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smarauder68

I'm gonna buy a bike...HELP!!!

The last bike(mountain bike with fat tires for cobblestones) I owned was stolen outside a bakery in Frankfurt, Germany as I pondered "puddingbretzel" or "apfelstruedel" on a beautiful autumn morning in 2004.

Apparently I deliberated too long, giving my $450.00 bike away to some enterprising punk....after moving to San Antonio in 2005 I was disenchanted to buy a new bike because of the hot and humid weather...but a slew of feet and knee injuries has put my running/jogging days in peril...

Time to buy a new bike and this time I'm leaning towards a road bike since I don't have cobblestone or dirt paths to worry about.

I plan to use it for training rides, and will eventually block out an extra hour in the mornings.

This process is a bit scary for me because I have no clue which type of bike to start with.

I'm open to spending up to 700 or 800....not looking to take on Bart or Bergar anytime soon...Just need something reliable and decent for paved roads.

Any suggestions?
sheeponabike

Depends what your budget is. Are you buying in the States? If so, Cape or Headwind will help you best. If you're buying in Europe let me know.
And chapeau sm Wink

ok just noticed your price range - in dollars I assume?
Slapshot

Good on you!!!!well done!
headwind

well done SM...Im sure youll love it. lots to choose from at that price point. And truth be told, exactly the brand of bike makes not that much different at this pricepoint. because of your interests and desire to make cycling a regular thing, the single most important thing by far is a bike with a proper fit. all the extra carbon bits and bobs or anything really arent that meaningful if the bike isnt right. Id go in a get a proper sizing from a couple shops to see how close they are and then test ride a number of bikes at that size and a bit bigger and a bit smaller. In the end, your body with tell you what fits and rides best. Youre mostly looking at an aluminim frame with some carbon bits, like a fork. The best thing you can do to culture youre desire to continue riding is get a bike you wnat to be on and that plain feels and looks good to you.

My advice: get fitted a couple times at different shops and see how they compare. test ride a number of bikes, and let them talk to you. Some very nice Specialized's that would serve you well is my guess.

hw
Bartali

Good for you Tex Wink

Great advice from HW. Some very reliable machines at that pricepoint from all the usual suspects: Specialised, Scott, Trek, Giant etc. But fit is the most important thing.
Dr.Wierd

There should be atleast one bike shop in your area that has an has an adjustable 'fit' bike that will get your measurements. Then you can go from there. As Bartali said, stick with the big boys, Trek, Giant, specialized. A good idea as have the bike shop adjust stuff during your test ride and see how they are. Are they helpful in making sure you get the proper fit?, chances are they'll help you out more down the road.
smarauder68

Bartali wrote:
Good for you Tex Wink

Great advice from HW. Some very reliable machines at that pricepoint from all the usual suspects: Specialised, Scott, Trek, Giant etc. But fit is the most important thing.


I'm not sure I understand what type of "fit" you guys are referring to....I take it you're not referring to raising and lowering the saddle....lol
Dr.Wierd

size of frame, s, m,l or xl, or 54, 56, etc. plus does the stem need spacers, the length or angle of stem
Bartali

Back in the day they said if you can sit on the saddle and touch the floor with your toes you are okay! I'm afraid its a bit more complicated these days - and for good reason. Basically you want a bike that fits your body - especially at our age when its so easy to pick up little niggling injuries. You need to be comfortable - thats the priority.
sheeponabike

as Dr W says, there are different sized frames for different sized people. Once you've found what sized frame you need you can fine tune the position with hight of saddle, hight of bars, reach etc. But as has been mentioned, a good bike shop will sort you out size wise.
smarauder68

Bartali wrote:
Back in the day they said if you can sit on the saddle and touch the floor with your toes you are okay! I'm afraid its a bit more complicated these days - and for good reason. Basically you want a bike that fits your body - especially at our age when its so easy to pick up little niggling injuries. You need to be comfortable - thats the priority.


isn't it just about one's height? How tough can it be to fit a bike for a 6'1 guy?
Bartali

smarauder68 wrote:
Bartali wrote:
Back in the day they said if you can sit on the saddle and touch the floor with your toes you are okay! I'm afraid its a bit more complicated these days - and for good reason. Basically you want a bike that fits your body - especially at our age when its so easy to pick up little niggling injuries. You need to be comfortable - thats the priority.


isn't it just about one's height? How tough can it be to fit a bike for a 6'1 guy?


You jest right? How much of that 6'1'' is body and how much is legs etc etc etc.
forza_petacchi

I'm 5' 11" and I have a 58 cm frame, so you're probably looking at ~60 cm. Also, you should use eBay, you can get some serious bargains there.
Bartali

forza_petacchi wrote:
I'm 5' 11" and I have a 58 cm frame, so you're probably looking at ~60 cm. Also, you should use eBay, you can get some serious bargains there.


Better still, support your LBS (that's Local Bike Shop). They'll sort you out with something that fits and make all the little adjustments. They'll also be there if something goes wrong or if you decide to start upgrading with carbon and titanium bike bling!
forza_petacchi

Just be careful in your choice of LBS. There is a very popular one in my neighborhood, but their service is crap and the people are not very nice. I use another, smaller shop which has good service and polite people.
Dr.Wierd

Better yet, check the skip behind the LBS and find a nice rusty trade in. Thats all you need to get to the local boozer
smarauder68

Bartali wrote:
forza_petacchi wrote:
I'm 5' 11" and I have a 58 cm frame, so you're probably looking at ~60 cm. Also, you should use eBay, you can get some serious bargains there.


Better still, support your LBS (that's Local Bike Shop). They'll sort you out with something that fits and make all the little adjustments. They'll also be there if something goes wrong or if you decide to start upgrading with carbon and titanium bike bling!


ever been to America, Bart??

one of the worst aspects of life in America is the absence of local anything...its all corporate and chains...I will start shopping soon!

Thanks for the advice to everyone!
sheeponabike

Bartali wrote:
forza_petacchi wrote:
I'm 5' 11" and I have a 58 cm frame, so you're probably looking at ~60 cm. Also, you should use eBay, you can get some serious bargains there.


Better still, support your LBS (that's Local Bike Shop). They'll sort you out with something that fits and make all the little adjustments. They'll also be there if something goes wrong or if you decide to start upgrading with carbon and titanium bike bling!

I'd second that, never buy a first bike off the internet. Always buy from your lbs, who will always follow-up problems and justify those few extra quid.
Bartali

smarauder68 wrote:
Bartali wrote:
forza_petacchi wrote:
I'm 5' 11" and I have a 58 cm frame, so you're probably looking at ~60 cm. Also, you should use eBay, you can get some serious bargains there.


Better still, support your LBS (that's Local Bike Shop). They'll sort you out with something that fits and make all the little adjustments. They'll also be there if something goes wrong or if you decide to start upgrading with carbon and titanium bike bling!


ever been to America, Bart??

one of the worst aspects of life in America is the absence of local anything...its all corporate and chains...I will start shopping soon!

Thanks for the advice to everyone!


Both North and South Tex Wink

Seriously though - I was under the impression that every town had a good independent bike shop?
Dr.Wierd

There is. All bike shops are independents. There might be small regional chains, but thats about it.
forza_petacchi

Actually Performance Bike is more or less a national chain, but they have good service and great prices, especially online.
Dr.Wierd

They've had their catalog for a while, but stores across the US is new.
shimouma

The Giant OCR range are worth looking at, smarauder.

I've been riding one for a good few years. Though there is a limit on the amount of traffic I'm willing to dodge - so I can't really vouch for them if you're planning on going over a 100k on a regular basis.
crash48

Like everyone is saying SM, get yourself fitted correctly, it makes a big difference in enjoying your ride.


Tell us what you have been looking at.
thunderthighs

got to a bike shop, they will fit you... fit is..inseam in inchs deduct 10 inchs thats frame size.. lenght of top tube plus stem, your nose shud not stick out..
do not go really fancy stay under 2500.. shop in 2 months.. october is clear out time for bike shopd..


ciao
Dr.Wierd

thunderthighs wrote:
shop in 2 months.. october is clear out time for bike shopd..


ciao


so true, best advice yet
mayofan

my suggestion would be to go to your bike shop, get fitted up and look for something aluminium..dont bother with carbon or with compact gears or anything like that..and if your handling skills are good get yourself one with old-fashioned gear levers..thatll save you 100 dollars plus

then when you get much fitter and are sure youre dedicated to serious training buy something fancier
bbnaz

shifters on the down tube? I have those Wink on my TREK touring bike. On my Baker I have fancy schmancy shifters in the brake levers.
berck

Currently, all the 2007 Trek models and LeMonds are discounted because they have already pushed the 2008 models out. Otherwise, most shops have their sales around September or October time frame.

With you size, you'll probably need a 58 or 60 cm bike. I'm the same height and can use either size. I've preferred the 58 because I have a more aero position with it.

Like others, I highly recommend going to a good LBS and getting the bike fit. If you're not sure about which ones are good, ask around the local bike clubs for suggestions.
bbnaz

Make sure you check the inseam as TT says.

As much as I hate to confess, he can be occasionally correct Rolling Eyes
thunderthighs

bb..tell our audience when i have been wrong, i will tell them when your are right....... topspin..

ciao
CapeRoadie

TT is right about things bike-related. I'd get an aluminum frame with carbon fork and carbon seat stays or seat post.



Personally, I'd find the models and makes I like, have them fitted, then go buy the bike on e-Bay. I am loyal to my LBS, however. George Sykes is the man.
headwind

Look SM, the basic thing limiting things is your budget. at 7 bills, you are gonna get an Aluminum frame bike with a carbon fork. you might get carbon seat or chain stays. Be sure the bike feels good when you are perched on it and that you want to ride it. its likely to be shimano 105 level which is an excellent gruppo...in fact, Id be sure that is the drive train you get as long a a decent frame. tou can always add little bits and bobs like handlebars, seatpost, saddle etc later.

hw
redster73

My first bike was off the internet and has served me well (200/$450). I'm 6" and now have a custom fitted 56cm so be wary of size. What I only realized when I first picked up the new machine was even the handlebar width was fitted to my size which has an impact on the state of my shoulders after a ride!

If you do go second hand you can always upgrade certain components. I have a director sportif friend who told me if your'e gonna upgrade anything upgrade wheels - when i did the difference in ride was incredible.
redster73

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCM?PAGE=FIT_CALCULATOR_INTRO

This may help
headwind

Thats a good start redster, and the lemond equation is also common...but when I did both I got different sizes! One thing I ve learned, theres nothing like your own body to tell you when the bike is the right size and all the fit calculators do is get you to the right window.

hw
paperman

Basically, in my experience the right fit means...... if you get it wrong......lots of neck, and or shoulder, and or back pain. Get your pedals right too.. otherwise... hello knee pain. Welcome to road riding. You could look at a cyclocross bike. Fine for fitness and a bit of off road work. Should you feel tempted again. I'd love one but can't afford it right now. Maybe ebay.

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