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Giro 2017: I Secondi Piatti:-Stages 11-15:-May 17th-21st

STAGE 11: Ponte a Ema – Bagno di Romagna 161 km

START TIME: 12.20 CEST


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This queen stage across the Apennines takes in 4 consecutive categorised climbs, with not even a single flat stretch in between: Passo della Consuma, Passo della Calla, Passo del Carnaio and Monte Fumaiolo. After clearing Passo del Carnaio, the route takes a first pass on the finish line in Bagno di Romagna (for the first time stage town at the Giro). Then comes a long ring (approx. 52 km) that takes the riders to clear the Monte Fumaiolo categorised summit. A long drop then leads all the way to the finish. The roadway is narrow on average, and the road surface is worn out at points. Starting from 3,500 m from the finish, the last kilometres either descend, or are a false flat up. The route drops down quickly on wide roads, with several curves and hairpins, and briefly touches the centre of San Piero in Bagno. The final kilometres are dotted with roundabouts. The last bend is 5,900 m from the finish line, followed by a long home straight, just bending slightly, on 6-m wide and perfectly level asphalt road.


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STAGE 12: Forlì – Reggio Emilia 229 km

START TIME: 11.35 CEST


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The stage starts from Forlì, town stage for the nineteenth time, and is mostly flat, although it features two uncomplicated climbs in the first part (Colla di Casaglia and Valico Appenninico, both awarding KOM points). After the feed zone at Lago di Bilancino, the route takes the A1 motorway (and passes through a series of well-lit tunnels, both up- and downwards). After leaving the motorway and clearing the intermediate sprint in Sasso Marconi, the route flattens out on wide and straight roads with series of roundabouts, and cuts across a number of densely inhabited areas (especially Modena). The final kilometres to Reggio Emilia (for six times starting town at the Giro and 5 times arrival) are on wide and well-surfaced roads, with roundabouts, traffic dividers, pedestrian islands and speed being the main obstacles. The home straight is 350-m long, on 7-m wide asphalt road.


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STAGE 13: Reggio Emilia – Tortona 167 km

START TIME: 13.20 CEST


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The route is completely flat, and passes through the entire Po Valley. The stage finale, past Casteggio, follows the traditional Milan-Sanremo route. After leaving Reggio Emilia, the route first heads for Cavriago, and then (past Montecchio Emilia) goes back onto the ss. 9 “Via Emilia” leading to Piacenza following a straight course. Past Piacenza, the route takes the former Statale Padana Inferiore all the way to the finish, passing through several cities that have been featured in many Giro stages, and in the Milan-Sanremo finale. Arrival in Tortona, as the Giro did in 1989. The final kilometres are essentially straight, with just a few roundabouts along the route. There is one last bend (on a roundabout) approx. 500 m before the finish. The home straight is 450 m long, on 7.5-m wide asphalt road.


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STAGE 14: Castellania – Oropa 131 km

START TIME: 13.40 CEST

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This stage is very short and clearly divided into two parts: the route is fast-running and perfectly flat for 120 km, across the Po Valley; then comes an 11-km climb, with gradients over 7% and peaks topping out at 13% a few kilometres before the finish. Oropa will be this year's Montagna Pantani. After leaving Castellania (unprecedented stage town at the Giro), the route covers an 8 km transfer towards the actual start, then cuts across Vercelli and the surrounding plain. The final 11-km stretch, climbing all the way to the sanctuary (five times arrival and KOM), begins just past Biella. The final climb is 11-km long. The gradient is low in the first part, up to Favaro. The climb reaches its steepest gradient (around 13%) across the porphyry-paved center of Favaro, and then continues with several bends and a gradient around 9%, up to the 130-m long home stretch, on 6.5-m wide, porphyry-paved road.


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STAGE 15: Valdengo – Bergamo 199 km

START TIME: 12.10 CEST

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The stage starts in Valdengo as it did in 2014. The route covers 150 km on perfectly flat roads with the typical obstacles of all urban areas (i.e. roundabouts, traffic dividers, etc). Past Zogno, the route takes in two categorised climbs: Miragolo San Salvatore (unprecedented KOM) and Selvino, (here the last KOM was Tony Rominger in 1995). After Selvino, there is a long descent with a few hairpins in-between, then, a further 9 km lead to the upper city, and all the way to the finish line. Over the final kilometres, the route runs across the upper city (Bergamo Alta), climbing up to reach Porta Garibaldi and then Largo Aperto (covering 200 metres on pebble paving). In the first sector, gradients never fall below 10% (with a maximum of 12%). With 1,800 m to the finish, a sharp bend and a sector on narrowed roadway lead through Porta Sant’Agostino. The road takes a wide bend to the left after the flamme rouge, leading to the finish line. The home stretch (800 m long, on 7.5-m wide asphalt road) runs initially downwards and levels out afterwards.


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HuwB

Stage underway.

"Movistar is leading the group with a high pace"......
HuwB

Carnage.
A dozen or so riders off the front.
The peloton no more than 40-50 riders.
mazda

De Plus and Anton now on their own.
Peloton @50" down to 40 riders.

Not showing the intermediate group at the moment.
mazda

Lots of second level names in the breakaway.
Movistar has Amador and two others.
Canondale has Rolland and two others.
Landa, Ten Dam, Kangert, DuPont, Herrmans
etc.
HuwB

Visconti, Dupont, Montaguti, Cataldo, Kangert, Hermans, Carthy, Villella, Rovny, Marczinsky, Monfort, Amador, Herrada, Rojas, Rolland, Plaza, Fraile, Keizer, Landa, Deignan, Rui Costa, Petilli are the lead group chasing the front two.

GC action is pretty much a cert.
mazda

Fraile and Landa away on their own.
HuwB

mazda wrote:
Fraile and Landa away on their own.


4 and a half minutes to the good.
FF will love seeing this, given his change of fp. Laughing
HuwB

Movi arguing. Dolphin down. Trek (L Didier?) over the barrier. It's all happening.
mazda

HuwB wrote:
Movi arguing. Dolphin down. Trek (L Didier?) over the barrier. It's all happening.

Which Movistar riders - the ones in the peloton ?
HuwB

Trek and FDJ now riding to protect their leaders from Quintana's domestique. Embarassed
HuwB

Rolland and Fraile off the front.

Thomas and Kruijswijk off the back.
mazda

Costa makes it a trio, but still a large number of the original breakway are not far behind.
mazda

Kangert makes it 4 with 1km to go.
mazda

Fraile, good one.
HuwB

Fun finish, decent stage.
Fraile is going to do another lap apparently. Razz

Thomas gives back most of what he gained yesterday.
Bartali

Enjoyed that!
mazda

Kangert gains 1'37" and is up to 8th.
Amador gains 1'34" and is up to 6th.
Slapshot 3

For what I saw, that was a cracking stage! Well done Omar Fraile
Fontfroide

HuwB wrote:
mazda wrote:
Fraile and Landa away on their own.


4 and a half minutes to the good.
FF will love seeing this, given his change of fp. Laughing


Yep, was quite happy seeing him away.  But I was right to dump hi, he just couldn't climb the last climb.  I guess he just has to wait for healing to happen.

And then I thought of the two Italians in the break that I named, although not the Conti choice I made.  But for me, that is the extra bit picks add, and fantasy teams add.  Doesn't matter if they lose, as I blame the trainer.

Just as a little to the attacks and the tragic failures.  My Velogames team has Fraile, so one way or another one can have the extra feelings.

I thought it was not such a bad stage really.  Scenery included.  But ti does seem as if some of the lads are waiting.
gerry12ie

Well that has restored my faith  Very Happy

A classic Giro stage that left me feeling that 90 minutes highlights was almost too short - unlike last week when they were about 80 minutes too long.  Fraile well deserved it but I do like the look of De Plus for the future.  Nibali threw a little shape, and so did Thibaut, and there was even a bit of a GC shuffle in the bottom half of the top ten.

Great stuff all round in God's own garden.  It's even put me in mind for a sip of Grappa before bed time...
Biosphere

I too enjoyed yesterday's stage once I caught up.

gerry12ie wrote:
If any final proof was needed that Campenaerts wasn't fully focused on rewarding FF's faith in him yesterday...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/c...ith-tt-stunt-giro-ditalia-shorts/


And now they've gone and fined him CHF 100 for bringing the image of cycling into disrepute.

So basically it's a little human interest story that does no harm to anybody and most will see in a positive and warm light, and helps cycling reach out a little bit from being confined to the specialist spots pages. Whereas they think fining him for it is somehow the right thing to do and won't be seen negatively by most.

Maybe his mistake was not to ride on a footpath while he was doing it?
HuwB

Gaviria from Jakub Mareczko and Sam Bennett.

That's about it really.


Edit: Geraint Thomas lost a further 31 seconds on the run in today.
Milan looking further and further away.
ventoux

HuwB wrote:
Geraint Thomas lost a further 31 seconds on the run in today.
Milan looking further and further away.


losing time so he'll be "free" for a stage win?
Bartali

I think Thomas should abandon.  He's a brave man and probably proud too, but if he's losing time on a flat run-in then its time to cash out and recover properly.  Chapeau for a gutsy try, but it ain't worth it.
Fontfroide

It is my genuine hope, for no other reason that dramatic satisfaction, that Thomas and Landa and Yates, collaborating with one other fine rider will "do something" later.  But they all seem to have been seriously damaged by that crash and have ben losing crazy amounts of time ... maybe they should quit.

But they won't.  And my dream will come true.
Biosphere

Bartali wrote:
I think Thomas should abandon.  He's a brave man and probably proud too, but if he's losing time on a flat run-in then its time to cash out and recover properly.  Chapeau for a gutsy try, but it ain't worth it.


Depends why he lost time and if there's a strategy though?
Bartali

If he was playing for stages I think he would have lost a lot more than 30 odd seconds. I think he's busted up and would be better advised in rebuilding for Spain.
ventoux

Bartali wrote:
If he was playing for stages I think he would have lost a lot more than 30 odd seconds. I think he's busted up and would be better advised in rebuilding for Spain.


looks like he's taken your advice.....
HuwB

Yes.
Thomas has abandoned, due to his knee injury.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/thomas-abandons-the-giro-ditalia/
HuwB

From the climb yesterday, to the hills around Bergamo. 500 pan flat kms with Oropa at between.
So, basically the RCS threw in a Tour of Qatar into the middle of their 100th Giro.
HuwB

Gaviria came like a rocket from miles back for win number four.
Meanwhile Ewan is riding the dodgems again.

Sam Bennett string together some tidy results without actually winning.
But no one is, against Gaviria, .
Bartali

I'm not a follower of sprints, but that was some sprint today. Chapeau!!
Fontfroide

Just out of curiosity, anyone out there to see how they climb the last hill.
Biosphere

It's the birthday party of the youngest one today so I'm not able to watch live. Just flicked on TV to see where they were. Will watch without knowing result in a bit, but don't expect much more than a sprint for bonus seconds.
Fontfroide

Biosphere wrote:
It's the birthday party of the youngest one today so I'm not able to watch live. Just flicked on TV to see where they were. Will watch without knowing result in a bit, but don't expect much more than a sprint for bonus seconds.


You are just saying that because you can't watch.  I eternally hope for action that surprises me.  And having said that, I shall continue to hope for world shaking movements, even if you might be right.  It is NOT an impossible climb and there is only one of them.
ventoux

Fontfroide wrote:
Just out of curiosity, anyone out there to see how they climb the last hill.


just packed the lawnmower & strimmer away.... I'll watch the last climb.....
ventoux

... and I'll be cheering for Nolte's pick, as well as my own!
Nolte

Impressive ride by dumoulin to put more time into quintana. Bigger gaps than expected
gerry12ie

Major Tom ground them down and took control (sorry Wink )

Great controlled ride and took 22 seconds from Quintana, and more from Nibali and Pinot.  Nibali looks out of sorts but Pinot recovered well.  

Dumoulin looks super strong, and looked really confident when interviewed beforehand.  I never felt this stage would worry him, but I didn't expect him to win it so convincingly.  I presume the Clinic is open for business? Very Happy
HuwB

Dumoulin hammers a nail into each of the mountain goat's coffins.
Quintana needs to put on a dozen kilos, obviously. Laughing

See what happens when we go over the 2000 metres mark, but I think the race needs somebody else beside the Colombian to make a difference.
Fontfroide

Good racing up that hill.  A few surprises, which we always like.

Dumoulin now adds himself to the guys who can take jersey, win a TT and win a mountain stage.  Quintana is going to have to do a feat to beat him.  But the others were not totally whipped, so we can still hope for more changes and surprises.  Lovely last bit.
HuwB

I think I'll fp him for Tuesday, to give the rest a fighting chance.
I made Bauke Mollema crack, today.Embarassed

I see that the Clinic are passing the usual judgement.
Slapshot 3

the last 15ks yesterday were thoroughly enjoyable (while watching the last 5 minutes of the Hockey semi between Canada and Russia)  Dumoulin did that just right, week three will be different, Tuesday especially but he's looking good right now.
What the score with Nibs?? He doesn't seem on the ball at all this year, even my last week hedge bet of a major turn of form is looking doubtful....as Huw says someone of that calibre beside Quintana needs to be there but I don;t see either Nibali or Pinot reaching that level. On balance it's been a good Giro so far
Nolte

They should just let this break go. Wink
Fontfroide

I was thinking this morning that Rolland would be trying again.  Funny that.
Such a really excellent mediocre rider.
gerry12ie

What a Giro for Quick Step, and a well-deserved win for Jungels.  Nice six second bonus for Quintana too, which was a surprise as I thought Dumoulin might have been in for a shout for the stage himself but he seemed to shut down a bit with 200m to go and took his eye off the ball.  

Fast stage, so much for letting the break go before the rest day  Laughing
Bartali

Nibali floats to the back to check whose there then almost gets dropped and hast to fight tooth and nail to get back on ..
Nolte

gerry12ie wrote:
What a Giro for Quick Step, and a well-deserved win for Jungels.  Nice six second bonus for Quintana too, which was a surprise as I thought Dumoulin might have been in for a shout for the stage himself but he seemed to shut down a bit with 200m to go and took his eye off the ball.  

Fast stage, so much for letting the break go before the rest day  Laughing


I wonder if dumoulin had some sort of mechanical problem in the final, gearing or slow puncture?

It did seem like something that would have suited him.
HuwB

Just watched the recording.
An absolutely bonkers stage.
Quite the spectacular last 50kms, which Eurosport did their best to spoil.
I had a feeling that someone like Jungels could and should go after the stage win.
Not sure What Nibali was about. A fair bit of wasted effort chasing a win, for someone expected to aiming for the podium.

Kangert with a broken elbow after that airborn crash.
Obviously, he has had to abandon.
Severo

I'm enjoying this Giro.

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