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Help! incompetent student seeks a road bike

I have decided to buy an affordable road/racing bike, probably from one of several decent local bike shops.  My budget is about £700 including the cost of kit etc. Iíll be hopefully initially be doing about 100 miles a week on it (at least 20 miles a ride, often more), on fairly hilly roads around Exeter in England

I have  narrowed it down to three options,
The bianchi via narone 7 alu  xenon compact (10 speed). (or a similar model)
The specialized allez 18 speed
And the Trek 1.5T 9 speed or maybe an 8 speed model  
(all cost roughly £500- £600 at the bike shops)

However I am open to other suggestions. For example is it worth buying on the internet? And what kind of insurance is it worth having on the bike?
Any thoughts/advice on my potential purchases?
headwind

Re: Help! incompetent student seeks a road bike

badbrains wrote:
I have decided to buy an affordable road/racing bike, probably from one of several decent local bike shops.  My budget is about £700 including the cost of kit etc. Iíll be hopefully initially be doing about 100 miles a week on it (at least 20 miles a ride, often more), on fairly hilly roads around Exeter in England

I have  narrowed it down to three options,
The bianchi via narone 7 alu  xenon compact (10 speed). (or a similar model)
The specialized allez 18 speed
And the Trek 1.5T 9 speed or maybe an 8 speed model  
(all cost roughly £500- £600 at the bike shops)

However I am open to other suggestions. For example is it worth buying on the internet? And what kind of insurance is it worth having on the bike?
Any thoughts/advice on my potential purchases?


Well done for seeking some advice...and for getting a new rig.  I always tell those getting a first bike the same two or three things:

1) Sit down at the shop and get a decent fitting so that you know what dimensions your body needs in a bike. At that price point, you can get a very nice roadie.

2) Test ride a number of bikes that fit you and are in your price point.  Its my long term look at this that many bikes simply "speak" to their suitors.  It has always been true for me. Some bikes feel right, and others dont.

3) Be careful not to be persuaded by a few bitties of flashy carbon on an otherwise ho hum bike.  Get a well made frame.

Random advice: you really cant get a proper carbon frame at this price. You can expect to get a very respectable steel or Al frame.  A carbon fork is standard.

Enjoy exeter and surrounds...just gorgeous countryside...and lay off the clotted cream...or just ride harder!

hw

heres a great frame that would build at your price:

chasm

All Headwind's advice is good. Additional points:

1. Don't buy on the web unless you're very confident about the size of frame you need and how to set it up.

2. Spend as much as you can afford on the frame, if necessary compromising on other components. You can always upgrade chainset, shifters etc when you can afford it if the frame's a good one.

3. Wheels are the second most important thing after the frame.

4. Look for a deal. Lots of suppliers will have last year's models that they are trying to shift to make room for new stock.
sheeponabike

This is all good advice, especially not buying from the net, but you seem to have made the decision to consult your LBS anyway which will pay dividends in the future.
You're lucky - buying your first bike is an exciting moment - be sure to come back and tell us what you bought.
last km

badbrains where abouts are you from, we may be able to advise of a decent shop in your area ?
badbrains

Well I currently live in Exeter (Devon) as my first post suggests,
there seems to be two fairly decent bike shops
sidwell cycles
and  a place called bikehut
last km

Isnt bikehut the new "Halfords" ? as per the British pro team which after the w/e have two national champions....
Bartali

Do everything HW and Chasm advise - its good advice.  Then buy the Bianchi! Smile Smile
headwind

by the way, i have that Bianchi (its presently stranded in Sweden!), and its a very nice bike.

hw
MAILLOT JAUNE

sheeponabike wrote:
This is all good advice, especially not buying from the net, but you seem to have made the decision to consult your LBS anyway which will pay dividends in the future.
You're lucky - buying your first bike is an exciting moment - be sure to come back and tell us what you bought.

+++++++++1
Totally agree about not buying from the net...with the proviso unless you know how the bike size is measured, have tried out exactly the same size, make, model etc in a shop. I've just made a very expensive mistake. Got measured at the local Specialized dealer, I even sat on the same frame size of a bike in for repair in the shop, although saddle was a bit too high). The bike I wanted wasn't in stock and he couldn't get it for me, so armed with correct size etc I confidently ordered one on-line from Evans Cycles (is that advertising?) for delivery to Holland. Put bike together and took it to aforementioned dealer to get it set up correctly....the first thing he said to me was " that bike's too small for you"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could have hit the guy! I've also had to take a few days off work to await delivery of the bike, only to be told by UPS that they couldn't deliver it that day even though they said they would and then when I had to return it, same story with UPS to come and collect it. The past month has been a NIGHTMARE! Evans Cycles, have been absolutely great and very helpful!
MerlinGuy

headwind wrote:
by the way, i have that Bianchi (its presently stranded in Sweden!), and its a very nice bike.

hw


HW,

How many bikes to do you own that you can't actually get your hands on?

Just asking.

MG
badbrains

I've been to try out two bikes today at a place called 'bikeshed' why I called it Bikehut in an earlier post I do not know.

They don't stock Bianchi bikes so it was interesting to hear what they had to say about them. They basically said the cheaper ones are not as good as the comparable Trek's and Specialized bikes something to do with them being a smaller company, so costs are higher and as a result the components on the cheaper bikes aren't as good (ie the one I am looking at), they also went on about Bianchi being 'niche' and spare parts hard to source. I took this with a pinch of salt, as there is probably truth in it but for all I know it could be exaggerated.

I tried out the Trek and the specialized I mentioned before. I was informed the Trek frame is better (the staff mechanic was of the opinion that trek had nailed it with the 2008 range of bikes) but the specialized have better components as they get them from various companies rather than one. Even I could tell the gears were better on the specialized, they changed more smoothly and they were 9 speed rather than 8 speed.

All of this was interesting, any opinions?
headwind

MerlinGuy wrote:
headwind wrote:
by the way, i have that Bianchi (its presently stranded in Sweden!), and its a very nice bike.

hw


HW,

How many bikes to do you own that you can't actually get your hands on?

Just asking.

MG


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Bartali

badbrains wrote:
... they also went on about Bianchi being 'niche' and spare parts hard to source.


I've heard this said by non-bianchi stockists and in my opinion it is rubbish.  What sort of spare parts do they have in mind?
bbnaz

headwind wrote:
MerlinGuy wrote:
headwind wrote:
by the way, i have that Bianchi (its presently stranded in Sweden!), and its a very nice bike.

hw


HW,

How many bikes to do you own that you can't actually get your hands on?

Just asking.

MG


1


would that be the F bike?
last km

badbrains wrote:
I've been to try out two bikes today at a place called 'bikeshed' why I called it Bikehut in an earlier post I do not know.

They don't stock Bianchi bikes so it was interesting to hear what they had to say about them. They basically said the cheaper ones are not as good as the comparable Trek's and Specialized bikes something to do with them being a smaller company, so costs are higher and as a result the components on the cheaper bikes aren't as good (ie the one I am looking at), they also went on about Bianchi being 'niche' and spare parts hard to source. I took this with a pinch of salt, as there is probably truth in it but for all I know it could be exaggerated.

I tried out the Trek and the specialized I mentioned before. I was informed the Trek frame is better (the staff mechanic was of the opinion that trek had nailed it with the 2008 range of bikes) but the specialized have better components as they get them from various companies rather than one. Even I could tell the gears were better on the specialized, they changed more smoothly and they were 9 speed rather than 8 speed.

All of this was interesting, any opinions?


The jurys always out on Campag vs Shimano, Ive got both and find either more than acceptable, in my opinion 9 speed is fine, not so with 10 speed, theres an issue with chains breaking.
My opinion is go for the best gruopset you can afford within your budget...
badbrains

Well I think I've finally decided on a bike, rather fortunately sidwell's had a second hand bianchi that belonged to a club rider and was rarely used, there is barely any marks on the frame.

It has a campagnolo veloce 10 speed gears/groupset, carbon forks, ambrosio wheels, along with various other components I cannot remember the names of. As well as a slightly different Nirone frame to this years bianchi as it is last years model. It's cheap as well at around £450 considering it cost as according to the shop staff it cost in the region region of £900 new. It comes with warranty as it was originally sold by them and they are fully equipped to do any repairs etc.

The only issue is that it's blue and not mint green, but I'm really pleased on the whole as it seems to be a bit of a bargain. Tomorrow's the day i do all the paperwok etc.
paperman

Well wear with the bike. Have fun. Ride safe.
redster73

badbrains wrote:
Well I think I've finally decided on a bike, rather fortunately sidwell's had a second hand bianchi that belonged to a club rider and was rarely used, there is barely any marks on the frame.

It has a campagnolo veloce 10 speed gears/groupset, carbon forks, ambrosio wheels, along with various other components I cannot remember the names of. As well as a slightly different Nirone frame to this years bianchi as it is last years model. It's cheap as well at around £450 considering it cost as according to the shop staff it cost in the region region of £900 new. It comes with warranty as it was originally sold by them and they are fully equipped to do any repairs etc.

The only issue is that it's blue and not mint green, but I'm really pleased on the whole as it seems to be a bit of a bargain. Tomorrow's the day i do all the paperwok etc.


Everyone has a green Bianchi time to stand out and enjoy...
Bartali

I hate to be a pedant, but surely the 'mint green' is infact Celeste Blue!

Anyway, whatever the colour, you have bought into a tradition that harks back to Pantani, Gimondi, Coppi and beyond.  Happy riding Badbrains.
last km

badbrains wrote:
Well I think I've finally decided on a bike, rather fortunately sidwell's had a second hand bianchi that belonged to a club rider and was rarely used, there is barely any marks on the frame.

It has a campagnolo veloce 10 speed gears/groupset, carbon forks, ambrosio wheels, along with various other components I cannot remember the names of. As well as a slightly different Nirone frame to this years bianchi as it is last years model. It's cheap as well at around £450 considering it cost as according to the shop staff it cost in the region region of £900 new. It comes with warranty as it was originally sold by them and they are fully equipped to do any repairs etc.

The only issue is that it's blue and not mint green, but I'm really pleased on the whole as it seems to be a bit of a bargain. Tomorrow's the day i do all the paperwok etc.


Looks like you got a decent bike there, invest in one of this easy fix chain links in case that 10 speed chain does a "Millar" †Wink
sheeponabike

As bartali says, you're in good company


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