Biosphere
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David Millar doesn't like CyclingThis is about Agassi, but I thought the Millar, Boardman and Pendleton anecdotes made it worth posting and the whole article is interesting.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/29/andre-agassi-hate-tennis
I wonder how it relates to the likes of Obree, Pantani and Vandenbroucke?
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Bartali
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I don't find it surprising.
I'm not sure I like cycling. Sure I like watching it and reading about it. I like the history and I like bikes. And I like overcoming my own personal challenges ... a bit like Boardman's 'winning'. But do I like putting all those miles in every weekend or hitting the rollers or turbo after a 12 hour working day? I'm not sure I do.
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mr shifter
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| Bartali wrote: | I don't find it surprising.
I'm not sure I like cycling. Sure I like watching it and reading about it. I like the history and I like bikes. And I like overcoming my own personal challenges ... a bit like Boardman's 'winning'. But do I like putting all those miles in every weekend or hitting the rollers or turbo after a 12 hour working day? I'm not sure I do. |
There, and I thought you made your "sore" point about not being a racing man but having all the gear that some people Begrudge.
Did I misunderstand something in an earlier post of yours.????????
I don't count these days but for what it's worth.
I do enjoy cycling for all the pleasures it brings about the Freedom to roam with the sights and smells it brings. (yeh OK some good and bad)
I just wish I could put the miles in now instead of my bike coming out of the boot for my little circuit rides.
(don't scoff but remember my RTA)
The "TOUR de FRANCE" and how much of that is TOURING ????
These cyclists that have been mentioned, have lost their early enjoyment they had because they chase the pot of gold and become greedy and let it become their day job.
I enjoy watching Eddy Merckx or Sean Kelly still out on their bikes with Nothing to Prove.!!
Be Lucky.......but not today as we finally have some Wind and Rain at last and I wouldn't enjoy a bike ride today.
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Bartali
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Not sure what earlier posts you are referring to? I have done a lot of ITT and a bit of road racing, but all a long long time ago. These days I target the odd sportive and train so as to better enjoy riding in the Alps and Pyrenees. I might even try some ITT and hill climbs next year ... but too old and slow for proper road racing.
As to having all the gear etc ... well I am fortunate enough (or maybe unfortunate enough) to be able to indulge my passion for bikes as I have few other commitments in life. Do I think many cyclists begrudge us middle aged riders with all the gear? Yeap - sure they do. But each to there own - I don't take offense.
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CapeRoadie
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| Bartali wrote: | I don't find it surprising.
I'm not sure I like cycling. Sure I like watching it and reading about it. I like the history and I like bikes. And I like overcoming my own personal challenges ... a bit like Boardman's 'winning'. But do I like putting all those miles in every weekend or hitting the rollers or turbo after a 12 hour working day? I'm not sure I do. |
Sounds like burnout to me, Bart. Maybe you need a rest.
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SlowRower
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Pro sport is just a job, ultimately, and a bl**dy hard one at that. I don't think many, if any people like their job all day and every day. For most people, a job is just something that pays the mortgage.
Steve Redgrave said that his training involved hours of time in the cold, wind and rain, with freezing hands, with Matt Pinsent's a*se as his only view. And that was the good part. The timed weights and rowing machine sessions were really unpleasant!
Lots of "weekend warriors" I know tend to rotate between some or all of running, cycling, swimming, rowing and triathlon to keep fresh mentally and maintain their enjoyment.
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Enchantress
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Interesting discussion.
For one, I know that I love cycling. That is a bit of a broad term though 'cycling' - riding my bike and training yes, I enjoy those things immensely.
Now cycling 'culture' and cycling as a sport, be it local races or otherwise, in general though, I'm less enamored with. Perhaps it is a function of living in America, but there's much of it that I do not care for.
Maybe I need to stick with TT's and hill climbs this coming year...
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Bartali
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| CapeRoadie wrote: | | Bartali wrote: | I don't find it surprising.
I'm not sure I like cycling. Sure I like watching it and reading about it. I like the history and I like bikes. And I like overcoming my own personal challenges ... a bit like Boardman's 'winning'. But do I like putting all those miles in every weekend or hitting the rollers or turbo after a 12 hour working day? I'm not sure I do. |
Sounds like burnout to me, Bart. Maybe you need a rest. |
Just not having a good day Cape ...
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Mrs John Murphy
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Most people hate their jobs, their bosses and their colleagues - those who say otherwise are liars. It makes perfect sense for riders to hate the sport.
The interesting point about any amateur/hobby activity - whether it is cycling, birdwatching, football etc, is the seriousness with which people take it, and the amount of emotional energy people invest within and in turn it ceases to be fun.
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thunderthighs
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when bordum sets in, mouth begins to wonder..ciao
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mr shifter
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| Bartali wrote: | | CapeRoadie wrote: |
Sounds like burnout to me, Bart. Maybe you need a rest. |
Just not having a good day Cape ... |
Nah, it was p*ssing with rain and wind till the afternoon. ! (about time)
So it's to do with those dark nights and Winter Blues and so I'm off to Stanford U next saturday.
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Nolte
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i recall reading seán kelly never liked cycling, it was just a way to make a living
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The Lemondheads
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anything can become a chore, even riding your bike if you have to do it every day. I'm a pro cyclist in the sense that it's my only way of getting to work so monday morning 7am, it's get up, ride your bike for an hour. I totally did not want to do that this morning but I had to; I can see that it's got to be even worse for a pro. I also have to travel a lot for my real job and stay in a lot of hotels, and that sounds great but is actually a load of shit.
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last km
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I once asked Sean Kelly if he missed the racing, he was commentating on Paris Nice at the time.....one word anwer...no
I have raced pretty much most of my life, at the moment I dont, and I find it hard to take it easy when out........if I see someone in the distance, I still get the compulsion to catch them, oh and if someone has the audacity to pass me, I feel obliged to sit on their wheel
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Nolte
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| last km wrote: | I once asked Sean Kelly if he missed the racing, he was commentating on Paris Nice at the time.....one word anwer...no
I have raced pretty much most of my life, at the moment I dont, and I find it hard to take it easy when out........if I see someone in the distance, I still get the compulsion to catch them, oh and if someone has the audacity to pass me, I feel obliged to sit on their wheel  |
i was passed once when out cycling. i tried to stick in the guys wheel but after about 100 meters, i just saw him go off further in the distance. i'm not very good
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