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kathy

FP's for the World Champs, Sept 23rd-27th

Please post your FP's here for the men's TT and Road RAce, and the Women's TT and Road RAce (just for a laugh Laughing )

Also, so Nolte can KOD some more people, the U23 RR and TT. Laughing
billgull

Where are the start lists posted?

Thanks!
kathy

billgull wrote:
Where are the start lists posted?

Thanks!


This is all I've found so far

http://www.cyclingstartlists.com/2009/2009.htm
Nolte

what about the under 23's? that might be fun
Bartali

Cancellara for the ITT, Cunego for the RR
kathy

Nolte wrote:
what about the under 23's? that might be fun


OK, seeing as it's nearly the silly season, we'll do the U 23's RR and TT as well.
Nolte

excellent, that'll mean i'll get 0 points in 6 events rather then 4 Very Happy
Slapshot 3

First stab;

Womens TT - Emma Pooley
Womens Road Race - Nicole Cook
Mens TT - Fabian Cancellara (though I'd love Brad to spring a surprise)
Mens Road Race - Damiano Cunego
U23 TT - don't know
U23 RR - Don't know yet

Question: Do Protour/Continental riders under 23 qualify or do they have to go in the big boys races??
kathy

Slapshot, I think, but don't quote me on this, that Protour riders have to go in the senior race, but all others can go in U23, provided they qualify on age of course.  So I would assume Gesink can't go in the U23, but Ben Swift, for example, could.
Slapshot 3

kathy wrote:
Slapshot, I think, but don't quote me on this, that Protour riders have to go in the senior race, but all others can go in U23, provided they qualify on age of course.  So I would assume Gesink can't go in the U23, but Ben Swift, for example, could.


Thanks Kathy, been hunting for team lists but seems the that while the main teams are announced prior to the start the U23's are not.......
Fontfroide

Men's ITT  Cancellara
Women's RR  Nicole Cooke
Men's RR A. Schleck

No idea about the rest, must study.  Under 23, anyone have clues?
kathy

OK, START LIST for the men's U23 race and TT.

It doesn't help me a lot - never heard of most of them. Laughing

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN...amp;ObjTypeCode=FILE&type=FIL

You can find all the entry lists from this page

http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/U...t.asp?MenuId=MTI1NDk&LangId=1
kathy

Eureka!

Romain Sicard for the U- 23 road race.

Taylor Phinney for the U23 TT
maffy

u23tt - peter stetina
u23rr - martin reimer
wtt - pooley
wrr - cooke
mtt - wiggo
mrr - gilbert
Slapshot 3

Slapshot 3 wrote:
First stab;

Womens TT - Emma Pooley
Womens Road Race - Nicole Cook
Mens TT - Fabian Cancellara (though I'd love Brad to spring a surprise)
Mens Road Race - Damiano Cunego
U23 TT - don't know
U23 RR - Don't know yet

Question: Do Protour/Continental riders under 23 qualify or do they have to go in the big boys races??


U23 TT - Taylor Phinney
U23 RR - STILL Don't know yet
Spoo

Womens TT - Emma Pooley
Womens Road Race - Marianne Vos
Mens TT - Gustav Larrson
Mens Road Race - Valverde
U23 TT - Taylor Phinney
U23 RR - TBD
Fontfroide

U 23 ITT Taylor Phinney Although tempted by Le Bon
U 23 RR Jack Bobridge Although tempted by Sicard or Kennaugh

Women's ITT  Gotta go with Longo on account of she is my idol.  And it would be totally cool if she beat all the kids.  
Women's RR  Maybe change to Vos, as I have no idea about the form of Cooke, and Vos seems to be overwhelmingly the best.

Free tip for RR, is FERRIER-BRUNEAU Christel who has relations in the next village to my town.  She looks very fit.

I suppose it is not too odd that I have never heard of many of the non Anglo speakers, except the French.  I only read those two languages.
levi

RR WOMEN   N.COOKE
TT WOMEN    A.NEBEN
RR MEN         S.SANCHEZ
TT MEN         F.CANCELLARA
U23TT          T.PHINNEY
U23RR          M.OBRIEN
COULD I HAVE THESE PLEASE KATHY AND AGAIN WELL DONE FOR THE VUELTA.
cardinal guzman

Millar for the mens ITT.

Mens RR....

1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. little Sammy Sanchez.

No idea for the ladies but I'd like Pooley to win both. Similarly Kennyog for the lads.

(of course, that's assuming they're riding - I notice GB have 14 riders registered for the road race, does anyone know how many berths GB have qualified for?)
kathy

cardinal guzman wrote:
Millar for the mens ITT.

Mens RR....

1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. little Sammy Sanchez.

No idea for the ladies but I'd like Pooley to win both. Similarly Kennyog for the lads.

(of course, that's assuming they're riding - I notice GB have 14 riders registered for the road race, does anyone know how many berths GB have qualified for?)


Nine I think.  BTW, Brad has opted out of the RR to concentrate on the TT - story on CN today, I think.
billgull

F/Ps:

ITT:

U23 = Taylor Phinney

Women = Kristen Armstrong

Men = Fabian Cancellara
Me, a fan?

Men RR:  Kirchen
Men TT:   Cancellara (is there any doubt?)
Spoo

I'll add Kennaugh as my U23 RR Fp please Kathy
kathy

Women TT - Emma Pooley
Fontfroide

Although I am unable to explain this Taylor Phinney does NOT appear on the UCI start list for the TT.  

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN...=FILE&id=NTUwNTc&LangId=1

Could I please change my FP to Johan Le Bon  

Great name you gotta admit.

Guess we ought to check those start lists more closely to see if our guys and gals are actually riding.
Nolte

ok my picks

TT U23   Rasmus Quaade (Denmark)
Women's TT Bubnenkova (Russia)
Men's TT Zabriskie (US)
Slapshot 3

Stetina and Van Gerarden Lisyted as the US starters therefore Kathy, please change my U23 TT FP to Adriano Malori
mr shifter

Only one so far, The Elite Time Trial and the British Champion FP ... Bradley Wiggins,  please

Sorry but I'm going to poach a bit of space here.
Wiggins beat Micheal Hutchinson for the title a couple of weeks ago.
Well last Sunday Hutch was beaten again (this time a 25 mile TT) by a former Professional, 36 year old Irishman David McCann riding for the Phoenix CC, who won in a time of 45mins 54secs.
This is 3secs faster than Chris Boardmans Competition Record set in 1993.

Be Lucky .....thanks for the space as I havn't seen this anywhere here.
billgull

Kathy!

Please change my F/P for the U23 ITT:

from: Taylor Phinney

to: Adriano Malori

Many Thanks!
kathy

Where Have you got this information about Taylor Phinney.? According to the official UCI list, he's riding

If he isn't, I'll have Jonathon Castroviejo, for no other reason than that I've actually heard of him Laughing

Well, he's not on the list either, so I'll go with Jimmi Sorensen - sounds as if he comes from a good cycling family!
Slapshot 3

kathy wrote:
Where Have you got this information about Taylor Phinney.? According to the official UCI list, he's riding

If he isn't, I'll have Jonathon Castroviejo, for no other reason than that I've actually heard of him Laughing

Well, he's not on the list either, so I'll go with Jimmi Sorensen - sounds as if he comes from a good cycling family!


Kathy, If you lookat the start list in FF's last post he's not there
cardinal guzman

If we have 9 riders, please can i swap Wiggs to the ITT and have Cav for the RR? If he's not there, I'll go for Hagen Daaz, If he's not there, I'll go for the German National Champ - forget his name but he was V impressive in the TOB.
Superbagneres

cardinal guzman wrote:
If we have 9 riders, please can i swap Wiggs to the ITT and have Cav for the RR? If he's not there, I'll go for Hagen Daaz, If he's not there, I'll go for the German National Champ - forget his name but he was V impressive in the TOB.


Martin Reimer is the German, but I think he will actually be in the U23 race unless I have misunderstood.
cardinal guzman

good god, this fping is a minefield!

I'm stickin with the manxman for the juniors so I'll do without a third substitute in the RR.

Ta very muchly Spb and Kathy! Smile
Enchantress

Mens RR: Cunego
Mens TT: Cancellara

Ladies RR: Marianne Vos Smile
Ladies TT: Neben
Fontfroide

kathy wrote:
Where Have you got this information about Taylor Phinney.? According to the official UCI list, he's riding

If he isn't, I'll have Jonathon Castroviejo, for no other reason than that I've actually heard of him Laughing

Well, he's not on the list either, so I'll go with Jimmi Sorensen - sounds as if he comes from a good cycling family!


I have read now in several other places that the two for the USA are Tee Jay something and Peter Stetina, besides the PDF file that is the official list of starting order>  Still, at this moment the ITT is underway, so too late for any changes.
Drongo

Men's RR: Sanchez
Men's TT: Cancellara

Women's RR: Johansson
Women's TT:Armstrong

u/23 RR:Bobridge
kathy

Ok, here are the tables after today's events.  Please check your selections carefully, as it got very confusing Laughing

Well done to Billgull and Drongo for picking Kristin Armstrong (or Kirsty Anderson as Sean was trying to call her! Surprised )


Click to download file


Click to download file

Cancellara for me tomorrow.  I can't be inspired to look any further!
cardinal guzman

Sterling Job Kathy, getting this lot together!

I'll add Millar to the men's TT, and Swift to the U23 RR if possible please!
kathy

Millar wasn't in the TT, CG.  And isn't Swift doing the elite race?

Billgull and Drongo still leading.

Click to download file


Click to download file
cardinal guzman

Sorry Kathy,

I've KOD'd myself lol!

 I think a Canuck might win the women's RR, and only an idiot would bet against Fab Can to do the double (assuming he's going for it?), but I'll stick with what I've got and just add Martin Reimer to the junior RR - unless he's out or I've missed it!

9 GB riders? How times change. (Hope Southam or Wegelius aren't in there - cause some things don't change Evil or Very Mad )
Me, a fan?

Gotta go with the sentimental pick for the women's RR, Evelyn Stevens
billgull

F/Ps:

Road Races:

U23 = Peter Stetina

Women = Emma Johansson

Men = Damiano Cunego
kathy

Noemi Cantele for the women's road race.
Nolte

my kiss of death so far has worked wonders, 2 of my 3 competitors despite being on the uci lists didn't even show up. they realised what the point after i picked them. well quaade is only a yungun, he'll learn Very Happy

riders know better then to turn up with me picking them

U23 - Damiano Caruso

Women - Claudia Hausleur
Slapshot 3

Kathy, Can you change my FP's for tomorrow please

Womens RR - Marianne Vos
U23s - Peter Stetina
mr shifter

Under 23 men RR ...... Damiano Caruso

Womens RR ........ Marianne Vos

Mens RR .............Oscar Freire
Mrs John Murphy

Mens RR - Vino Very Happy
cardinal guzman

b.
Nolte

mens rr - ballan for the double
kathy

Should I congratulate myself? Laughing   I seem to be leading the table after my good day today.



Click to download file


Click to download file

Damiano Cunego for the men's RR.

Although Samu or Valverde might run him close with that tricky descent.
MAILLOT JAUNE

Fix!!!!!!!!  Wink  Wink  Wink
Well done for leading the table, you deserve it.
mr shifter

kathy wrote:
Nolte wrote:
what about the under 23's? that might be fun


OK, seeing as it's nearly the silly season, we'll do the U 23's RR and TT as well.

kathy wrote:
Eureka!

Romain Sicard for the U- 23 road race.


OK - some insider trading methinks.
What's going on kathy or have I missed something, as you seem to know this rider and we all know him now.

I watched the streaming for over an hour and was not impressed with his wandering of the front and looking around several times and when a rider or two caught him he seemed reluctant to work.
I thought another Evans in the making.

Then the last lap and I eat my words as he is fully committed to working with Kreder the Dutchman and as Kreder put the pressure on he realised that he himself had much more than Kreder.
He then just rode away up the climb with pure "Class" and was still motoring at the Finish.
On reflection my early assesment was in error because I didn't know he was in charge and wanted some worthwhile company to work with.

Brilliant and that will get the French going about him being the next whoever.

Be Lucky .... and Congratulations.
Hommedesbois

Would Dimitri Champion for tomorrow be too fearless? A French 1-2 and 'amateur' to boot?

OK ...Thor Hushovd please kathy (not that my choice is relevant but it's a bit like the Grand National innit?)
Fontfroide

I would like to change my pick for the RR.  Everyone says Schleck has no team and no chance.  I guess I think that must be so.  I can't really decide between the Italians and the Spanish.  I guess I think maybe the Spanish are stronger, and that given the last descent, the winner by a suicidal descent will be

S Sanchez, my man for the day.  

Although I will be annoyed if Cunego pips him at the end.
kathy

Mr Shifter, I first came across Romain Sicard about six months ago when it was announced that he would ride for Euskaltel next season.  He is a French Basque and currently rides for Orbea.  He recently won the Tour de l'Avenir, so was obviously in good form.  He was also won of the few riders I'd ever heard of in that race Laughing

This has been edited.  I was answering the wrong person Laughing  Embarassed
mr shifter

Fontfroide wrote:
 I guess I think maybe the Spanish are stronger, and that given the last descent, the winner by a suicidal descent will be

S Sanchez, my man for the day.  

Although I will be annoyed if Cunego pips him at the end.


How about Spartacus descending and Sammy trying to hold on (yes he did hold on) and almost hit a wall and then a barrier and then had to make up ground.
kathy

No points today!
billgull

Chapeau, Kathy!

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