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Biosphere

Giro Pre-Race Discussion

Came across this while trying to find the Irish part of the road book for me Dad. Pictures of girls and bikes and things.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditali...ownload/GIRO_PROFILE_2014_WEB.pdf
HuwB

I expect some will have seen and read this, but there's a very good stage preview thread over on CN.
All the stage maps, profiles, main climbs etc, plus an overview and summation, from a resident Italian poster.
Also, when available, a "Pantani Tribute", which features links to Rai Sport 2's "Perle de Sport"; an archive show
that features the best moments in Italian sport, over the years.

The linky:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=22213

Enjoy.
HuwB

A thread on Velorooms.
Bartali should like this, as it's a slice of cycling history from the Giro:

http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=5484.msg153485#new
Bartali

Thx Huw!!
gerry12ie

BBC Northern Ireland have live coverage of the first three stages

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/27252199

It's difficult to get a handle on how this Giro might go IMO.  Quintana is a very short-priced favourite but hasn't really shown much this season, that said he should have enough to win if he shows his form from last July.  Three TTs will probably do for J-Rod's chances although given their formats they might not prove terminally damaging if he has the form - but he hasn't shown any.  Evans has gone well so far but will he have the legs for three tough weeks?  Others worth consideration have only sketchy chances at best - Diddy Domenico, Uran, Martin, Scarponi - but Majka at 50/1 seems to be a bit of value if you are into that kind of thing...

And so to the great gift bestowed upon cycling fans from Pat/Shadetree/Acquarone - a spin down the coast of a damp, miserable rock in the Atlantic.  If the weather is inclement and windy then stages 2 & 3 could cause a GC shakeup and the TTT is long enough to have a serious impact on someone's chances if it goes wrong.  In fairness, stage 2 along the Antrim coast should be pretty to watch but the roads are not in great nick on a few stretches of stage 3 (through Nolte country) and will need attention, and the street furniture in the Dublin final will be hazardous.  I won't be going to Belfast and might not even watch it in Dublin (well ok, but only if the weather is ok) as I think it is utterly ridiculous dragging a Giro this far only to have a rest day after three days... plain daft.

I think there might be a surprise this year in the GC, I just don't know who yet
HuwB

Seeing they'll be on the home isle, it would be nice if one of our Irish "majority" could dish up our anti pasti stages thread, this year. Cool
HuwB

The usual Giro road book of 230 pages in pdf form:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditali...wnload/Garibaldi%202014%20LOW.pdf

All the technical info.
gerry12ie

Thanks for all the links Huw, one could be forgiven that thinking the Giro is your favourite race... Wink

I'll put up some stages later, but as a caffe in the bar in the square before the antipasti, here's the weather...

Belfast



Dublin




Breezy
HuwB

Thanks for the AP thread, Ger.

Iglinsky & Lutsenko both out for Astana. No passports/Visas.
Welcome to the UK. Smile
Fontfroide

And while the lads are riding the Giro, Contador, Froome and Nibali will all be hanging out at this hotel, sometimes at the same time.  Nothing to do there, no internet connection, I am told.  Not a lot of hotels that high either.

http://www.parador.es/fr/gastronomia-de-las-canadas-del-teide
HuwB

I've seen that hotel a few times, FF. Know exactly where it is.
Lovely lunar landscape.

I don't think the Giro will return to the UK any time soon.
Godoy and Rodriguez also a visa issue for Androni.
Trusov is confirmed unable to travel, for Tinkoff.
McCarthy or Rogers, if you prefer, replaces him.
gerry12ie

Bleeding farce with the passports!  Godoy and Jackson Rodriguez have similar problems for Androni - http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=67980&tp=n

Stupid
Bartali

What a crock ... its an embarrassment! Sad
Biosphere

We must be vigilant in the war on terror, asylum seekers and not being outflanked by Nigel Farage!

Thanks for the link to the annual big book of biscuits Huw. I had thought when I couldn't find it last week for my Dad it might not be available this time around.

Interesting diversion that the biscuit name originates from another visit to UK territories 160 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garibaldi_biscuit#History
Fontfroide

I agree with Bio.  You can never tell what a cyclist from a foreign country could get up to while riding around Ireland or Northern Ireland.  They might try to get a job.  They might sign up for the dole.  It could be anything.

Not only stupid and embarrassing, it is cruel.  Imagine if they had pulled off that kind of stuff during the Olympics.  Hard to fathom the bureaucrat who didn't simply tick the box when presented with forms or email requests.  Should be found and sacked.
Fontfroide

Speaking of which, I had Kennaugh on one of my teams and almost missed him being withdrawn.  Does anyone know when and where I might find the definitive list, so I can find nine riders for my excellent and winning teams I have carefully chosen.
Boogerd_Fan

Team Colombia got their visas sorted - i can see them doing some damage on this route if there is no snow.

While making FP in other thread.. came to realise the white jersey is almost irrelevant here - as a number of the fight for pink favourites are under 25.

With the ramp finishes in wk 1... got to expect JRod to be in pink entering appenines,, but for some reason i fancy greenedge for the ttt. /kittel to sweep up everything in between while his team ids still fresh.
HuwB

Fontfroide wrote:
Speaking of which, I had Kennaugh on one of my teams and almost missed him being withdrawn.  Does anyone know when and where I might find the definitive list, so I can find nine riders for my excellent and winning teams I have carefully chosen.


Definitive, in so far that it is constantly being updated:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Giro_d_Italia_2014-Startlist
gerry12ie

Nice point made by Millar in his CN blog...
Quote:

Remembering Fignon

Before this year's race starts, I'd like to spare a moment of reflection for the winner of the Giro d'Italia 25 years ago and the last Frenchman to win it: Laurent Fignon.

Everyone seems to remember his being beaten by Greg LeMond at that year's Tour de France but Fignon won both Milan-San Remo and the Giro d'Italia in 1989. A great rider, who is sadly missed.


25 years - wow.  Laurent really did deserve a double.
Fontfroide

Even though I liked LeMond and thought he deserved a lot of credit for the way he rode, how he rode and being American and learning French and all, I wanted Laurent to have three Tours and Lemond two.  Laurent as a guy with character, besides being able to ride a bike.  A doper for sure, but I still liked him.  At that point in my history I was not ever bothered with anything to do with doping and cycling.  It just never came up, not like now.  Much more pleasant to be a fan then.  Same feelings about being a cyclist though, then and now.  A little less respect and comfort with the pro lads now.  As a commentator he was priceless.  Nearly said what should be said to most blah blah commentators, nearly.
HuwB

The Irish customs trump the UK, with this:

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=71484

Gianpaolo Caruso stopped for having...................................a coffee machine. Cool
gerry12ie

He should have used the expresso check-in

Coat on...
HuwB

Podium Cafe has a fascinating piece about the story on the hardest of them all: the 1914 Giro:
http://www.podiumcafe.com/book-co...014/5/6/5686434/Giro-dItalia-1914
gerry12ie

Thx Huw, a great read.

Insane, insane, insane...

Quote:
Through the Wednesday the survivors rested. And prepared themselves for the longest ever stage in the Giro's history: 430 kilometres, a record that has never been bettered at the corsa rosa. Once again they were set on their way at midnight. And barely 15 kilometres into the stage came one of the greatest acts of madness in the history of the Giro, the suicide attack to beat all suicide attacks. The riders had been stopped at a level crossing but, for Bianchi's Lauro Bordin, there was to be no stopping. He slipped across the train tracks in the dark without being seen and pressed on for Rome alone.

When the peloton resumed riding, no one noticed the absence of Bordin, or those who did made no mention of it. It was only when they reached the control at Fucecchio, 15 kilometres later, that they learned about Bordin's bid for glory. With 400 kilometres of road still to ride the peloton decided to let him be. Passing through Florence at two in the morning Bordin's lead was up to 25 minutes. Dawn came around San Quirico, still 194 kilometres from the capital, the 23-year-old Bordin still out there on his own. Around about Narni, after enduring 350 kilometres and 13 hours of the loneliness of the long distance rider and with 65 kilometres still to be raced, Bordin's escape was ended. Four riders working together powered past him. They were joined by another four and the sixth Giro saw its first bunch sprint, eight riders barrelling for the line in Rome and Costante Girardengo taking the glory, his second stage victory in his Giro career.


430 kilometres and a bunch sprint drunken
Fontfroide

Looking forward to an article or two on the Giro today, in l'Equipe.  However I forgot that this is a FRENCH paper.  Not a mention of anything whatever to do with the Giro, not even in the short article which filled up the one quarter page devoted to cycling.  The only longish article was about Demare winning the sprint.  I do sometimes find the nationalist bias of most coverage a bit appalling, and then turn to the internet before I get seriously annoyed.
Boogerd_Fan

Fontfroide wrote:
Looking forward to an article or two on the Giro today, in l'Equipe.  However I forgot that this is a FRENCH paper.  Not a mention of anything whatever to do with the Giro, not even in the short article which filled up the one quarter page devoted to cycling.  The only longish article was about Demare winning the sprint.  I do sometimes find the nationalist bias of most coverage a bit appalling, and then turn to the internet before I get seriously annoyed.


you'd think they would be hyping up Pinot as a top10 candidate/dark horse for podium.
Fontfroide

No doubt they will mention him tomorrow in a big spread, but one day before the first day, you would think they would find something to have an article about.  Must be loads of possible themes, including Pierre Roland and Pinot for sure, maybe something about AG2R and Pozzovivo, maybe a bit on French sprinters like Bouhanni.  

But no, nothing.  I can see I am going to be depending on you all as much as the paper.
HuwB

Watching the team presentation at the moment.
Not bad at all, compared to the usual cringe worthy stuff.
Biosphere

Some better passport news

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/s...ezeulas-visa-odyssey-is-at-an-end

Must go pick some fantasy teams.
kathy

A reminder that the race starts tomorrow, and all FPS for GC etc and stage 1 must be in by 17.50CET.

I think you will have to complete your teams for Noels Fantasy Game by early tomorrow morning.
Slapshot 3

Soooo pink time, I'm excited cos I can watch as much of the race as poss this year... Quintana for the win I reckon, do't think any of the rest will get close. Be interested to see how cuddles goes too mind
JohnD

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Looking forward to an article or two on the Giro today, in l'Equipe.  However I forgot that this is a FRENCH paper.  Not a mention of anything whatever to do with the Giro, not even in the short article which filled up the one quarter page devoted to cycling.  The only longish article was about Demare winning the sprint.  I do sometimes find the nationalist bias of most coverage a bit appalling, and then turn to the internet before I get seriously annoyed.


you'd think they would be hyping up Pinot as a top10 candidate/dark horse for podium.


They probably would only for Bernard to say Non!  This rider is weak!  He must attack!

Ben Swift profiles the stages on the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27281510
HuwB

Not new to any on us, but "hero" Bartali gets the BBC treatment:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27333310

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