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European road trip

Just got back from a weeks vacation, wished I lived closer, am a bit envious of you lot...Actually got to watch a live stage (TV) of the Vuelta while there...




MAILLOT JAUNE

Stunning pictures. Thanks cadence!
berck

MAILLOT JAUNE wrote:
Stunning pictures. Thanks cadence!


+1   thumright
cadence

Thanks

Charles bridge (Praha), Berchesgaden (Bavaria), Prague (praha) and Cesky Krumlov (Czech Republic) repectivily....
kathy

LOvely, photos, Cadence - was going to ask where it was (guessed Prague), so was more or less right Very Happy
cadence

Thanks Kathy...Austrian lake outside Salzburg...

Smile
kathy

Wolfgangsee?
cadence

kathy wrote:
Wolfgangsee?


Kathy, that may be it...I should know but I don't...I was going by towns outside of Salzburg...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&a...mp;spn=0.087766,0.198097&z=13
kathy

I asked because I spent a holiday there many years ago, and it looked familiar.
cadence

kathy wrote:
I asked because I spent a holiday there many years ago, and it looked familiar.


Kathy it was Salzkammrgut, you have a great memory of locations..
Mrs John Murphy

Go east young man. Smile St Peterburg is great, as are Warsaw, Krakow, Belgrade, Cluj, Budapest, Lviv.
mr shifter

cadence wrote:
Thanks

Charles bridge (Praha), Berchesgaden (Bavaria), Prague (praha) and Cesky Krumlov (Czech Republic) repectivily....
I do like to know where pics are and so thanks for the update.
Very good pics and now much more interesting thanks.
cadence

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Go east young man. Smile St Peterburg is great, as are Warsaw, Krakow, Belgrade, Cluj, Budapest, Lviv.


I've done Budapest, heard great things about Krakow, would like to do St Petersburg but have to work up my courage a bit to visit...thanks all for the nice comments...
SAP

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Go east young man. Smile St Peterburg is great, as are Warsaw, Krakow, Belgrade, Cluj, Budapest, Lviv.


I am planning my spring trip to Krakow, Warsaw and Prague right now!  

Great pictures cadence.  Makes me wish I was going sooner.
Mrs John Murphy

The countryside is where its at

The countryside is IMO a lot more interesting than the cities. There are quite a lot of 'agro-tourism' companies out there, and it can vary from completely self-catering etc, to homestay where you stay in part of the house of the homeowner. If you are wanting to drive around then it is a good way to see the countryside and it is often a whole lot cheaper than staying in a hotel in a city centre.

There are tons of them in the region. These are two for Transylvania but I am sure that there are similar for the mountains in Poland, the countryside in Hungary, Cz and Slovakia.

http://www.mihaieminescutrust.org/content/nd_standard.asp?n=113

or

http://www.greenmountainholidays.ro/home.html

Various photos from time in the countryside.

















SAP

Nice pictures MJM.  I plan on using the trains for part of my journey between Vienna, Prague and Krakow so I can see more of the countryside, instead of flying between the major cities on my itinerary. I have the time Very Happy  I don't have it all planned out yet, but am enjoying the process.

Thanks for the links.  I will check them out.
cadence

SAP wrote:
Mrs John Murphy wrote:
Go east young man. Smile St Peterburg is great, as are Warsaw, Krakow, Belgrade, Cluj, Budapest, Lviv.


I am planning my spring trip to Krakow, Warsaw and Prague right now!  

Great pictures cadence.  Makes me wish I was going sooner.


SAP, this is a good source or information...I like reading the forums...

www.tripadvisor.com
Severo

SAP wrote:
Nice pictures MJM.  I plan on using the trains for part of my journey between Vienna, Prague and Krakow so I can see more of the countryside, instead of flying between the major cities on my itinerary. I have the time Very Happy  I don't have it all planned out yet, but am enjoying the process.

Thanks for the links.  I will check them out.



Even if you can't buy all the tickets online, the Deutsche Bahn website will tell you most train times: http://www.bahn.de/

If you are trying to buy train tickets while in Poland, don't expect anyone selling tickets, even on the international desks, to speak anything other than Polish. Monolingualism seems to be a requirement of the job. Writing down the exact details of the train and holding your payment method does work though (it's harder to deny a ticket exists if you know all the details).
Mrs John Murphy

But where would Eastern Europe be without women of an ill-defined age, and an ill-defined haircut and colour, to sit in a booth all day?

Although most of the 'teach yourself xxx' series of books (and the 'colloquial xxx' series) have sections on buying train tickets.

I don't know what your advice would be but mine would be - stick to Inter City trains, you pay more but the conditions are better ie heating/ac will be working. First class is better because you can reserve seats, sometimes going for standard class can result in a huge scrum - not so good if you have large bags.

Be sure to take water, snacks because you are unlikely to have any sort of refreshment service other than the booths on station platforms.
Severo

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
But where would Eastern Europe be without women of an ill-defined age, and an ill-defined haircut and colour, to sit in a booth all day?

Although most of the 'teach yourself xxx' series of books (and the 'colloquial xxx' series) have sections on buying train tickets.


It's a bad trade for such ladies in Warsaw with the rollout of ticket machines meaning kiosk business is declining. Still, government offices, especially those dealing with foreigners, provide employment for them.

Mrs John Murphy wrote:
I don't know what your advice would be but mine would be - stick to Inter City trains, you pay more but the conditions are better ie heating/ac will be working. First class is better because you can reserve seats, sometimes going for standard class can result in a huge scrum - not so good if you have large bags.

Be sure to take water, snacks because you are unlikely to have any sort of refreshment service other than the booths on station platforms.


I had a positively enjoyable experience on an InterCity from Katowice to Warsaw recently (where the restaurant car had great service and wasn't even that pricey), but having spent the best part of two weeks in Ukraine, it wasn't exactly hard to feel like I was in a civilised country. I can't speak for other countries, but in Poland, it can be better/cheaper to get the second class of train (TLK) and upgrade to first class (which will always be spacious) rather than go InterCity in second class (seat reservation and newer carriages notwithstanding).
SAP

You guys are full of good advice.  Thanks for the tips!  I love train travel, enough to subject myself to Amtrak between Richmond VA and NYC earlier this year.  I could have flown, but by the time I get to my local airport and get from La Guardia to where I wanted to go, it was worth the time on the train, for me.  I don't speak Polish, only Spanish and some French, so will have to be armed with loads of info.
Still in the planning stage.  My friend doesn't like 'winging it' and wants to join a group.  Can't think of anything I would enjoy less, so I have convinced her that I will handle the details.
Mrs John Murphy

As Severo suggested - if you want to do things in advance then try http://www.bahn.com/i/view/index.shtml which should be able to give you all the info.

Also you might want to check out

http://www.seat61.com/ which is a site designed for people traveling by train.

http://www.seat61.com/Europe-trai...kets%20if%20you%20live%20overseas

Ticket prices outside the the UK are by distance and class of train. So the longer the journey and the 'faster' the train the more expensive. Again, to echo Severo I would suggest that it is better to upgrade to first class where possible. It is not going to break the bank and you can reserve seats which is important if you have a lot of luggage.

Booking in advance is pretty easy. I would not expect the ticket sellers to speak english. Even in Vienna at Westbanhof I found that the ticket sellers were mono-lingual.

If you are doing a lot of travelling then you might want to consider getting a railpass rather than point to point tickets. Again, the seat61 site has a discussion of their relative merits.
cadence

Avoid Rail Europe when buying your tickets...

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTo...Paris_Ile_de_France.html#26413206
Guiness

Re: The countryside is where its at


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Nice pictures! Love these two.
Severo

SAP, if you need any more help, let us know!

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