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HuwB

Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde and Ronde van Vlaanderen 2013

Hope this is OK with folks, to lump these 4 Flanders days together.

De Panne kicks off today with the massed ranks of sprinters gathered at the start.

Cavendish, Sagan, Viviani, Greipel, Dehaes, Cooke, Bazayev, Guarnieri, Kristof, Demare, Ferarri, Kittel, Veelers, Markus, Van Hummel, Chicchi, Modolo, Van Staeyen, Ciolek, Voss, Napolitano, ....
Startlist:
http://www.veloclub-depanne.be/inschrijving_nl.html

Profiles:
Stage 1:



Stage 2 profile:





Stage 3A profile:





Stage 3B profile (ITT):

HuwB

The Ronde's profile and startlist:


http://rvv.pro.p.assets.flandersc...men-map-profile.pdf?1363371475%22

Omega Pharma – Quick-Step
1. BOONEN Tom
2. CHAVANEL Sylvain
3. KEISSE Iljo
4. KWIATKOWSKI Michal
5. STEEGMANS Gert
6. STYBAR Zdenek
7. TERPSTRA Niki
8. VANDENBERGH Stijn

AG2R La Mondiale
11. APPOLLONIO Davide
12. BAGDONAS Gediminas
13. BELLETTI Manuel
14. CHAINEL Steve
15. HOULE Hugo
16. IGLINSKIY Valentin
17. MINARD Sébastien
18. MONDORY Lloyd

Astana Pro Team
21. BAZAYEV Assan
22. BOZIC Borut
23. GRIVKO Andriy
24. GRUZDEV Dmitriy
25. GUARNIERI Jacopo
26. IGLINSKIY Maxim
27. LUTSENKO Aleksey
28. MURAVYEV Dmitriy

Blanco Pro Cycling Team
31. BOOM Lars
32. FLENS Rick
33. LEEZER Tom
34. TJALLINGII Maarten
35. VAN EMDEN Jos
36. VANMARCKE Sep
37. WAGNER Robert
38. WYNANTS Maarten

BMC Racing Team
41. BURGHARDT Marcus
42. GILBERT Philippe
43. HUSHOVD Thor
44. OSS Daniel
45. PHINNEY Taylor
46. QUINZIATO Manuel
47. SCHAR Michael
48. VAN AVERMAET Greg

Cannondale Pro Cycling Team
51. BODNAR Maciej
52. DA DALTO Mauro
53. KING Edward
54. KOREN Kristjan
55. MARANGONI Alan
56. SABATINI Fabio
57. SAGAN Peter
58. VIVIANI Elia

Euskaltel – Euskadi
61. BILBAO Peio
62. GARCIA AMBROA Ricardo
63. KOCJAN Jure
64. RADOCHLA Steffen
65. SAEZ DE ARREGI Adrian
66. SCHULZE Andre
67. SEREBRYAKOV Alexander
68. TAMOURIDIS Ioannis

Equipe Cycliste FDJ
71. BONNET William
72. BOUCHER David
73. DELAGE Mickaël
74. DEMARE Arnaud
75. FISCHER Murilo Antonio
76. GESLIN Anthony
77. LADAGNOUS Matthieu
78. OFFREDO Yoann

Garmin – Sharp
81. BAUER Jack (?)
82. FARRAR Tyler
83. KLIER Andreas
84. MAASKANT Martijn
85. MILLAR David
86. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas
88. VANSUMMEREN Johan

Katusha Team
91. FLORENCIO Xavier
92. GUSEV Vladimir
93. ISAYCHEV Vladimir
94. KRISTOFF Alexander
95. KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr
96. PAOLINI Luca
97. SELIG Rüdiger
98. SMUKULIS Gatis

Lampre – Merida
101. CATTANEO Mattia
102. CIMOLAI Davide
103. FAVILLI Elia
104. FERRARI Roberto
105. GRAZIATO Massimo
106. PETACCHI Alessandro
107. POZZATO Filippo
108. VIGANO Davide

Lotto Belisol Team
111. BAK Lars Ytting
112. BILLE Gaetan
113. CORDEEL Sander
114. DEBUSSCHERE Jens
115. GREIPEL Andre
116. NEYENS Maarten
117. ROELANDTS Jurgen
118. SIEBERG Marcel

Movistar Team
121. AMADOR Andrey
122. DOWSETT Alex
123. ERVITI Imanol
124. GUTIERREZ Iván
125. ROJAS Jose Joaquin
126. SANZ Enrique
127. VENTOSO Francisco José
128. VISCONTI Giovanni

Orica GreenEDGE
131. COOKE Baden
132. DOCKER Mitchell
133. GOSS Matthew
134. KEUKELEIRE Jens
135. LANGEVELD Sebastian
136. MOURIS Jens
137. O’GRADY Stuart
138. TUFT Svein
139. BEPPU Fumiyuki

RadioShack – Leopard
141. CANCELLARA Fabian
142. DEVOLDER Stijn
143. GALLOPIN Tony
144. HONDO Danilo
145. IRIZAR Markel
146. NIZZOLO Giacomo
147. POPOVYCH Yaroslav
148. RAST Gregory

Sky Procycling
151. BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
152. EISEL Bernhard
153. PUCCIO Salvatore
154. RASCH Gabriel
155. ROWE Luke
156. STANNARD Ian
157. SUTTON Chris
158. THOMAS Geraint

Team Argos – Shimano
161. ARNDT Nikias
162. CURVERS Roy
163. DE BACKER Bert
164. DE KORT Koen
165. DEGENKOLB John
166. VAN RENSBURG Reinardt Janse
167. SINKELDAM Ramon
168. STAMSNIJDER Tom

Team Saxo-Tinkoff
171. BENNATI Daniele
172. BRESCHEL Matti
173. JUUL-JENSEN Christopher
174. AAEN JORGENSEN Jonas
175. KUMP Marko
176. LUND Anders
177. MøRKøV Michael
178. TOSATTO Matteo

Vacansoleil – DCM
181. BOECKMANS Kris
182. BOLE Grega
183. FLECHA Juan Antonio
184. LEUKEMANS Bjorn
185. LINDEMAN Bert-Jan
186. SELVAGGI Mirko
187. VAN POPPEL Boy
188. VEUCHELEN Frederik

Accent.jobs – Wanty
191. CAPPELLE Andy
192. COMMEYNE Davy
193. DRUCKER Jean-Pierre
194. JANS Roy
195. SCHEIRLINCKX Staf
196. VAN DIJK Stefan
197. VANLANDSCHOOT James
198. VERRAES Benjamin

Crelan-Euphony
201. PREMONT Christophe
202. BARBE Koen
203. BREYNE Jonathan
204. CLAEYS Kevin
205. HOVELIJNCK Kurt
206. JUODVALKIS Egidijus
207. PLANCKAERT Baptiste
208. VANTOMME Maxime

IAM Cycling

211. BANDIERA Marco
212. ELMIGER Martin
213. GODDAERT Kristof
214. HAUSSLER Heinrich
215. HINAULT Sébastien
216. KLEMME Dominik
217. LARSSON Gustav Erik
218. PELUCCHI Matteo

Europcar
221. CHAVANEL Sébastien
222. COUSIN Jérôme
223. GAUDIN Damien
224. GENE Yohann
225. JEROME Vincent
226. PICHOT Alexandre
227. TURGOT Sébastien
228. VOECKLER Thomas

Team NetApp – Endura
231. DEMPSTER Zakkari
232. DOWNING Russell
233. EICHLER Markus
234. JARC Blaz
235. SCHILLINGER Andreas
236. SCHORN Daniel
237. VOSS Paul
238. WETTERHALL Alexander

Topsport Vlaanderen – Baloise
241. DE VREESE Laurens
242. JACOBS Pieter
243. NEIRYNCK Stijn
244. SALOMEIN Jarl
245. VAN ASBROECK Tom
246. VAN HOECKE Gijs
247. VANDOUSSELAERE Sven
248. WALLAYS Jelle

Vini Fantini
251. ANDRIATO Rafael
252. CHICCHI Francesco
253. DE NEGRI Pier Paolo
254. FAILLI Francesco
255. FINETTO Mauro
256. GATTO Oscar
257. HULSMANS Kevin
258. POZZO Mattia
HuwB

The dead zone.
66 kms to go:
http://cricfree.tv/update/euro2.php
kathy

FP thread for Flanders now available here.

http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/sutra208378.php#208378

11km to go in de Panne, and Sagan attacks!
HuwB

Sagan shuts out Demare..................literally.
kathy

Did he get away with it?  Looked a bit obvious Mad
gerry12ie

I enjoyed that.  Even though Sagan looked terrifyingly imperious at times, Demare had him beat in the sprint if he didn't have to adjust.  More of the same tomorrow I guess, and that will do for me!

Might as well have a look at the favourites for Sunday:

Sagan - His shadow is looming ever larger over this race.  Will this be his inauguration as Monument Monster?  He jumped too easily at Chavanel's shadow at MSR, got caught napping by Boonen and Cancellara at E3, but had time for a one-handed wheelie at GW and looked super, super strong today.  A clear favourite but might just be done by experience.

Cancellara - Might have won MSR with a slightly better timed sprint and won doing handstands at E3, so obviously has his best spring form.  Untouchable like 2010 - I think not but he will almost surely leave his mark.  If he gets that length or two and the others stare at each other he might just ride away again.  Looks as confident as Sagan in his own way and with some justification.

Boonen - Looks unlikely now that Tomekke will trouble the history books on Sunday, and if his form is as off as looks he might just preserve a bit of effort for the following Sunday and the chance of a fifth PR.  Nonetheless, if any one team can determine the winner it will be OPQS so I wouldn't rule him out entirely, but if the bookies have him at 18/1 then I think that tells us where he is form wise.  

Chavanel - I think he has an outstanding chance.  He has looked strong and consistent this season and really should have won RVV two years ago.  Might he be the first French monument winner since Jaja?  

BMC - Every time I (justifiably) moan about Hushovd he proves me wrong quite spectacularly but for me he is now the Andy Schleck of the classics.  Gilbert continues to mine his 2012 seam of form having lost his Lotto mojo.  Van Avermaet remains their best classics rider by some distance and is a good shout for a podium.

Sky - Might be in a bit of a BMC predicament.  EBH was to be to the classics what Andy Schleck was to be to GTs, but is straying into Hushovd country in that regard.  Thomas looks strong but is he a genuine threat?  For me Stannard looks perfectly comfortable in the highest classic company and might well be their best placed rider.

The Others -  Paolini looks strong, Pozzato might pad out the top ten, and Leukemans might well be around at the finish but it looks like a showdown between Sagan and Cancellara.  

Unless of course they mark each other out of it... Wink

The misery heaped on misery that constitutes Northern European weather has at least made my mind up to stay put in Bruges for the race rather than stand on a freezing, muddy berg.  Juliper in plastic cups in a beer tent is alright by times, but discretion is the better part of a Westmalle in a bar with lunch, a TV, and a menu with 300 beers.  Or is 400? Razz
gerry12ie

Cyclismas would be more impressed with Sagan's celebrations if they were like this...


HuwB

Lucky the weather is playing ball.
See Eurosport are now down to show tomorrow morning's half stage live.
So they should.
Biosphere

It actually looks like a pleasant spring day today even if I know it's colder than it looks. Sprint finish looking likely with 20 km to go.

Edit: Surprised to see Sagan hanging around at back of bunch (admittedly a small one). He could be beaten by a broken collarbone on Sunday too.

Edit: So the cyborg is human after all or is just soft tapping his way to Sunday.
Boogerd_Fan

No pressure.. he did the same thing last year… Good thinking though, I wouldn’t think it makes sense to go hard for 3 days in the midweek before your seasons number 1 objective.
HuwB

No respect for the leader's jersey from Sagan. Wink

Just didn't want to risk mxing it with the big boys when he's got a big Sunday date.

Long sprint that. Viviani clearly the king of the 25 metre sprint. Smile
Biosphere

Suggestion that Sagan will be a DNS tomorrow since he doesn't need to be presented with a 'jersey'

Amused by Cavendish trying to escape from the peloton with 2km to go Wink Greipel won the sprint for the 100m marker Rolling Eyes
Boogerd_Fan

I think Sagan will DNS the TT
Biosphere

Another 'nice' spring day on the Belgian coast. Kristoff takes a bit of a messy sprint from Modolo and Viviani. Looked like he went far too soon, but he was strong and Modolo tried to come off his wheel but got nowhere and had started to tuck back in for second when they crossed the line.

Chavanel placed well on GC for this afternoon's ITT.
Biosphere

This is more relevant to the Flanders FP thread

http://justcycling.myfastforum.org/sutra208407.php#208407

but rather than post random thoughts over there, for now I'm wondering if it's Cancellara's turn to get Devoldered or is his role to be the centurion by his master's side?
HuwB

Considering it's virtually a flat stage race, I once again quite enjoyed the De Panne Experience.
Chavanel sure does have good form, while Boonan is more of an enigma; a bit like Radio Shack in reverse.
Certainly surprised to see Gilbert scratch, as too Phinney, although it's not really his cup of tea.

In the meantime, we have a nice little filler, before Sunday's main event.
The Volta Limburg has extensive live coverage on Saturday, with usually good feed quality. ( I now have it on my all singing and dancing tv  Smile )

I doubt there will be any GP Mig Indurain, though. A couple of years since that stopped being live.
mr shifter

Biosphere wrote:
I'm wondering if it's Cancellara's turn to get Devoldered


Must be an OPQS option but Tom won't be happy to have that happen yet again.
HuwB

Volta Limburg coverage will be live here, today from about 15-00cet:

http://player.l1.nl/
(already working)

The Climbs:

Heiweg Eijsden 1900m 69m 3.6%
Bukel Margraten 900m 37m 4.1%
Örenberg Margraten 600m 39m 6.5%
Keunestraat Margraten 800m 43m 5.4%
Bergenhuizen Margraten 600m 48m 8.0%
Scheij Margraten 1800m 55m 3.1%
Loorberg Slenaken 1500m 83m 5.5%
Varnstraat Voeren 1300m 61m 4.7%
Crindaal Voeren 1600m 92m 5.8%

All ridden 3 times. A pity that the only flat in the race comes with the final kms.
Fontfroide

Volta Limburg also known as Hel van het Mergelland

Now I have to admit I had never noticed this race existed.  No real idea what it means, although obviously it might be a second tier race for those not invited to the Tour of Flanders, or something to give the second half of a team a workout or, no idea at all.  May even watch a minute or two if the weather is so bad I don't go for a ride.  I guess Ciolek might win.

thank you Huw, for telling me, once again, something I don't know.
Boogerd_Fan

weird that they named the race Volta like Spanish/Portugese... nice region Limburg. If you like it lumpy.
HuwB

Live now with 81kms to go.............
Quality breakaway with some really big names, including Wilco Kelderman.
Boogerd_Fan



Nice!
mr shifter

Interesting post, Huw
Have been browsing the Parcours and found that I've cycled around this finish area back in the 90's when the Amstel Gold came down a Belgian hill on the other side of the River and the Canal.
There is a pedestrian ferry that also carries bikes across the river.
That part of the Amstel course has changed a few years ago when there was "Foot & Mouth" disease and the Border into Belgium was closed to motor traffic. They never routed the course that way again.
Pleasant memories for me. thanks.
mr shifter

Boogerd_Fan wrote:
weird that they named the race Volta like Spanish/Portugese... nice region Limburg. If you like it lumpy.
But you were a Spanish Territory about the time our Francis Drake sunk most of the Spanish Armada.  Rolling Eyes
HuwB

Mmmm, was beginning to think that technical difficulties were not going to be sorted, but we are back live with 33 kms left.
Old man Rebellin stirring up the kop group
HuwB

Selig owned the uphill sprint.
Katusha keeping their winning ways.
Cobrelli
Martens
Rebellin
Lithgart
Biosphere

Boonen out after a crash Sad
HuwB

Feckin family.
I can't watch the whole race, but I was trying to watch this.
Boonan stopped for a pee break and ended up on the pavement.
Biosphere

I know the feeling. I've been on a cycling diet all week so I could indulge myself today but apparently were off to the playground now. Oh well I might as well Laughing about it. Back later.
Boogerd_Fan

Europecar really driving them on... Tommy must be feeling fresh & hungry
Beasley

With Gilbert DNS'ing and Boonen crashing out (& out of P-R, too) the bookies won't be taking any bets on Sagan.

Saying that, RadioShack are putting the hard yards in for Cancellara so he must be feeling good.
Beasley

Sep Vanmarcke hits the deck. Heavy fall; doubled over in pain gripping his knee, by the looks of it. Might be race over for him.
Biosphere

EBH closer to the front than I would have expected. Not one of Sky's protected ones today?
maffy

supposedly all for geraint today, so ebh! will probly do ok

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/k...omas-can-win-the-tour-of-flanders
Biosphere

The usual Koppenberg komedy. Stannard and Terpstra caught out.
Beasley

Always have, and likely always will, be torn on the Koppenberg.

Iconic to the race but, in my book, if a pro can't get up there on a road bike it shouldn't be in a road race.
Fontfroide

Bit strong Beasley.  Seems the riders should just have decent gears and go more slowly if they have to.  But they don't, so they fall over.
Beasley

Race over for Thomas. Hit the deck at the wrong time just as BMC upped the pace. Sky racing for EBH, I expect?
Fontfroide

However unlikely, I do hope EBH finally springs forth from his usual excellent work to become "great".  Although I rank him already tops in the boring commentary contest.  A modest fellow.
Biosphere

I expected after the cautious way it was ridden last year, they would know better how to race it this year. They still seem nervous about the final lap. I'd probably vote for the old circuit in future, but with all those VIP spots to sell on the loops probably not.
Biosphere

Finally!
Beasley

Cancellara puts in the big dig, distances everyone but Sagan who follows with ease.

Will they work together?
Beasley

Sagan's cracked!
Biosphere

Cancellara adding the seconds as if he was just counting them out!
Fontfroide

I say Cancellara must have a better and smaller motor in his … body.

Hard to believe how he cleaned up everyone but Sagan, then did Sagan.  Still lots to ride for, but goodness gracious.
CapeRoadie

So glad to see that amazingly doped rider Sagan get dropped on the Kwaremont!
Fontfroide

HOw does Fabian ride faster than a whole group.  Incredible.
Beasley

He's taken 30s in 4km. All over. Extraordinary.
CapeRoadie

Fontfroide wrote:
HOw does Fabian ride faster than a whole group.  Incredible.


World ITT multiple winner!  Perfect timing.  POWER.  Spartacus has returned!
Biosphere

Fontfroide wrote:
HOw does Fabian ride faster than a whole group.  Incredible.


The Italians go for fantastico  Wink
Fontfroide

He really is too much.  He does it, everyone knows he will do it, and no one can do anything about it.

I am delighted,even though I ditched him for Pozzato.  Who I believe DID turn up.  

A champ.
Fontfroide

CapeRoadie wrote:
So glad to see that amazingly doped rider Sagan get dropped on the Kwaremont!


I am happy the old guy beat the young guy.  Of course I have always believed Fabian is clean.  But then I think everyone is, until they get busted.  

Absolutely stunning how Sagan ALMOST kept up with him, everyone else dropped,and Sagan almost kept up, just until the corner, then the space appeared.   Give him ten metres, and that's it.  And everyone knew what he was going to do.  Everyone.  Even I knew.
Fontfroide

Two French riders in the top eight.  Not the usual sort of thing.  Times change.
Nolte

CapeRoadie wrote:
So glad to see that amazingly doped rider Sagan get dropped on the Kwaremont!


looking at it, sagan seemed to have maybe suffered a hunger knock when cancellarrallarrallarralla went away on the kwaremont.

earlier when there was bottles out for sagan, he dropped one so i'm thinking the knock was due to that.
Fontfroide

But Nolte, maybe he just was not as strong as Cancellara.  That is twice in a week or so that Sagan was dropped on a steep hill by Fabian.  Sagan was stronger than everyone else in the peloton, review the climb again.  But Fabian was stronger than him.  I doubt, although one cannot be sure, that Sagan didn't eat enough.  And in the end, Sagan and Roelandts kept off the entire peloton.  So they were pretty good.

Did Fabian not drop Sagan (and the world) on the Paterberg?
Boogerd_Fan

Speaking as Sagan's biggest fan... got to say the strongest rider won today. This was not bad luck like last year blocking the way for Peter to make the final selection. I still believe there are some doubts about Sagan's temperament and power after 250km..... MSR showed he has a weakened sprint, and here his climbing prowess was tested and broken.

Unlike in E3 Harelbeke, Sagan was able to stay with Fabian over the Kwaremont... but the war of attrition was just too much in the end.

Bit of a timid race to be honest. Had OPQS been at full force in the last 60km i guess we'd have seen some more fireworks. It came down to Canc going when he would go, and as no-one was able to match it... quite an easy conclusion.
Bartali

Im with Boogie.  The strongest man won today, but I'm bemused as to why Cape has a big downer on the 'doper' Sagan but not on the man that put a km into him?  Either we enjoy the race for what it is or call 'em both out?

Personally I thought it was a bit dull ... but hats off to the Big Swiss for doing what he does best!  You can't ask for more ....
Fontfroide

I agree with Bartali that it was a bit dull.  Its like those mountain stages where everyone rides together until the last five k and then we wait for a bit to see who attacks and wins.

Admittedly there were two attacks, one each on the last two climbs.  the second attack was incredible, everyone dropped except Sagan, and then the young fellow just slipped away.  Sagan was still strong enough to keep off the peloton.

And yet I continually am amazed by Cancellara, doing what he does.  In P-R, everyone knows he will try to attack in one of the later cobbled bits, as far out as fifty k.  If I knew the course well enough, I might be able to predict which bit.  The question will be whether anyone can keep up, or think of some other strategy.  I suppose if he loses all his support things could get tough.
HuwB

Had my jury out, last year, in respect of this "lap".
The jury is now in: it's awful.
What a dull edition of the Ronde.
A trend I expect to repeat, with everybody now waiting for the final loop.

Not sure if Sagan was riding extremely smart, or as I suspect, rather dumb, by taking those couple of turns on the front.

Other than that, a race worthy of little comment.
Fontfroide

Maybe someone could have a word with Sagan.  Does anyone on this forum think this is cute or fun?

Boogerd_Fan

also can't understand the pulls - surely the tactic there was to sit on Canc wheel, if the group came back, it would give more chance to cover another move in a group and not remain isolated.

Having said that, maybe he was worried about Roelandts up the road at that point, and wanted to press on until they were head of the course?
Slapshot 3

Fontfroide wrote:
Maybe someone could have a word with Sagan.  Does anyone on this forum think this is cute or fun?



I see a young guy having fun and a bit of a laugh for the cameras, he's smiling and lets be honest, it looks like a bum cheek I wouldn't mind squeezing either ..... <("), It's harmless fun and playing a wee bit to the camera

Spartacus has just won Flanders FFS he looks sodding miserable, I know who's shoes I'd rather be in at that moment
Fontfroide

Maybe Fabian thinks the nonsense with the chicks kissing is about a century out of date, and he would rathe have a handshake and the flowers.

I assume you read Michelle Cooke's retirement address.  Any echoes?  cycling has more than doping to deal with.
Nolte

i don't think sagan should have done it but he is young and probably doesn't know any better. maybe some one from cannondale should just say politely to him about this.
HuwB

Fontfroide

Now that is funny.  Or is it?   Wink
Boogerd_Fan

absolutely hilarious... we all know Sagan's got Boonen by the balls anyway - faster in a sprint, and faster uphill!!!

only the Canc express can derail the Tourminator!
MS

Slapshot 3 wrote:
Fontfroide wrote:
Maybe someone could have a word with Sagan.  Does anyone on this forum think this is cute or fun?



I see a young guy having fun and a bit of a laugh for the cameras, he's smiling and lets be honest, it looks like a bum cheek I wouldn't mind squeezing either ..... <("), It's harmless fun and playing a wee bit to the camera


He's 23 years-old, has traveled all over the world and thinks that is appropriate behavior or a good prank? He's an idiot.

I'm impressed by some pros who seem articulate and intelligent. There's a great number who, frankly, seem dumber than the football or basketball athletes here in the States who are so often stereotyped as "dumb jocks."
berck

Sagan's antics are front page on Yahoo! now...

Slovakian cyclist pinches backside of ‘podium girl,’ later apologizes after heavy criticism
kathy

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID...-grabbing-on-Flanders-podium.aspx
Biosphere

Sagan was wrong on the podium. I doubt the apologies are from him.

Back to the race, I thought it was fair enough that he took pulls. Fight it out for a 1-2 rather than drop back into the bunch which would be more difficult to control? I think Cancellara has probably learnt his lesson and wouldn't have towed him to the line anyway if he hadn't co-operated. It's Sagan's turn to be marked this season?

New circuit is not working for me. Today we had the likes of Chavanel saying that the new template for riding the race is going to be to wait until the final lap and then go. Even then I'm not convinced that the Paterberg is long enough to drop someone reliably. I had expected Sagan to stick with him yesterday because of it's length. The Muur gives much more scope for a successful attack as there already is the climb up to it before hitting the cobbles which I think gives much more chance of putting someone into the red before reaching the chapel.

It would have been interesting to see what Thomas could have done, but I suspect the Sky may need to rethink cycling up volcanoes as classics preparation. I suppose he'll go and win next Sunday now!

Some photos from the Grubers. Not as good as usual IMO, but even that's a level I wouldn't mind being at Smile Slideshow button followed by F11 on keyboard is probably the best way to view - just remember to hit F11 again after viewing to get back to normal.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smashred/sets/72157633138389773/
Nolte

it doesn't seem a sincere apology but looking at it and the use of the word "disturbed", this would indicated the apology is someone who doesn't have english as a first language so on this basis, the apology would seem to be from him.
Nolte

Biosphere wrote:
Sagan was wrong on the podium. I doubt the apologies are from him.

Back to the race, I thought it was fair enough that he took pulls. Fight it out for a 1-2 rather than drop back into the bunch which would be more difficult to control? I think Cancellara has probably learnt his lesson and wouldn't have towed him to the line anyway if he hadn't co-operated. It's Sagan's turn to be marked this season?


was it two years ago when van summeran won paris roubaix that cancellara took issue with (?) hushovd for not pulling on the front and cancellara just stopped working altogether and they began a staring contest?

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It would have been interesting to see what Thomas could have done, but I suspect the Sky may need to rethink cycling up volcanoes as classics preparation. I suppose he'll go and win next Sunday now!


watching thomas intently during the race, i think he might have been badly positioned at the time of his crash but then again crashes happen at the front aswell so that's not really good reason of being badly positioned.
gerry12ie

Well, it was just desserts for Cancellara who was simply the strongest and ultimately the smartest.  Sure, the opposition played into his hands but he did what he was always going to do and both his attacks were timed perfectly and executed brilliantly.  I’m afraid this route isn’t a classic though and we might have been looking at a bunch sprint at one stage, so it really should be case of the Muur returning to liven things up but I think they have sadly committed to three years of this route IIRC.  I think the weather must have had a big part to play though as it was bitterly cold with quite a few snow flurries in Bruges throughout the day.  On the way down to the start at 8 am there was even a few stretches of the canals iced up.  Overall, the race was a bit too predictable and lacked excitement but there were a few notable points.  Not for the first time I was impressed by the excellent Kwiatkowski (the Tour of Poland has been a nice indicator of future form and potential in recent years) , whose team performed lamentably after Boonen’s exit, and Greipel’s strong showing makes you wonder what he might do with a serious focus on P-R in the future.  Ultimately though it ended up being all about Sagan and Cancellara and the best man (in more ways than one) won.

Sagan’s antics on the podium are a disgrace by the way.  It isn’t funny, it’s not youthful high jinks, and it is unforgivable.  It is crass, idiotic bullying that wouldn’t be tolerated in other sports and should be summarily punished.  Someone doing their job should simply be never subjected to that kind of behaviour by any boorish lout.  Period.  It was noteworthy in the Bruges bar that I watched the race in there wasn’t much love for Sagan before and during the race among a good mix of Belgians, French, Dutch, Germans and English, and that was before he acted like an even bigger arsehole.  The CN piece http://www.cyclingnews.com/featur...e-on-sagans-flanders-podium-pinch says it alot better.

Looks like the Gorilla heard me thinking out loud http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/g...deprijs-with-eye-on-paris-roubaix
HuwB

Scheldeprijs live here is anyone is interested:
http://sports-livez.com/channel/ch-3.php
Biosphere

Ta. Just came looking for that. ES showing Basque rerun.

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