time to let us know how it went!
Biosphere

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
17000m in 6 days riding. That is plain bonkers.. BONKERS.

Good luck with it though. Hope you recover sufficiently in a few weeks time to let us know how it went!


That was what I thought when I read the Haute Route website - 7 days of it. Madness. Fatigue after 2 to 3 days would finish me off. Completely. At least they've been kind on the cut-off and a pace of 15km/h is what's required. And even if you're HD'ed or abandon a stage, you can start the next day but are out of the race.

On a different note well done to everyone who's getting out there and getting the climbs in. Some heroic stuff being reported. Inspiring Smile
Slapshot 3

Biosphere wrote:
Boogerd_Fan wrote:
17000m in 6 days riding. That is plain bonkers.. BONKERS.

Good luck with it though. Hope you recover sufficiently in a few weeks time to let us know how it went!


That was what I thought when I read the Haute Route website - 7 days of it. Madness. Fatigue after 2 to 3 days would finish me off. Completely. At least they've been kind on the cut-off and a pace of 15km/h is what's required. And even if you're HD'ed or abandon a stage, you can start the next day but are out of the race.

On a different note well done to everyone who's getting out there and getting the climbs in. Some heroic stuff being reported. Inspiring Smile


Heroic...or in my case plain stupid, still I suppose if I did ride one of these big sportives with Bart and SR they could both hide from the wind behind me at the same time..... Wink
Biosphere

Getting out on bike and enjoying yourself is never stupid. Well done on having the balls to give it a go Smile
Bartali

Guiness wrote:
Who is this with, Bartali?
Marmot Tours.  Never been with them before, so fingers crossed. I really wanted to do the Raid Pyrenean with Pyractif but I couldn't fit it in with work.  Still I'll be back with them next year again - I love the atmosphere there with Chris, Helen and the cats Bernie and Lotte.
maffy

Biosphere wrote:
Getting out on bike and enjoying yourself is never stupid. Well done on having the balls to give it a go Smile


bah. you're just showing off with your shiny new chain Wink
Biosphere

maffy wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
Getting out on bike and enjoying yourself is never stupid. Well done on having the balls to give it a go Smile


bah. you're just showing off with your shiny new chain Wink


Well the bike looks all pretty now, but when I saw my profile reflected in a shop window as I passed this morning . . . . lets just say there's still room for improvement on the asthetics Laughing
bbnaz

ooh thanks!  Another possibility for MrB when his femur heals.  This is right up his alley.  Still I am pushing Marmotte for him too.

I best be careful or he may think I am trying to kill him. Cool
Guiness

bbnaz wrote:


I best be careful or he may think I am trying to kill him. Cool


Laughing If Mrs G suggested something like this to me, i'd think she was up to no good too.

Good to read he is on the mend BB. Wish him well from us all.
Fontfroide

Bartali, you could be a hero, a giant of the road.

Also you could be mad.
Guiness

Fontfroide wrote:
Bartali, you could be a hero, a giant of the road.

Also you could be mad.


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Boogerd_Fan

Guiness wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Bartali, you could be a hero, a giant of the road.

Also you could be mad.


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+1! Very Happy haha
SlowRower

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Guiness wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Bartali, you could be a hero, a giant of the road.

Also you could be mad.


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+1! Very Happy haha


He is both!
Slapshot 3

Look, we skelp about on narow dodgy road as quick as we can on 23mm wide slick rubber, often in the wet, We're all Feckin mental!! Wink
Fontfroide

Slapshot 3 wrote:
Look, we skelp about on narow dodgy road as quick as we can on 23mm wide slick rubber, often in the wet, We're all Feckin mental!! Wink


Not me mate.  After trying 25s a few ears ago and finding them much better, I joined the one or two in our club who ride them.  Then I bought a pair of nearly new wheels already shod with 28s, so I tried those.  After weighing the new wheel and my old ones of course.  I doubt I shall ever go back.  They feel excellent, safe and roll fast enough for my legs, lungs and heart.
Boogerd_Fan

I went the opposite way 10 years ago, there is no way i'd go back to dirtbikes.
Bartali

28s!!  That's practically a car tyre!

Seriously, I've only just progressed from 20s to 23s.  That's about as heavy ... I mean wide ... as I want to go!!  I have good friends who swear by a 22 on the front and a 23/24 on the back.

Oh ... and thanks for the ringing endorsement SR! I consider myself merely mildly eccentric.  Wink
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
I consider myself merely mildly eccentric.  Wink


Oh dear... Smile
gerry12ie

That's a serious undertaking Bartali, best of luck with it.  I fear it might be an undertaker for me if I were to ever attempt it.

Does it come in cobbled? Wink
Bartali

Ha ha ... I don't do cobbles cos I'd only fall off and hurt myself! Wink
Fontfroide

Bartali wrote:
28s!!  That's practically a car tyre!

Seriously, I've only just progressed from 20s to 23s.  That's about as heavy ... I mean wide ... as I want to go!!  I have good friends who swear by a 22 on the front and a 23/24 on the back.



It was even better when I first turned up at the club with my only road bike at the time, an old Roberts Touring bike.  Brilliant bike many ways and product of much experimentation.  Well they thought it was a joke.  The gaps between wheels and frame.  The gearing (which was carefully chosen in many respects and suited me fine) and the huge tyres.  I think then I had 32s.  I was just and only a cycle tourist.  I am still like that, but I ride a Colnago instead.  They really did take the piss, in a gentle a friendly way.  I quickly change the tyre size, and when the chance to get the Colngao came up I went for it.  Now there are not so many comments, until they realise the leather saddle, the double bar tape on top and the fat tyres.  But by now we know each other well enough, and I can be the strange, ignorant foreigner that they tolerate.  One day I will go one of the many regional sportives and see if anyone says anything.  I am really a fan of 28s now.  

If you had a buggered back and neck like me, you might try that stuff.  Doesn't make the pain go away, but it postpones it.  anyway I don't really go fast or far enough to try to have the fastest or best.  Medium will do me fine.
Boogerd_Fan

Well, if someone turned up to ride with me on a 32, i think i'd be applying some gentle ribbing all the way around the route as well Very Happy

A colleague of mine joins me sometimes to head into the lower carpathians... its a win win, i can drag him to the good bike trails on the false flat, and he'll disappear up a few dirt track short cuts while i have to take the longer route around the road hairpins. But i still take the piss out of his fat tyres Smile

Having said that, respect that despite your body issues, you've still found a way to get out and enjoy your biking. Kudos.
Bartali

Back in Blighty all safe and sound.  6 days from Lake Geneva to Antibes and a whole lot of col bagging!

Col des Moises (1118m)
Col de Terramont (1080m)
Col de Jambaz (1027m)
Col de la Ramaz (1557m)
Araches Les Frasses (1008m)
Megeve (1107m)
Col de Saisies (1,633m)
Col du Pre (1740m)
Col de Meraillet (1605)
Cormet de Roselend (1968m)
Col de L’Iseran (2764m)
Col de la Madeleine
Col de Mont Cenis (2,081m)
Col de Sestriere (2035m)
Col de Montgenevre (1865m)
Col d’Izoard (2361m)
Col de Vars (2111m)
Cime de la Bonette (2802m)
Col de Raspillon (2513)
Col de Fourches (2261)
Col de la Couillole (1678m)
Col de Valberg (1673m)
Col de St Raphael (876m)
Col de Bleine (1439m)
Col de Castellaras (1248m)
Col de Sine (1108m)
Col de Ferrier (1039m)
Col du Pilon (786m)

I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink
Slapshot 3

Bartali wrote:
Back in Blighty all safe and sound.  6 days from Lake Geneva to Antibes and a whole lot of col bagging!

Col des Moises (1118m)
Col de Terramont (1080m)
Col de Jambaz (1027m)
Col de la Ramaz (1557m)
Araches Les Frasses (1008m)
Megeve (1107m)
Col de Saisies (1,633m)
Col du Pre (1740m)
Col de Meraillet (1605)
Cormet de Roselend (1968m)
Col de L’Iseran (2764m)
Col de la Madeleine
Col de Mont Cenis (2,081m)
Col de Sestriere (2035m)
Col de Montgenevre (1865m)
Col d’Izoard (2361m)
Col de Vars (2111m)
Cime de la Bonette (2802m)
Col de Raspillon (2513)
Col de Fourches (2261)
Col de la Couillole (1678m)
Col de Valberg (1673m)
Col de St Raphael (876m)
Col de Bleine (1439m)
Col de Castellaras (1248m)
Col de Sine (1108m)
Col de Ferrier (1039m)
Col du Pilon (786m)

I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink


FFS Bart thats 45,876metres of climbing.. (150,512ft in old money) that's mindblowing...
Boogerd_Fan

Slapshot 3 wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Back in Blighty all safe and sound.  6 days from Lake Geneva to Antibes and a whole lot of col bagging!

Col des Moises (1118m)
Col de Terramont (1080m)
Col de Jambaz (1027m)
Col de la Ramaz (1557m)
Araches Les Frasses (1008m)
Megeve (1107m)
Col de Saisies (1,633m)
Col du Pre (1740m)
Col de Meraillet (1605)
Cormet de Roselend (1968m)
Col de L’Iseran (2764m)
Col de la Madeleine
Col de Mont Cenis (2,081m)
Col de Sestriere (2035m)
Col de Montgenevre (1865m)
Col d’Izoard (2361m)
Col de Vars (2111m)
Cime de la Bonette (2802m)
Col de Raspillon (2513)
Col de Fourches (2261)
Col de la Couillole (1678m)
Col de Valberg (1673m)
Col de St Raphael (876m)
Col de Bleine (1439m)
Col de Castellaras (1248m)
Col de Sine (1108m)
Col de Ferrier (1039m)
Col du Pilon (786m)

I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink


FFS Bart thats 45,876metres of climbing.. (150,512ft in old money) that's mindblowing...


Only if he started from sea level for every climb right?? Razz

It is an absurd list. You must have treetrunk legs like Evans!
Fontfroide

Bartali must have the data for the climbing.  With all those bikes he must have a gizmo that does total climbing.  Whatever the final number it will be very high.

But it's no big deal, he took several days to do it.   Laughing
Slapshot 3

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Slapshot 3 wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Back in Blighty all safe and sound.  6 days from Lake Geneva to Antibes and a whole lot of col bagging!

Col des Moises (1118m)
Col de Terramont (1080m)
Col de Jambaz (1027m)
Col de la Ramaz (1557m)
Araches Les Frasses (1008m)
Megeve (1107m)
Col de Saisies (1,633m)
Col du Pre (1740m)
Col de Meraillet (1605)
Cormet de Roselend (1968m)
Col de L’Iseran (2764m)
Col de la Madeleine
Col de Mont Cenis (2,081m)
Col de Sestriere (2035m)
Col de Montgenevre (1865m)
Col d’Izoard (2361m)
Col de Vars (2111m)
Cime de la Bonette (2802m)
Col de Raspillon (2513)
Col de Fourches (2261)
Col de la Couillole (1678m)
Col de Valberg (1673m)
Col de St Raphael (876m)
Col de Bleine (1439m)
Col de Castellaras (1248m)
Col de Sine (1108m)
Col de Ferrier (1039m)
Col du Pilon (786m)

I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink


FFS Bart thats 45,876metres of climbing.. (150,512ft in old money) that's mindblowing...


Only if he started from sea level for every climb right?? Razz

It is an absurd list. You must have treetrunk legs like Evans!


Figured that but even so........
gerry12ie

That's savage climbing! Well done, hope you enjoyed it.



Nutcase Very Happy
Bartali

Slapshot 3 wrote:
FFS Bart thats 45,876metres of climbing.. (150,512ft in old money) that's mindblowing...

Shocked ha ha ... no, only 16,300m in 740km - bloody hard work though!
Guiness

Shocked Well done mate. Looks like a shocker. Seriously well done.
MrsSR

And you did that lot for a rest??? Don't want to steal Mr SRs thunder by pre-empting his usual post holiday ramble but it puts my efforts in Bourg de Oisans to shame.  Embarassed
SlowRower

MrsSR wrote:
And you did that lot for a rest??? Don't want to steal Mr SRs thunder by pre-empting his usual post holiday ramble but it puts my efforts in Bourg de Oisans to shame.  Embarassed


For a fee, I am prepared to lie shamelessly in my "ramble" to preserve your honour. The usual terms apply... Wink
SlowRower

gerry12ie wrote:
That's savage climbing! Well done, hope you enjoyed it.



Nutcase Very Happy


Seconded!
Guiness

Bartali wrote:
I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink


Looking forward to a good read.
maffy

i know it's one of those cliche things that web-forii are always arguing about, like shimano/campag and h*lm*ts, but i'd like to strongly disagree with the OP. i rather like marmite.
gerry12ie

maffy wrote:
i know it's one of those cliche things that web-forii are always arguing about, like shimano/campag and h*lm*ts, but i'd like to strongly disagree with the OP. i rather like marmite.


Very Happy
MrsSR

SlowRower wrote:


For a fee, I am prepared to lie shamelessly in my "ramble" to preserve your honour. The usual terms apply... Wink

Curry and a pint on Friday it is then.
SlowRower

MrsSR wrote:
SlowRower wrote:


For a fee, I am prepared to lie shamelessly in my "ramble" to preserve your honour. The usual terms apply... Wink

Curry and a pint on Friday it is then.


You drive your usual hard bargain, m'lady, but it's a deal.  Very Happy
Guiness

Guiness wrote:
Bartali wrote:
I'll let you all know how it went after I've had a little lie down Wink


Looking forward to a good read.


Bartali we are waiting! Story please.

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