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Jens Voigt Retires and Revives The Hour Record

Didn't read anything here about the race in Colorado...Anyway, TJ won and Voigt used it as his last professional race....

Jens Voigt retires after one last breakaway attempt

Germany's Jens Voigt insisted the time was right for him to retire from cycling after making a final breakaway attempt in his last professional race.

The 42-year-old finished his 17-year career at the USA Pro Challenge race, which ended on Sunday in Denver.

The Trek rider said: "It was a priority for me to keep the rubber side down. I wanted to give it one last go.

"I try to look at the positive side. No more suffering. No more stress. No more risk of crashing."

Voigt, who won two individual Tour de France stages in his career and one at the Giro d'Italia, after getting in a break, told BBC Sport that "you have got to try it 10 times to make it work once".

He tried on stage four of the seven-stage race in America but was caught in the final kilometre. He went again on Sunday's 78-mile leg from Boulder to Denver before being reeled in again and settling for 34th on the stage and 24th overall.

"I was going to try to be a professional to the last moment on the bike," said Voigt, who was famous for shouting "shut up legs" when fatigue set in during a race.


http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/28924400
MAILLOT JAUNE

He's a legend. Have met him twice - last time on the Champs Elysee at the end of this year's Tour, wish I'd thought to wish him good luck in his retirement! D'oh!
Fontfroide

Six languages, six kids, a very serious, very good rider.   I always liked him.  Still, he lasted a long time.  Sad to see him go.  I still remember the crash a few years back.
levi

one of my favourite riders i will miss him and the peloton
will miss him what a great rider. wish him all the best in his retirement,he will not be far from cycling.
Boogerd_Fan

Despite some of the teams he rode for.. he managed to keep it relatively quiet on the drugs association, which is quite unusual given his pro racing period 1997-2014.

Easily liked.. i hope he stays in the sport, maybe broadcasting would be a good move! He can explain best how those riders in a break must be feeling as their gap gets eaten by the speeding bunch.
Mrs John Murphy

Some of his comments about doping have been pretty stupid and brought him down in my estimation.
mazda

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/voigt-to-attempt-hour-record
Biosphere

I have an hour to kill on the way home tonight Wink
HuwB

51.115kph and it was really boring to watch. Smile
Biosphere

We amused ourselves with Mexican Waves Smile
mazda

It's on ES now.
mazda

Were you there ?
mr shifter

HuwB wrote:
51.115kph and it was really boring to watch. Smile
So why are you a Glutton for punishment. ??
mr shifter

I didn't think Jens was capable of an hour record ride and with all the Rule changes I have lost interest in the present day rules, so to put it into perspective :-

1 Chris Boardman (Manchester, UK)* September 7, 1996 56.375
2 Tony Rominger (Velodrome du Lac, Bordeaux)* November 5, 1994 55.291
3 Tony Rominger (Velodrome du Lac, Bordeaux)* October 22, 1994 53.832
4 Miguel Indurain (Velodrome du Lac, Bordeaux)* September 2, 1994 53.040
5 Graeme Obree (Velodrome du Lac, Bordeaux)* April 27, 1994 52.713
6 Chris Boardman (Velodrome du Lac, Bordeaux)* July 23, 1993 52.270
7 Graeme Obree (Hamar, Norway)* July 17, 1993 51.596
8 Francesco Moser (Mexico City)* January 23, 1984 51.151
9 Jens Voigt (Grenchen, Switzerland ) September 18, 2014 *** 51.115
10 Francesco Moser (Mexico City)* January 19, 1984 50.808
11 Ondrej Sosenka (Moscow, Russia) July 19, 2005 ** 49.700
12 Chris Boardman (Manchester, UK) October 27, 2000 49.441
13 Eddy Merckx (Mexico City) October 25, 1972 49.431
14 Ole Ritter (Mexico City) October 10, 1968 48.653

I remember Moser sold a lot of his Vinyard wine labeled 51.151
Bartali

Good for him, but its a strange record now IMO - neither one thing nor the other.  Great move by the UCI to regenerate interest .... but what does it mean?  Jen's ride is way off Boardman's 1996 ride but better than his 'real' bike 2000 ride?
Biosphere

mazda wrote:
Were you there ?


I was. Watching someone cycling in a circle for an hour is an endurance event in itself Wink

It was actually quite good fun. In the middle third it seemed he was flagging based on lap times, but last third when he picked it up and went for it, the crowd really got behind it. He said afterwards that he had gone off too fast and had showed it down deliberately.

Probably not of much significance in the big scheme of things raised by Bart and Mr.S, but the opening up to allow modern legal bikes isn't a bad thing IMO, and if Wiggins and Martin have a go it will be good. Martin Irvine would be better though Smile That said (unbeknownst to me at the time) I could photo Voigts SRM as he came past each time and he was at 455W and had a heart rate of 186 at the end of the hour, so I don't think he's an unworthy holder in any sense and for someone who spent so many hours on fruitless solo efforts it's not a bad way to sign off.

It would have been interesting though to see if Trek's Plan A of Cancellara on a road bike would have come to fruition had the UCI not changed the rules in May.
mazda

I'm sure it was exciting to be there.

He was riding a lot more smoothly than he normally does, nicely locked in position - might not have recognised him.

I assume you had the same info we had - average speed, last lap time, time comparison with previous record (oddly they represented it as how many seconds he was ahead, not how FAR he was ahead).

Plus you had the SRM info Wink

I had the pleasure of the ES commentary team for 45 minutes.
Magnus was understandably well excited about his buddy.
Seemed up for trying to beat the old penny-farthing record when it was suggested.
gerry12ie

It could breathe some life in to the record now as Trek and Specialized might be interested in going head to head for it with their big guns...
SlowRower

Good effort by Jens. Not to downplay the achievement, but his margin of success was such that the final 15 minutes would have been on the manageable side of very painful, whereas Boardman's margin of circa 10 metres over the previous record must have hurt like God knows what, which rather appeals to me.

To put in perspective just how old Jens is, he won a series of 2-up TTs with Boardman in 1999 I recall from the "Final Hour" that documented Boardman's 2000 record attempt, that his last warm up event on the road was a 2-up TT with Jens (where they got beaten by couple of USPS guys preparing for the Sydney OGs. I wonder who they were? Smile)
Slapshot 3

Wish I could have been there it looked a fantastic atmosphere. Chapeau Jens!!
mr shifter

Bartali wrote:
Good for him, but its a strange record now IMO - neither one thing nor the other.  Great move by the UCI to regenerate interest .... but what does it mean?  Jen's ride is way off Boardman's 1996 ride but better than his 'real' bike 2000 ride?
I thought the record had to be on a "Real Bike" and Boardman's record was done under their "New UCI Rules"  so what the hell did Jens ride now to satisfy these very latest New UCI rules. ??
You cannot get more Real than Graeme Obree's hand made bike.
The UCI killed the Hour Record and now they alter the rules again to create interest in what has become a Dead Duck. Rolling Eyes


EDIT
April 15, 2014
Fabian Cancellara’s Hour record attempt on hold as UCI decides rules
UCI debating on what type of bike, cyclists can use to attempt Hour record

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Now see a proper "Track Bike" and if they could set a new W/R on one without Air Conditioning.
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blog...2547/400/988148/met-bru_27-07.jpg

To be found on show, on a platform of the Brussels Metro Station called Eddy Merckx.
Messengers and Commuting cyclists still ride these track bikes around major USA Cities.  Rolling Eyes
Biosphere

mazda wrote:

I assume you had the same info we had - average speed, last lap time, time comparison with previous record (oddly they represented it as how many seconds he was ahead, not how FAR he was ahead).


More or less. All of that except the last lap time on a big screen on far side of velodrome. Was able to read the iPad of his time keeper though so could track lap times too.

A few snaps from last night. Nothing special but I share anyway. Interesting challenge try to photograph cycling under fluorescent lighting. Got myself a front row seat so was lucky on my vantage point Smile

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In keeping with fashion, the standby bike had tan sidewalls

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Warming Up

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Getting ready

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Lots of laps

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5 minutes to go - 455W and 186HR

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The breakthrough lap

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Thanks and Goodnight

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MAILLOT JAUNE

Great photos Bio. Must've been amazing to be there. Watched it Live on Eurosport. Regardless of the UCI, it's brilliant to see the Hour Record back in the limelight.
mazda

That didn't last long.
Browsing the TV guide I noticed there was a World Hour record attempt last night  Shocked

Quote:
Austria's Matthias Brandle has set a new hour world record of 51.850km at Switzerland's Aigle Velodrome.
Fontfroide

Apparently Brandle's idol was Jens.  Ironic?
Anyway he was only doing it before Wiggo or Cancellara gets to the record.  
I am glad the record is getting back in the limelight, but frankly what kind of bike and why is so complicated it is a bit like figuring out which drugs give which effects.  But it is true that when you look over the list of record holders, some of the recent guys don't seem to be quite the caliber of other record holders.  

Waiting for Fabian and Bradley to have a go.
Biosphere

So Bobridge failed last night. Whilst crap for him, I think it's actually good that people are failing as if everyone that was having a go was going further than the man before it would sort of diminish it somehow (IMO)

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/01...-300km-for-new-australian-record/

Interesting plot of speeds over the hour - Voigt really played it safe though Bobridge still went further (180m) even if he overcooked it at the start. Brändle still has 500m margin on a supposedly more difficult track - tighter due to being shorter.

Biosphere

Went along to Grenchen this afternoon to see Dennis have a go. Moved it out another 600m to a shade under 52.5km. Brought the eldest and we crashed the hospitality area afterwards. A grand day out and matched the hour record and retirement theme of this thread rather nicely Smile


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Bartali

Who's the fella on the left photo bombing your shot ... hate it when that happens Wink
Mrs John Murphy

Keith Richards photobombing. Cool.
gerry12ie

Nice Bio, he's getting a very cool indoctrination.  Better than the Jesuits... Wink
berck

I've been reading that too much aerobic exercise can make you age faster... Wholly smokes, Cadel looks older than me!
Mrs John Murphy

berck wrote:
I've been reading that too much aerobic exercise can make you age faster... Wholly smokes, Cadel looks older than me!


And his voice still hasn't broken.
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Nice Bio, he's getting a very cool indoctrination.  Better than the Jesuits... Wink


I'm more worried about precedents than indoctrination. The Mrs. might suggest I take him to everything from now on Wink

I actually thought Evans looked a lot less weathered than he seems on TV. Voice sounded quite reasonable too. I was left thinking if the camera doesn't lie, then it certainly stretches the truth!
Mrs John Murphy

How was his dog?
Biosphere

Just spotted that Dowsett has just started and at least here he's live on ES2.
Boogerd_Fan

he's done it!

52.9km
HuwB

Showed the importance of getting the pacing spot on.
Great ride.
Bartali

Enjoyed that.  Seemed to have a bit more in the tank too ...
Boogerd_Fan

Whoever is responsible for TV coverage really needs to get their act together and have a proper timer etc.. i watched the end on eurosport, and heard the Dowsett interview, where even he didn't know if he'd done it - and there was a sense of disappointment that there was indeed still something left in the tank (according his speech).

then the officials declared the record lol.
Bartali

Christ Wiggins is a big head ....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/w...ld-break-the-hour-record-tomorrow
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
Christ Wiggins is a big head....


I think only time will tell. If he does do something close to 55k then being able to ride 53k "tomorrow" will be seen as a reasonable claim.

By predicting 55k, he could smash the record by a kilo and still be seen as a failure!

Overall, though, when racing the clock, there's no point trying to gain a psychological advantage by "trash talking" and my preferred approach would simply be to say "Training is going well, so let's see what happens on the day".
Bartali

Agreed.  Its not his ability I question, just his lack of grace.
SlowRower

If anyone is near Hull on the afternoon of Sat 16th May, Wiggo is riding a 10 mile TT on the A63. It's reputedly the fastest 10 mile course in the UK and he wants the national record!
mazda

Is it televised  Wink
SlowRower

mazda wrote:
Is it televised  Wink


Apparently not. The rumbles and vibrations from the passing HGVs that drag riders to ridiculously fast times / blow riders into ditches are too much for TV cameras.

Plus it's Hull and no self-respecting cameraman wants to go there!
Boogerd_Fan

do they have electricity up there?
SlowRower

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
do they have electricity up there?


Sometimes. Depends if there are enough southerners to throw into the furnaces to keep the boilers steaming!
Bartali

Hull not only has its own electricity, it has its own telephone service. The only place in the UK not served by BT - it has its own distinctive cream coloured telephone boxes - and the first place in the UK to have a fully digital network.

My chum is off about 20 minutes after Wiggins.  He might not be as fast, but he is a gentleman!!
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
Hull ..the only place in the UK not served by BT


This was once a good thing, but now Hull is the only urban location in the UK where you can't get unlimited broadband on a residential tariff. Not a major issue unless you have teenage kids with a heavy social media / online gaming habit, which is the situation afflicting friends of ours. (I was genuinely shocked when I found out just how much data kids can get through once they get warmed up.)
Bartali

Im not sure whether you are suggesting this is a bad thing or a good thing.  I think I would err on the positive aspects though only having a butler, gardener, maids and a chauffer who are contracted to 20+ hour working days its never really been a problem for me.
SlowRower

Update - Wiggo's TT is actually Weds 20th May. He's off at 730pm. My mate is last off!

Re broadband - data is the only currency that kids really understand these days. They act like drug addicts going cold turkey when the connection goes down and will do anything to counter a threat to change the wifi password! (All other threats they can largely wait out...)
mazda

Saw a survey that reports Hull having the second highest incidence of smoking in the UK (or was it just England, not that I'm suggesting that Scots smoke more than the English).
Clearly, kids are forced out on the the street due to lack of decent, affordable broadband which in turn provides more opportunities for them to be introduced to the habit.
Best keep them inside and tethered to the internet.
Evil or Very Mad
mr shifter

Bartali wrote:
Hull not only has its own electricity, it has its own telephone service. The only place in the UK not served by BT - it has its own distinctive cream coloured telephone boxes - and the first place in the UK to have a fully digital network.
You have Kingston upon Thames that is known as Kingston.
Now meet the other King's Town with a charter to prove it, Kingston upon Hull and I tell you if your going to Hull then you will be getting "Wet" in the River Hull.
The most heavily bombed City/Town in the UK outside of London which is some of the things I learnt as a child. (also the first lessons of government and media manipulations that people believe)
A fact not known because the Media had to report that a severe Bombing Raid took place on a North Eastern Town. (other towns got named)
Why,? Well the bombers could use the Humber to navigate to Manchester/Liverpool/Sheffield or Leeds and any thing left they gave to Kingston on their way back.
There were plenty of places in the Heavy winter of 48 to put the snow clearance mountains.
mr shifter

mazda wrote:
Saw a survey that reports Hull having the second highest incidence of smoking in the UK (or was it just England, not that I'm suggesting that Scots smoke more than the English).
Clearly, kids are forced out on the the street due to lack of decent, affordable broadband which in turn provides more opportunities for them to be introduced to the habit.
Best keep them inside and tethered to the internet.
Evil or Very Mad
There's a lot of bike racing originates from this City and stage 1 Tour of Yorkshire shows the terrain they ride.
The football team is going back to a more familiar place and there is also an excellent University.
Bartali

Pleased that "Mr Arrogant" failed in his bid to break Dowsett's British 10 ITT record.
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
Pleased that "Mr Arrogant" failed in his bid to break Dowsett's British 10 ITT record.


Well I'm glad you're happy, Bart, but that does seem a rather sad attitude. It's just not cricket, old chap.

There was a very cold gale blowing on Saturday, which actually makes the time he did rather impressive.
mr shifter

`
I'm very impressed with Wiggins.
That he still rode the event knowing the Hyped bid would fail in those conditions of High Winds.  
Quote from spectators and riders that the Wind was Brutal.
It is reported that he was at 9 miles in 15 mins and ? secs.

That he changed (possibly in a Team Wiggins Bus ?) and then went to the Event HQ to have a friendly chat and sign autographs with his cup of tea and to the delight of those there.

I noted his time of 17:58  equaled his PB  Competition Record of 2006 riding for Cofidis.
So what the hell he can do in an Air Conditioned Velodrome for an hour.
SlowRower

mr shifter wrote:
`
I'm very impressed with Wiggins.
That he still rode the event knowing the Hyped bid would fail in those conditions of High Winds.  
Quote from spectators and riders that the Wind was Brutal.
It is reported that he was at 9 miles in 15 mins and ? secs.


12C and 30kmh westerly wind. Not ideal when the return leg is long (it's not a true "out and back" course) and into the wind.
mr shifter

mr shifter wrote:
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That he changed (possibly in a Team Wiggins Bus ?) and then went to the Event HQ to have a friendly chat and sign autographs with his cup of tea and to the delight of those there.

He could still buy his Wensleydale on his way home to Wigan.

Of Course, it wasn't the wind that upset his concentration but the evening before.
Wigan Warriors 12 - 16 Hull Kingston Rovers.  Rolling Eyes
Bartali

Alway impressed with his pursuit and ITT abilities, but I just have a problem with his ego.  We saw it in his road race days ("anyone can win a Tour stage") and we saw it with the disrespectful comment about Dowsett's record.  Great that he signs autographs and meets the fans ... but I can't help think that its all to massage his ego rather than anything else.

It is sad ... but that's just how I feel about him.
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
It is sad ... but that's just how I feel about him.


Maybe getting a bit deep here, but what was the feeling of pleasure like when you heard the "news"? I was always pleased whenever a Seb Coe record attempt went awry, but I was 12 at the time and considered rather odd, even then!

I could understand it if Dowsett beat Wiggo head to head, as you could be pleased for Dowsett's success rather than Wiggo's failure but deriving pleasure from Wiggo failing to beat a TT record in a gale just seems so out of character for you unless you have some personal connection to Dowsett.

Oh well. Roll on the Hour attempt where there will be no wind - and no excuses!
Bartali

I had a wry smile ....

I would be pleased if, like most people, he just let his legs do the talking, but I see no reason for running fellow professionals down whether or not he is a better rider.  To be honest, given his track and ITT prowess, he can afford to be generous and gentlemanly more than most.

So, whether beaten by the weather or not, I was just pleased that he hasn't got the record.  

I don't know Dowsett, but he comes across as a genuine chap.  His 'hour' was controlled and relatively comfortable, but he didn't find it necessary to suggest the last guys effort was crap.
SlowRower

OK. I see where you're coming from.

Anyway, this is the film from the GoPro of Wiggo's "minute man". Nice to see the rainbow stripes on the A63!

The speed at which Wiggo goes past is impressive, but check out the crowds on the bridges!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02rnyr1
SlowRower

Go on Sir Brad!
gerry12ie

Kirby - the second half is all uphill
gerry12ie

What is Coe at?
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
Kirby - the second half is all uphill


Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

I imagine that was an intentional joke in fairness.

His pace is impressive, even if he is slowing slightly now. I had expected him to keep closer to the black line on average though.
gerry12ie

Fair play Wiggo he smashed it in fairness.  It might stay smashed for a while too...
Beasley

The black line may be the shortest way, but it's almost never the quickest. The optimal strategy in pursuiting is to drift a little towards the red line on the straight to make the turn shallower. What's lost in excess distance on the straight is more than made up for by increased speed through the corner.
SlowRower

Nice work Sir Brad.

Nice touch for Big Mig to be there. Not sure about Bruyneel though. (Isn't he banned for life from UCI events?)

I wonder if Bobridge (more evenly paced) and Tony Martin will have a go? I assume Dowsett is now planning an autumn attempt when some low pressure could be expected.
Bartali

A solid ride ... and he looked to have a bit more in the tank though not as much spare as Dowsett.

Quite pleased that he didn't add another km as that might have 'killed' the record.  As it is it is out there to be shot at which is a good thing I think.

As an aside, where do we stand on the use of equipment that isn't commercially available?  Beasley?? I noticed he attempted the 10 in Hull with 'one-off' pedals.  Is that allowed under the Regs for track and ITT?
Biosphere

According to the Procycling write up on Dowsett, commercially available is taken to be satisfied even if 1 was available to buy. Therefore an extra bike was built to sell.

Surprised Canyon didn't approach you through discrete back channels to check if you wanted to add to your collection Bart Wink
Fontfroide

Somewhere I read that Dowsett is in no hurry at all.  He figures he will take a shot for sure, but has years to do it.  Polite and respectful thing to do really, especially since it would take some weeks about of anyone's training.  Let some Johnny Foreigner break the record before a fellow Brit does.

Sir Brad did look really good from the side on the bike.  Almost like he was built into the bike and the bike was built for him, maximum position.   Really was impressive to my eye.
mr shifter

Fontfroide wrote:

Sir Brad did look really good from the side on the bike.  Almost like he was built into the bike and the bike was built for him, maximum position.   Really was impressive to my eye.

Most unlike my Hero "Graeme Obree's" bike and position that he came to KENT one Saturday evening to break the Comp 10 mile record.
The next morning on the same bike and position he rides up and over Manston each way to break the Comp 50 mile record while winning the National Championship.
A week or so later on the same bike and position they take him to France and he breaks the Hour Record.
What an Athlete and Wiggo would have looked foolish if he hadn't beaten his distance with all that technical equiptment.   scratch
Mrs John Murphy

Biosphere wrote:
According to the Procycling write up on Dowsett, commercially available is taken to be satisfied even if 1 was available to buy. Therefore an extra bike was built to sell.

Surprised Canyon didn't approach you through discrete back channels to check if you wanted to add to your collection Bart Wink


Dowsett crying foul

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/33050858
Boogerd_Fan

more like Dowsett's team crying foul
Bartali

Biosphere wrote:
According to the Procycling write up on Dowsett, commercially available is taken to be satisfied even if 1 was available to buy. Therefore an extra bike was built to sell.

Surprised Canyon didn't approach you through discrete back channels to check if you wanted to add to your collection Bart Wink


...and what makes you think it isn't already on my wall Wink
Biosphere

Bartali wrote:
...and what makes you think it isn't already on my wall Wink


It's not Italian Wink
Bartali

LOL ..... Smile

Very true ... you were right all along!!
Mrs John Murphy

An interesting crowd at Lea Valley

http://www.stickybottle.com/lates...ur-record-chats-with-pat-mcquaid/



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MAILLOT JAUNE

Wow, MJM, what a picture!
Mrs John Murphy

Isn't Hog supposed to be banned for like 10 years from cycling, and yet there he is yucking it up with Pat McQuaid.

It's pretty clearly not 'oh I thought I'd buy a ticket and check it out from the stands' but the invite only after party.

It's a bit WTF
MAILLOT JAUNE

Oh, you are sooooo right and isn't that David Millar slurping a glass of wine in the background as well???? A den of dopers!
Nolte

Obviously they were all online between 10am and 10:07 am on the day the tickets went on sale and were very luck Wink
Mrs John Murphy

Wiggins always did love Hog.
SlowRower

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Isn't Hog supposed to be banned for like 10 years from cycling, and yet there he is yucking it up with Pat McQuaid.

It's pretty clearly not 'oh I thought I'd buy a ticket and check it out from the stands' but the invite only after party.

It's a bit WTF


It's certainly odd, but according to various reports, JB simply paid £200 per ticket for some "VIP" tickets for him and some friends rather than being invited. I read that Wiggo did invite Big Mig.

I guess whoever was selling the tickets could have declined to sell tickets to specific named individuals, but it appears no-one thought that anyone banned would try and turn up. And the UCI ban only applies to active participation in sport. I'm not sure having a few bevvies with Pat McQuaid on the infield counts as active participation.
Bartali

SR - do you not find it surprising that they got tickets for the inner circle?  Thousands of applicants and tickets going in hours if not minutes .... but JB is lucky enough to get some.  Hmmm ... you're a statistician, what are the chances of that?  

Or perhaps someone on the 'inside' invited them?  I don't imagine it was anyone associated with Team Sky, but equally I don't believe he got them like joe punter.
SlowRower

Bartali wrote:
SR ... but JB is lucky enough to get some.  Hmmm ... you're a statistician, what are the chances of that?


Well someone wins the lottery each week on much less favourable odds. "It could be you" and maybe it was Johann?

However, in the absence of facts to the contrary, always assume an inside job. Presumably McQuaid arranged it as a p*ss take.
Mrs John Murphy

Having Hog and McQuaid there is a bit like inviting Jimmy Savile and Dave Lee Travis to your party.

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