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HuwB

Giro 2012: The Antipasti Stages-May 9th-12th.

So, finally we get the Giro into Italy......
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Stage 7
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Bartali

Thx Huw.

Stage 7 looks made for JRod ... unless the diesels push hard and early ....
Boogerd_Fan

Crikey stage 5 might even make some of the riders fall asleep too!!

I know the Romans were very good at building straight roads, but thats 150km straight line with almost ruler precision!

looking forwards to the weekend.. and gl to Phinney - i assume he'll be quite sore during tomorrow's travelling day. At least he can get full team support in the TTT.
Biosphere

The antipasti is now being served. Start times today:

Ag2r - La Mondiale 15:25
Euskaltel - Euskadi 15:28
Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela 15:31
Lampre - ISD 15:34
Lotto Belisol Team 15:37
Colnago - CSF Inox 15:40
FDJ - BigMat 15:43
Farnese Vini-Selle Italia 15:46
Katusha Team 15:49
Movistar Team 15:52
Team Netapp 15:55
Rabobank Cycling Team 15:58
Team Saxo Bank 16:01
Liquigas - Cannondale 16:04
Astana Pro Team 16:07
Omega Pharma - Quickstep 16:10
Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 16:13
Sky Procycling 16:16
Radioshack - Nissan 16:19
Orica - Greenedge 16:22
Garmin - Barracuda 16:25
BMC Racing Team 16:28
Biosphere

Katusha performing well out of the earlier teams.

Intermediate time check, 21.8km

1.Katusha        25:19
2.Lampre-ISD          0:20
3.Farnese Vini-Selle Italia  0:31
4.Lotto Belisol         0:35
5.Colnago-CSF Inos     0:38
6.Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela 0:48
7.FDJ-Big Mat         0:52
8.AG2R-La Mondiale       1:11
9.Euskaltel-Euskadi      1:36

Pozzovivo gets towed around the course.
kathy

Katusha went quite well - and Lampre even better!

Ktusha now finished ahead of Lampre-Got that the wrong way round
Severo

Garmin through the first check fastest - and you'd expect them to win today. If they do, they could take the pink jersey - but for who? Rasmussen is their top-placed rider.... but struggling.

Bobridge also struggling for GreenEdge.
HuwB

Purito the major winner from today. Gadret/Dupont/Nieve and Rujano big, big losers.
The rest all huddled together.
Phinney off the road...............yet again.
Battled well, though.
Biosphere

Severo wrote:
Garmin through the first check fastest - but for who? Rasmussen is their top-placed rider.... but struggling.


Navardauskas it would seem.

Katusha will be laughing. Very good result today. Don't know if I'm getting mixed up but I think I remember Rodriguez loosing a packet in Turin last year.
Biosphere

[quote="Biosphere:196834"]
Severo wrote:

Katusha will be laughing. Very good result today. Don't know if I'm getting mixed up but I think I remember Rodriguez loosing a packet in Turin last year.


Looked it up. Lost 35 to 40 seconds on the original podium trio. Effectively a minute better this year.
Nolte

good performance by katusha today. must say the top 5 was very much unexpected teams to be there although unfortunately OPQS could not find an additional few seconds Sad oh well

the top 12 all finished reasonably close together.

i guess Nieve should really turn his attentions to the mountains jersey i think Very Happy
Severo

What I don't really understand is why this was after the rest day? Couldn't they have done the transfer Monday evening/night, then have this on Tuesday as it's quite a late start?
gerry12ie

Severo wrote:
What I don't really understand is why this was after the rest day? Couldn't they have done the transfer Monday evening/night, then have this on Tuesday as it's quite a late start?


It was to give Stephen Roche time to check that all their zips were working Wink
Boogerd_Fan

Interesting for J-Rod.. but i'm looking at Ballan, Visconti and Cataldo quite reasonably placed in under 1min on GC... some names to ruffle some feathers on the weekend's first hilly stage?

Poor showing from Rabobank surprisingly - considering they have a few of their TT specialists in their Giro lineup.

Pozzovivo @ 1m from Kreuziger at this stage. It's a good place for RK to be in, but if a guy like Pozzovivo goes early on Stelvio or Giau.. i think the time gaps will be significantly more.
kathy

Nolte wrote:


i guess Nieve should really turn his attentions to the mountains jersey i think Very Happy


ES Spain had an interview with Alvaro (brother of Igor) Gonzalez de Galdeano after the stage.  He sounded rather distraught about EE's performance, but apparently Txurruka had had a problem, a puncture, and then a fall, or it might have been the same incident.  But I got the impression this happened early in the stage, and I thought they lost most of the time in the second half!
Biosphere

Severo wrote:
What I don't really understand is why this was after the rest day? Couldn't they have done the transfer Monday evening/night, then have this on Tuesday as it's quite a late start?


Ryanair flight schedules at awkward times? Wink

I suppose those with the battered bodies were grateful of the rest and I guess it comes down to Verona having paid for a rest day.

Poor Phinney - impressive off roading given he was on a TT bike. At least he didn't have to contend with a farmer with a shotgun telling him to get off his land. Himself and la Famiglia have come across well on TV (they speak Italian well) and I liked his mum showing how she was jumping up and down when he won the opener. He seemed to be enjoying himself too and respected his 'duties'/ the race etc. by hobbling up on to the podium on Monday.
HuwB

Stage 5 is on.
If you look very closely, you can see the paint on the road's white line drying..............
One for the...............erm..................connoisseur.
kathy

One point of interest - Kaisen going for the 6000€ escape prize!  Or is it Swiss Francs? Laughing
kathy

And they've just crossed the Rubicon - nogoing back now Wink
Severo

On PL Eurosport they're discussing the weather and Agnieszka Radwańska (top Polish tennis player).

Ooh a bridge. It's almost like a hill.
Biosphere

Some people complained that Rubicon was like watching paint dry, but it was actually very good.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon_(TV_series)[/url]
Boogerd_Fan

Phinney down again..
kathy

Phinney's bike-handling skills don't seem to be the best.

Lovely countryside now!
kathy

Nice clean sprint today!
SlowRower

Long sprint for Cav today. He must have gone from almost 200m out! Goss second again.

The Sky Train looks good. Freddie Laker would be impressed. Grainy YouTube footage not clear enough to see who's doing the final lead out. Thomas would be somewhere close to the sharp end, I assume, to keep his leg speed for the TP.
HuwB

The Rubicon was pretty good. So complex, that naturally it got canned in the US after series one.

Nice little 30km stagette.
Phinney I have seen fall off in 5 of his last 6 starts. (Includes Trentino)
Must be some kind of record.

Cav up at the front. Farrar and Hushovd very poor.
FDJ looked good, right up until the race started.
Sky train early, but G's engine is pulling to Olympic standards.

Given today's profile, I can't see a buncho sprinto, tomorrow.
Contenders on high alert.

Perhaps we could start a "At what km will Phinney fall off," sweep?
HuwB

Tomorrow's stage appears quite tasty.
Interesting stuff in the Giro roadbook:

Quote:
First semi-mountain stage. The only level road segments are to be seen upon finish.
The whole stage features a continuous uphill and downhill route in the middle of the Macerata’s and Fermano’s Apennines valleys, with short and sharp ascents followed by technical descents. The route presents 4 GPM (Cingoli -3a 746 m – km 95.4; Passo della Cappella 2ª m 772 – km 118; Montelupone 3ª m 251 – km 154.7; Montegranaro 3ª m 241 – km 176.5) one of which featuring 4 kilometers of dirt road (Passo della Cappella) with a gradient around 9% and peaks of 15%. The last kilometers run along the Porto Sant’Elpidio hinterland.
After the crossing of Trodica di Morrovalle the race faces the Montegranaro wall featuring an up to 18% gradient on a narrowed roadway. Broad and fast descent up to Casette d’Ete before climbing the Santa Lucia ascent (gradient up to 15%) and re-enter the Adriatica State Road by a technical descent. One more easy to climb ascent up to Corva to re-enter a second time the State Road at 6 km. At 1,800 meters from the finish two more curves interrupted by an underpass lead to the 1,500 meters long and 7.5 meters wide asphalted home stretch.


Certainly whetted my appetite!
Biosphere

gerry12ie wrote:
It was to give Stephen Roche time to check that all their zips were working Wink


Or to give him time to write his Giro blog.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/...ugely-impressed-by-taylor-phinney

The digested read:

Globalisation is good and if you disagree you're a wrong purist.
Starting in Denmark is a good way to honour the likes of Thor Hushovd. And those that won the Tour on drugs (that will be everyone Wink). And also people from other lands up there where they keep their zip's up because it's cold.
I won the Tour in 1987.
I didn't see the Ferrari incident but I believe I'm in a position to judge that he should be sent home.
HuwB

Looks like it's full on, today.
Big break, big chase.
Come the first real climb and Hushovd abandons, Farrar and Guardini already dropped, 125kms from the finish!
kathy

Very glad I didn't pick Thor today then!
berck

HuwB wrote:

Come the first real climb and Hushovd abandons, ...


NOooooooooooooooooooooooo!
kathy

Pablo  Lastras out.  suspected collar-bone and/or ribs.
HuwB

kathy wrote:
Pablo  Lastras out.  suspected collar-bone and/or ribs.

Involved with Jack Bauer, so no wonder he's all busted up! Laughing
Seriously, Paolo Savoldelli said it was a spectacularly bad crash.

Beautiful day. Central Italy looks absolutely fabulous in HD.
Biosphere

Farrar has allegedly crashed out?
berck

Yeah, I just saw that too.
Beasley

Even though BMC are laying down a lot of rubber for Ballan (I presume?) they haven't made any headway over the past 15km.

Malori in pink if things stay as they are. Unexpected bonus for Lampre.

Navardauskas getting a sly push. Completely unacceptable. We need Commissar Bartali on the ground to protect the integrity of the rules against such institutionalised slacking! Laughing
Biosphere

HuwB wrote:
Beautiful day. Central Italy looks absolutely fabulous in HD.


Indeed. An African weather system has invaded Southern Europe.



Suggestions that Arctic will push back on Sunday potentially leading to very heavy rain in Northern and Central Italy when the two air masses meet.
kathy

Spanish Es men doing mad calculations.  Rubiano looks favourite, or perhaps Golas, Malori or Hesjedal Laughing
Beasley

Peloton has taking the gap down a bit under three minutes with just over 2km to go.  

With bonuses factored in, Garmin probably have to take the best part of a 70s of out of Rubiano to retain pink, just with a different rider!
Beasley

Malori in pink courtesy of the 12s time bonus?
kathy

And Malori ends up in pink after all that!
HuwB

kathy wrote:
And Malori ends up in pink after all that!


After all that, the stage failed to ignite and the interest came from the breakaway alone.
I fell asleep after the final climb.
Too hard parcour, or teams too weak?
Terrible waste of a few good ramps.
Maybe the race's third week casts just too big a shadow.
Beasley

GC 'contenders' going into the first mountain stage:

Hesjedal                          
J-Rodriguez        +19
Pinotti                +26
Kreuziger           +29
Basso                +36
Uran                  +47
Schleck              +58
Cunego              +1-08
Scarponi             +1-11
Pozzovivo           +1-37
Rujano               +2-22
Gadret               +2-32
Nieve                 +3-12

Going by the profile, it should be J-Rod in Pink by tomorrow evening
Bartali

Beasley wrote:
Navardauskas getting a sly push. Completely unacceptable. We need Commissar Bartali on the ground to protect the integrity of the rules against such institutionalised slacking! Laughing


I didn't see it ... but I'll happily doc him a minute or so on your say so!
gerry12ie

Bartali wrote:
Beasley wrote:
Navardauskas getting a sly push. Completely unacceptable. We need Commissar Bartali on the ground to protect the integrity of the rules against such institutionalised slacking! Laughing


I didn't see it ... but I'll happily doc him a minute or so on your say so!


Well Roche approves of Ferrari being chucked out even though he admits to not seeing the crash, so I would say you are definitely following UCI protocol Bartali Wink
Beasley

DB on the TTT:

Quote:
Brailsford immersed in Giro d'Italia conundrums

The downside has been the team time trial, where "we would have liked to have done better, but we were very conscious we wanted both our Columbians to finish in the front group."

"We didn’t want to leave them behind, and if there had been a choice of finishing with them, or being up on the platform [winner’s podium], I’d have taken the former rather than the latter."


Henao came with a good TTT record and Uran has a respectable track pedigree, so I'm surprised they were considered much of a hindrance.

For what it's worth, I thought Sky's TTT was alright. Not fantastic, but 30s behind a stacking Garmin squad (& in the same ballpark as Radioshack, BMC, GreenEdge, Liquigas, etc) can't be that much worse than they anticipated.
HuwB

Break consists of:
Hollenstein +1.21
Rabottini +10.27
Beppu +20.43
Selvaggi +21.16
After 60kms, they have 8'-20".

Edit:
Very sedate pace, today.
Looks as if the Sky/Rabo/Phinney bus is already thinking about forming up.
Beasley

50km to go, about 20km of which are uphill

just under 6 minutes between the break and peloton

Lampre at the front; Cunego must feel good
Beasley

35km to go as the gap dips under 5 minutes

Garmin at the front, trying to get rid of Malori, no doubt.

Were I in the Garmin car, I'd be leaving the pace setting to Lampre and J-Rod's boys. With time bonuses, Hesjedal isn't the master of his own destiny.
Beasley

Well, the Garmin TTT did the business: 26km to go, 2.5 mins back to the peloton. The gap has been halved in under 10km.

Beppu and Selvaggi trying to shed their co-escapers, for some unfathomable reason
Beasley

Under 15k to go.

Rabottini leading on the road, Pirazzi in hot pursuit (+15s), Lampre dishing out the pain (+ 30s)

Malori off the back. Valiant effort, but not surprising.

13.5Km to go: Pirazzi makes the catch.
Beasley

2 becomes 3 as Herrada joins the front two.

Pirazzi limits himself by being seemingly unable to tap out a solid tempo. Too much garbage attacking.

Sella off the front of the peloton. Cunego straight on his wheel!
Beasley

Androni are being a nunsense. First Rujano gives it a dig, and then Ochoa undertakes a more sustained attack.

Katusha are gathering.

31s between Pirazzi/Herrada and the peloton. Pirazzi doing all the work, seemingly.
Beasley

Astana take over pace-setting duties from Androni.

4km to go, over 2km of which are downhill before rising again for the finish.

Lead under 20s. Now or never for the boys infront.
Beasley

Scarponi drops the hammer!
Beasley

Tiralongo nips around the final corner to take the win. Scarponi second. Schleck third - looks like he's here to race!

Opportunity lost for J-Rod. Good thing he has tomorrow and Tuesday to come!

Hesjedal take over the GC, I think.
HuwB

I enjoyed that stage more than I expected, even though I'm only just watching the finish.

Mmmm, Scarponi, very interesting.
Frank "I was on Contador's beach" Schleck?
Tiralongo doubles his win tally.
Mind you, 2 Giro stages ain't bad.

One or two contenders found a little wanting.
Maybe the third week form will arrive, come............the third week.

Hesjedal into Pink.
Beasley

Stage results:

TIRALONGO Paolo 0:00
SCARPONI Michele 0:00
SCHLECK Frank 0:03
RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin 0:03
HESJEDAL Ryder 0:05
POZZOVIVO Domenico 0:09
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel 0:09
BASSO Ivan 0:09
NIEVE ITURALDE Mikel 0:11
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 0:11

Henao, Gadret, Kreuziger, Cunago, Uran and CVV all +11
Rujano +22
Sella and Pinotti +25

Basso looked very comfortable, it must be said

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