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| Bartali |
Ideas and comments pleaseOk ... assuming my assailant coughs up the cash, what should I go for next. Something very light is a must - I'm thinking Cevelo R3-SL, Colnago Extreme-C, or another Ghisallo.Ideas and suggestions welcomed ... |
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| Slapshot |
what about the new orbea Orca??
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| Bartali |
Nice berg - very nice - how much does it weigh? | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
Get the bugger to pay for a De Rosa Protos.
Or, go with a Look 585. |
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| Slapshot |
the frame is only 1kg!
More info here http://www.orbea.com/ingles/inter...p?tipo=1&familia=1&gama=1 |
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| thunderthighs |
i would stick with italian made.. not becuz iam italian but experience in frames
we are second to none... colnago steel/carbon very good..pinarello "onda" super but i would suggest "gios carbon" if you are a light spinner.. i have my old colnago mexcio, steel.. my fav.. and pavan cycle loaned me a pinarello prince.. forever..lol.. i hate it.. seat tube is on 73.5.. my colnago is a 76..custom.. same super record on a 54/41 ring... ciao |
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| cardinal guzman |
Chris Newton's Pinarello - mmmmm 
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| Dr.Wierd |
I don't know, just something about the forks and seatstays that make it look gimmicky to me. | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
Here you go, build your own...you could have your very own 'Bartali Special'
http://www.novacycles.com/catalog/index.php |
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| sheeponabike |
I agree. I find that a really ugly bike. Bartali, get something that LOOKS good at least. 
Ferrus in titanium - not expensive. Frame costs 850euros and they look fantastic built up. |
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| sheeponabike |
Here's a built-up one. I mean it LOOKS like a bike. Not like these new Italian jobs with ponced up curves and bulges.
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| kellyrocheearly |
Orbea Opal all the way Bartali, wonderful bike and a bit cheaper than the Orca. Very comfy on long rides too for a carbon frame | ||||||||
| Bartali |
Looks a lot like my Ghisallo ... in its pre-smash days! |
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| cardinal guzman |
Lol - don't be stuck in yer ways old timer!  
The curves make sound aerodynamic sense and the biks really does look stunning 'in the flesh'. That said, if I had big money I'd be spending it on a custom frame with 953 tubing..... http://www.waterfordbikes.com/boa...=b7460fa73b75e4214c19299e62fd01f9 |
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| CapeRoadie |
The bamboo Calfee, Bartali. Step outside the box! Suitable for racing, too. The above pic is an Ironman triathlon bike.
Here's the hemp fiber seat cluster: 
I'd get two. One to ride, and one to hang on my wall as art! www.calfeedesign.com |
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| bbnaz |
My buddy loves his custom Calfee..........when he bought it a few years back the frame was around US$1,800 | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
http://www.bmeres.com/bambooframe.htm | ||||||||
| chasm |
I know steel is unfashionable these days, but there's nothing like it for feel and now they're using tubing less than 0.4mm thick (no, I don't know how they make it strong enough) it doesn't weigh much, either. When I replace my current roadie I might go along to talk to these people:
http://www.nimbuscycles.co.uk/ I like the sound of their attention to detail, especially with regard to riding position and reducing the load on the lower back. Might be worth £100 for their fitting service to find out, anyway. The bikes are beautiful, too: nothing terribly flash, just simple, elegant bikes that look like bikes. |
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| Slapshot |
This is the top of the range of spiuk, one step ahead of mine, 
tech spec http://www.spiuk.com/productos/documentos/aura.pdf |
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| Bartali |
Lovely - some great suggestions by one and all ... though I can't really see myself riding a bamboo steed! 
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| CapeRoadie |
I know, I know; it's just too-- weird! How about this Batman bike: 
or this Parlee: 
Check out these builds, Bartali! http://www.parleecycles.com/galleries.html |
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| Slapshot |
What about BMC????
[img]http://www.bmc-racing.com/popup-view+M564f959b0e7.html[/img] |
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| Bartali |
Now those I LIKE!!!!
Who are these pk0r.com people? Is it a shop?? not clear from the website! |
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| CapeRoadie |
USA PARLEE Cycles 119R Foster Street, Building 13 Peabody, Massachusetts 01960 Not far from where I live, Bartali. One day I will own one...one day... Check the link at the bottom of my post, B. It's all there. Wait, here: http://www.parleecycles.com/ Okay? |
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| Bartali |
Lovely. Plain black Z3 it is then! | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
Whith the exchange rate now, buy two! |
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| sheeponabike |
Impressive site.
But I get the impression they haven't been in the business very long. Where did you hear of these guys cape? Are they near your place? |
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| CapeRoadie |
Parlee has been building carbon frames longer than any major bike manufacturer out there from waht I've heard. He's a small operation, in Peabody, Massachusetts, just north of Boston. His stuff is AMAZING from everything I've read. Found out about Bob Parlee from Pez: http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4694 His bikes have been featured at Interbike and in Bicycling and VeloNews magazines as well. Pretty popular guy, boatbuilder turned bikemaker. Local legend around these parts. 
This man will build you a kick-ass bicycle. Many pros are riding them with fresh team paint... |
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| Dr.Wierd |
In other words,....he's a client.
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| Slapshot |
so what is it going to be??? | ||||||||
| Bartali |
Good question ... need to see how much money I can get out of the b***ed!
I like the look of the Parlee Z3, but I also like my Ghisallo. Both are compact frames and very light. Tell you what - looking at bike porn is the onlything keeping me going at the moment - that and chating to my JustCycling buddies! Carbon or Titanium? Any thoughts? I've never ridden carbon - last bike was steel! |
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| berck |
I went from steel to carbon and I've been very happy. I'm now on my second carbon and will never go back to steel. In the future, I might look at a Ti bike, but money is always an issue. I've found carbon to be stiff, but yet forgiving. Meaning, that it tends to absorb more road jarring than steel, but still has a stiffness to it at that same time.
This is actually a good time to look at new bikes. Many companies are starting to push their 2008 models so that the old 2007 models are being heavily discounted. That's how I got such a great deal on my Madone 5.2 SL |
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| Bartali |
Thanks Berck - trouble is I can't aford anything until the insurance or annual bonus kicks in! I'll try carbon before I buy. | ||||||||
| Slapshot |
I went from Alu to carbon, and I wont change it for anything, sweet rides!!! | ||||||||
| berck |
You still have time. I suspect that by the time you get you insurance payment, they'll still be pushing out some 07 models. | ||||||||
| headwind |
Its all about the carbon bartali!!!!! | ||||||||
| headwind |
so Bartali...any thoughts on what you might be getting next as you mend? | ||||||||
| headwind |
those lightweight wheels are the tits Cape...Id love to know what a pair feels like. | ||||||||
| Bartali |
Chris, There's a shop in London that has a couple of Parlee demo bike that will be worth a try when I can turn a pedal. Still like the Ghisallo too. So much bike porn out there to be drooled over before I can aford a new one. (Lawyer says it might take a while!) Till then its my MTB or my 27 year old Pink Battaglin (drooling in 'old school' super record)!
LW Ventoux ... now there's a wheelset to drool over! You ride Look don't you? How do you find it? |
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| headwind |
Hi Bartali...I have a TIME. And its awesome...if you are thinking carbon, I would give them high marks. Unlike virtually all other carbon makers, they actually weave their own fabric from spools...they control the spools, and they control the weave, and both are used to optimize different parts on a frame. Plus, I went with the translink optioon, meaning no seatpost...ior slipping or freezing etc. Its been a great frame based on 2500 miles or so.
Look at em... hw mine is an Edge Translink |
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| headwind |
by hte way...youre up awefully late!! | ||||||||
| headwind |
http://www.time-sport.com/us/home.htm | ||||||||
| CapeRoadie |
You will soon my friend... |
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| CapeRoadie |
Bartali, I've heard nothing but good things about:
Parlee Time Merlin Independent Fabrications Colnago Cervelo Pinarello and many others. Specialized and Trek are also great companies. To each his own! btw, that was a picture of Bob Parlee himself! |
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| headwind |
you seriously gettting a set of Lightweight's? christ they're 3000$!!!! | ||||||||
| Bartali |
Yeah I know. I was watching fonda and bronson in Once upon a time in the west. Bronson wins the gunfight everytime I see this film. Fonda needs to practice more! Time - of course it is. Don't know where I got the idea of Look from. Must have been thinking pedals. I'll check out a lot of stuff when I'm up and about - including Time. As you might have guessed I would love something Italian, but there isn't much out there that's super light - Extreme C is probably woth a look. This is the silver lining to my accident - I love bike porn! |
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| Bartali |
Good man! Standards or are you trading the car in for a pair of ventoux or obermayers?
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| headwind |
seriously bartali....3500-5500$!!!!
O U C H!! |
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| Bartali |
Well if Cape's got the big bucks!? |
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| Dr.Wierd |
another to add to the mix
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2.../probikes/tour_mayo_saunier_scott |
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| sheeponabike |
Tie a house brick under the seat? |
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| Bartali |
Cheers Dr W. Certainly satisfies my weight requirements. But why the Rooster/chicken paint job???? |
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| CapeRoadie |
Didn't I tell you two that I'm getting the carbon C-50 Neuvations for $800--for the pair! Zipp and HED can kiss my arse! |
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| Dr.Wierd |
I wondered the same thing, maybe Mayo is really big into cock fighting?!? |
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| headwind |
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg...story&id=5147&status=True
If you are thinking Ti still Bartali...come visit me here in Tenn and get yourself a custom Lynskey...the founders of Litespeed are on their own. hw |
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| Bartali |
Thanks HW I got seriously distracted by the "Distractions di Tour" on that link! Very nice ! |
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| headwind |
ahh yes, the pez distractions are rather easy to get lost in! | ||||||||
| CapeRoadie |
You mean the goils? | ||||||||
| headwind |
indeed | ||||||||
| sheeponabike |
Interesting site that hw! I like the "bike build" article and pics. | ||||||||
| CapeRoadie |
That's how I almost met the great hw. Didn't you ride for Pez in '05? For the ToH? I wish they were still doing that ride! |
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| headwind |
Yeah I met Pez shortly after he launched his web site and it became as big as it is today. Hes really a great guy and done great work with the page. I did get a press cred for ToH that year but the article got lost in a string of mutual bumbles, and by the time it was all sorted, it was long past interesting. I check in there all the time. They do some of the absolute best tech reporting anchored by Charles Manatan. And theyve seen alomst all the high end kit in the world. |
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| CapeRoadie |
Agreed. Love that site. I think I first about it from you.
What??? |
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| headwind |
just go to theur tech link and read the titles...absolutely amazing reports, all in depth with lots of pix. cant beat it for techie stuff.
hw |
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| sheeponabike |
brilliant - I love this kind of stuff - cheers hw. |
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| headwind |
avec pleasure sheep! | ||||||||
| Bartali |
Tour of H??? | ||||||||
| headwind |
Tour of Hope. It was a ride the Lance Armstrong Fdn set up for raising funds. Im no Lnace fan, but thats worthy work in my book.
hw |
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| CapeRoadie |
How can you not like the guy for doing these charity rides all over the USA and Canada? | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
Because he's an ugly american?!? My fiance lost her mum and I lost and uncle to cancer. I donate yearly and still wear my wristband. I think its great they give away for free to cancer patients Survivorship notebooks and worksheets. Its not medicine, but in a way I'm sure it helps. |
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| forza_petacchi |
Best place to look is eBay. I got my Trek 2300 (2005) for less than half MSRP, and it rides fine (carbon fork, seatstays, seatpost). | ||||||||
| forza_petacchi |
Second thoughts, if you get enough out of this arse, buy a Cervelo SLC-SL.
Here's Gerard Vroomen talking about the bike: http://cervelo.tv/player.aspx?m=3&id=5&s=1014 |
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| Bartali |
Cheers Forza - I intend to get every buck I can! Cervelo is certainly on my list. Thanks for the link. |
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| Dr.Wierd |
How is this list looking so far? Give us your list so far so we can pick it apart and try and sway your decision. 
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| Bartali |
Okay guys. I'm pretty much there, but I don't want to influence your thinking ...
Litespeed Ghisallo Cervello R3SL Parlee Z3SL Colnago Extreme C (sloping tube) Remember this has to be a very light climbing bike tat also has that 'coolness' factor! Apologies for omitting some very good recommendations Obrea, Time De Rosa .... but there are so many super frames to chose from Cheers |
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| Dr.Wierd |
My vote goes for the Colnago first, R3 SL second. (Although I would have the SLC-SL a close second)
You going to get a carbon bearing BB? |
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| headwind |
oh bartali...its all about you...so many good things out there and all that has to be pleased is you!
I see Ti has lost its glitter a tad given the lump of fine carbon I see there! Thats a great list, but Id probably put the Cervelo at the bottom of it from somethings Ive heard. The Parlee is certainly major bling and he knows the carbon inside and out. Id prob put the Nag and the Parlee side by side with stats and see what comes out...Parlee certainly has the hand build with love in spades. Better you than me choosing in this bunch! hw |
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| CapeRoadie |
[whispers quietly] Parlee...Parlee...Parlee... | ||||||||
| headwind |
I agree cape...but no sense in whispering:
PARLEE!!!!!!! |
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| bbnaz |
This is a great thread and what makes the forum such an excellent spot to loiter in.
Bartali.........will be very interested in hearing what you choose and as for you not seeing yourself on bamboo? well with all of the computer goofs here certainly someone could photoshop you onto one for a spin
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| Dr.Wierd |
Tarzan theme? Bartali on a bamboo bike in his leopard thong........shudder the thought. | ||||||||
| headwind |
somehting i just dug up on parlee you might like bartali
http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4694&status=True |
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| bbnaz |
that was just way cool hw. i loved reading it. | ||||||||
| sheeponabike |
I'm a fan, thanks to hw, of this pez site thingy. You can mess about in there for ages. 
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| Bartali |
Cheers HW - Good article! |
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| bbnaz |
fess up sheep. you only like it for the pictures
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| Dr.Wierd |
That site annoys me. It always locks up, and the daft pics of the women, and focus on high end equip makes me think that the guy behind it is some smug smarmy wank. | ||||||||
| Dr.Wierd |
Here's a site that may be of interest when you build up your bike.
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/ |
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| bbnaz |
sorry but weenies and wank in conjoining posts made me laugh out loud
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| Bartali |
Thx Dr W. It's a great site!! Posters on their forum can be a bit rude, but its a weath of information about bike bits. Someone has an opinion on everything! |
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| Bartali |
BB - you're naughty!
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| Dr.Wierd |
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=104601
Link to road bike review thread of a guy between Parlee and Storck. Seems some others chimed in about Crumpton. I'd check him out at this price range. i like the look of these better than the Parlee. http://www.crumptoncycles.com/ |
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| Bartali |
Thanks Dr. Sure are nice looking bikes.
I've gone and plumped for a custom Parlee Z3SL- partly because they are gorgeous and partly because they are more accessible to me in the UK as there is a great shop in London that imports them from the US. I'll keep you posted as the build progresses. |
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| Dr.Wierd |
Wow Bartali, thats great. Should be a lot of fun, hope the grin will be ear to ear when you hop on it. | ||||||||
| Bartali |
I hope so!!
"When I hop on" Not sure that was supposed to be a joke, but in my current condition I thought it was very funny!!
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| Dr.Wierd |
Shall we say 'Hop-along Harry' ?
All in good fun. |
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| Bartali |
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