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Fontfroide

Hudz

Hudz?

I just saw an advert for these brake lever hoods.  They supposedly deal with the slight annoyance of the pressure on the bit of my hand between thumb and forefinger which does get a touch sore sometimes.  I would love to spend a few euros on hoods that are kinder on that part of the hand.

Anyone try them?
last km

Sounds like some low life chav from Milton Keynes  Shocked
Fontfroide

Actually, the u has an umlaut over it.  Except sometimes I can't do that accented letter.  the names they give things these days.  But it is one of the minor problems of life, and therefore of cycling that might just have a solution.  Too many things are too complex to solve, and we just muddle along.  The questions is, are these things a rip off or a solution.  I suppose the next thing will be selling of Ringz.
maffy

not tried them as i've not got any brake levers new enough. have a nice red a'me pair on aero gran compe levers which were new in 1988. there was a bit more padding on the red ones than the originals, and they still work 21 years later.

they is pretty colourz, and a box of hi tech cable donutz would make a lovely if expensive present for a small girl to make necklacez and stuffz from.

the sockz sound nice, although they do not specify colour.
Bartali

I hear good things ... and they look good.  Not tried them though.
thunderthighs

more gadgets..maffy i have a pair too, bullet proof levers..

ciao
maffy

who would have ever thunk you'd get a bunch of mac users discussing coloured brake hoods Laughing

mac accents, you say? (alt-u) then u

if you open international control panel and input menu tab, then tick show input menu in menu bar, and add/check keyboard viewer palette to your list...
then in the flag menu at the top right, open show keyboard viewer and hold down the alt key, it'll show you the accents available. you can use it to type with the mouse too, if you were ever to pour liquid into your keyboard.

back to hdz. i suspect the ergonomic claim may just be snake oil, and the colour choice is their main selling point. after all, we don't all have the same size hands, we don't all like the same amount of bar tape etc.
my agc levers are almost exactly the same look as a pair of non-shifting shimano aeros on another bike. however, there's less metal under the rubber on the agc, and they're much comfier for me. have a couple of pairs of 8speed shimano brifters, and find them fairly comfy. never tried any modern campags. for me, being long of arm and torso and short of leg, i find that level-ish levers are far comfier than the rotated towards you look that seems to be common these days, particularly out of the saddle. if you're comfy on the hoods you've got, a bit more padding could do the trick.

[heresy]
you could try cutting a strip of padded bar tape to fit along the top of your existing hoods, and two bits of tape the other way around on the bottom, then wrapping it all up with insulating tape.
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however, it could just be that hdz people like the look of their bike more with coloured hoods, and that makes them feel comfier.

turns out that you might still get a'me hoods. is it nearly het volk yet?
Bartali

maffy wrote:
For me, being long of arm and torso and short of leg, i find that level-ish levers are far comfier than the rotated towards you look that seems to be common these days.


Nah ... its because (like me) you hark back to the eighties and true classic style! Wink
Fontfroide

maffy wrote:

[heresy]
you could try cutting a strip of padded bar tape to fit along the top of your existing hoods, and two bits of tape the other way around on the bottom, then wrapping it all up with insulating tape.
[/heresy]



While I am normally in favour of heretics, of any sort, and have always admired the fix it with a piece of aluminium foil and "a stick of bamboo that was on the road" type of repair, I have got lazy lately.  If there is a product that works, and I can afford it and buy it, I often do.  although my budget does mean its only cheap things I buy.  I justify this often by saying it might be the last gadget I buy.

Then there is the other thing.  I do have to ride my bike on the club run on Sundays, full of French guys who spend thousands on their bikes.  I am of a firm temperament and strong self-image, but showing up with a bike full of bits of tape and so forth is not going to help me integrate fully into the French way of life.  You should see these guys.  

Anyway, its a good idea and I am going to try it out during the week, and maybe remove it before Sunday.  Embarassed
cardinal guzman

Hi FF,

presuming you are already gelled up in the glove department, hudz may help as they look like they are a softer plastic than standard, though I'd get them from my LBS if I was getting some so as to have a good mess with them first.

Their attention to detail isn't that great - they still have moulding flash round them.

Sounds to me like you spend too much time on the hoods in a compressed position - get a longer bike!
Fontfroide

I am particularly concerned about compression in my cervical 4 and 5, I think they are called.  The more upright my position, the less compressed my damaged vertebrae are.  When I am on the drops, we are talking serious pain or ache emerging in a short time.  I do spend almost all my time on the tops or hoods.
cardinal guzman

Fontfroide wrote:
I am particularly concerned about compression in my cervical 4 and 5, I think they are called. The more upright my position, the less compressed my damaged vertebrae are. When I am on the drops, we are talking serious pain or ache emerging in a short time. I do spend almost all my time on the tops or hoods.


I'd think about a touring frame and as many spacers as you can fit on your steerer tube. Shorter cranks will help your back as well as they force a 'spinning' cadence rather than a rocking 'stepping machine' grind, keeping your spine more aligned.
Fontfroide

One day I will get some new cranks and maybe try shorter ones.  Good thought.  I got the bars up pretty high, although I could go higher, more spacers.  Eventually you are right though, I need a new frame that responds to exactly what I need to keep the pains away for as long as possible.  I thought that as I get older, if it gets worse, I might be forced to buy a recumbent, which I have always fancied riding.   But I also have to find a pot of money to do that.

Thanks for the thoughts.
SlowRower

Fontfroide wrote:
I am particularly concerned about compression in my cervical 4 and 5, I think they are called. The more upright my position, the less compressed my damaged vertebrae are. When I am on the drops, we are talking serious pain or ache emerging in a short time. I do spend almost all my time on the tops or hoods.


Are they the vertebrae at the top or the bottom of the back? Backs are evil things if you mistreat them and I don't think any gadget or position to achieve comfort should be ruled out. My 4th and 5th lumbar jobbies (at the bottom) have long since given up on mobility to the extent that for me, an "aero position" on the bike is to be on the MTB bars rather than the bar ends! I can't bend over enough to ride a traditional road bike these days. Sad
Fontfroide

SlowRower wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
I am particularly concerned about compression in my cervical 4 and 5, I think they are called. The more upright my position, the less compressed my damaged vertebrae are. When I am on the drops, we are talking serious pain or ache emerging in a short time. I do spend almost all my time on the tops or hoods.


Are they the vertebrae at the top or the bottom of the back? Backs are evil things if you mistreat them and I don't think any gadget or position to achieve comfort should be ruled out. My 4th and 5th lumbar jobbies (at the bottom) have long since given up on mobility to the extent that for me, an "aero position" on the bike is to be on the MTB bars rather than the bar ends! I can't bend over enough to ride a traditional road bike these days. Sad


I will check the Xrays tomorrow.  Too late tonight.  It is the neck though.  Just plain damaged.  Need to keep it as straight as I can.  I keep going using what help I can get.  The idea of not being able to ride is too much to contemplate.  There is also a menacing pain in the right arm/shoulder that has persisted for a year.   Also trying to sort that.  I really should not go on about this, I have too many medical stories.  Asking about the Hudz was just seeing if anyone knows about gadgets that work.  I recently went back to my old Brooks Prof with large rivets, and put a double layer of cork tape on the tops, as well as the saddle more forward.  Feels better.
SlowRower

FF,

I'm sure you have many more miles in you yet!
Fontfroide

Not that this will make anyone's day, but I looked and it appears that what I call a aching or sore neck turns out to be arthritic decay between C4 and 5 And C5 and 6, with a "dehiscence" (whatever that is) of the core of the posterior ossification of C7.  As far as I can tell, there is nothing to be done for that and one day I shall have to get a recumbent.  Or tootle around on a sit up and beg.  My days of time trialling (which never existed anyway) are pretty much over.  I can, however, get down on the drops on not too long, clear, dry descents.  

And thanks for the good wishes.  I too hope that my days on the bike will be long and happy.  I have to admit to never being happier than when on the bike on a lovely sunny day (we have those in the South of France, even in winter) with not much wind, in the company of someone who rides at about my speed.
cardinal guzman

FF, if you're not doing already, start taking Glucosamine and chondroitin. With mild arthritics they don't do anything but with more advanced arthritic symptoms, they can be 80% effective.
chasm

cardinal guzman wrote:
FF, if you're not doing already, start taking Glucosamine and chondroitin. With mild arthritics they don't do anything but with more advanced arthritic symptoms, they can be 80% effective.


This is bollocks, actually. What clinical trials really show is that 80% of patients with severe arthritis experienced significant reduction of pain when taking these supplements. That is very different from claiming "80% effectiveness".

And if you think that 80% experiencing some benefit is impressive, bear in mind that in the same trial 54% of patients on a placebo reported similar improvement. So the evidence is that while glucosamine and chondroitin is useful, it's no miracle.

Statistics need interpretation.
cardinal guzman

chasm wrote:
cardinal guzman wrote:
FF, if you're not doing already, start taking Glucosamine and chondroitin. With mild arthritics they don't do anything but with more advanced arthritic symptoms, they can be 80% effective.


This is bollocks, actually. What clinical trials really show is that 80% of patients with severe arthritis experienced significant reduction of pain when taking these supplements. That is very different from claiming "80% effectiveness".


Sounds like 80% effective to me.

chasm wrote:
And if you think that 80% experiencing some benefit is impressive, bear in mind that in the same trial 54% of patients on a placebo reported similar improvement. So the evidence is that while glucosamine and chondroitin is useful, it's no miracle.

Statistics need interpretation.


Statistics certainly do need interpretation or context, and in the context of drug efficacy, 80% is an absolute bloody miracle, but don't take my word for it......


Quote:
A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.

Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.

It is an open secret within the drugs industry that most of its products are ineffective in most patients but this is the first time that such a senior drugs boss has gone public. His comments come days after it emerged that the NHS drugs bill has soared by nearly 50 per cent in three years, rising by 2.3bn a year to an annual cost to the taxpayer of 7.2bn. GSK announced last week that it had 20 or more new drugs under development that could each earn the company up to $1bn (600m) a year.

Also See:
Demolished: The Myth That Allows Drugs Giants to Sell More


Dr Roses, an academic geneticist from Duke University in North Carolina, spoke at a recent scientific meeting in London where he cited figures on how well different classes of drugs work in real patients.

Drugs for Alzheimer's disease work in fewer than one in three patients, whereas those for cancer are only effective in a quarter of patients. Drugs for migraines, for osteoporosis, and arthritis work in about half the patients, Dr Roses said. Most drugs work in fewer than one in two patients mainly because the recipients carry genes that interfere in some way with the medicine, he said.

"The vast majority of drugs - more than 90 per cent - only work in 30 or 50 per cent of the people


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1208-02.htm
maffy

try the red ones ff. they seem quick Wink

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