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Critérium du Dauphiné 2014

....... Oh my!!!  Can't believe this is in an ASO race!



How will Fwoomie's power meter cope with that.... It's sublime!!
Bartali

Smile Does that really say 28%?  Smile
Slapshot 3

Bartali wrote:
Smile Does that really say 28%?  Smile


Yup...I had to look twice as well...belter of a climb last 200m at 28.3%
gerry12ie

Cobo Wink
Biosphere

That's what happens when you leave France and go to a country with real mountains Wink
Slapshot 3

The whole of stage 7 is a monster.... this is brilliant!!


gerry12ie

I have a feeling Froomey might piss on your chips lads...
HuwB

Slapshot 3 wrote:
The whole of stage 7 is a monster.... this is brilliant!!



Everything that a TDF should be, but isn't.
Not sure about the 28% finish, though.
I have a feeling that it will kill any attacking intention, as effectively as any
Sky train.

The Dauphine is a bit different this year. No long ITT, just a longish prologue and a testy MTF for stage 1.
mr shifter

Biosphere wrote:
That's what happens when you leave France and go to a country with real mountains Wink
Mind the Dinosaurs if you go a little higher.
Biosphere

mr shifter wrote:
Biosphere wrote:
That's what happens when you leave France and go to a country with real mountains Wink
Mind the Dinosaurs if you go a little higher.


It's great for kids around here - you can basically go for a walk in woods around where we live and they will find something within a few minutes. Nothing as exciting as dinosaurs, but 200 million year old sea shells atop a mountain range in a land locked country still makes the mind boggle scratch


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Anyway, apologies for the diversion to the Juras. Back to the Alps and I have broadened out the thread to include the other seven stages. The opening stage has already started so probably coverage to be found soon.  

Start times include

11:46 W. Kelderman (Belkin)
12:04 L. Westra (Astana)
12:07 L. Boom (Belkin)
12:12 M. Kwiatkowski (OPQS)
12:15 B. Jungels (Trek Factory Racing)
12:26 R. Porte (Team Sky)
12:47 G. Thomas (Team Sky)
12:35 T. Van Garderen (BMC
13:13 R. Navardauskas (Garmin-Sharp)
13:14 A. Démare (FDJ.fr)
14:12 J. Barta (NetApp-Endura)
14:03 T. Gallopin (Lotto Belisol)
14:16 A. Talansky (Garmin-Sharp)
14:23 Sy. Chavanel (IAM Cycling)
14:30 A. Contador (Tinkoff-Saxo)
14:31 V. Nibali (Astana)
14:32 C. Froome (Team Sky)

Kelderman leads at the moment.
HuwB

Just starting live coverage on Eurosport..................and I have to go out, again.
Biosphere

France 3 is live now and Bob is King of the Jungle. Off out to enjoy the sunshine with the boys.

Edit: I can't even beat Huw in a game of Snap Wink
MAILLOT JAUNE

Love the fossils Bio!
gerry12ie

Meantime Nibali's TT continues to improve...
gerry12ie

Eight seconds Chris? EIGHT??

Dial it down FFS!
gerry12ie

*dons Hazmat suit for trip to Clinic* Wink
mr shifter

gerry12ie wrote:
Eight seconds Chris? EIGHT??

Dial it down FFS!

It means we have a week of Sky Tempo again, Oh dear. Thumb down
Bartali

Easy to forget but Nibs always did have a good ITT!
HuwB

Only now finished watching the aerial shots of Lyon,
with a bit of cycling coverage thrown in.
Mmm well, though negative splits do it again.
Form book for the rest, out the window.
Good, late fp swap I made. Thanks Geraint. Embarassed

Tomorrow and we are straight into the serious mountains.
Fontfroide

Got hung up on other things today, although I could have watched the tennis AND the TT if wanted to stay inside on this utterly glorious summer day.  Touched 30 today.  I won't admit whether I stayed in or went for a ride, but body problems made the decision.

I do apologise for my not very creative choices this race, it is a very busy time.
mazda

Alberto trying to wheelsuck Froome like he did to Valverde.
Not quite as successful this time.

Porte again not quite up to speed.
HuwB

mazda wrote:
Alberto trying to wheelsuck Froome like he did to Valverde.
Not quite as successful this time.

Porte again not quite up to speed.


Just finished watching. Much more action than I expected.
Certainly it's game on for Le Tour.
Pretty much what Mazda has said.
Porte still remains a big concern.
Still well off the pace.
Nibali continues to struggle, too.
Bartali

I was surprised Bertie didn't pinch it on the line ... I was also surprised that Froome adopted the Contador style.  Maybe he was sending a message, but I think he would have had more success with a sustained effort. [More success?  He did win it!]
Bartali

I though Nibali had a mechanical the first time they dropped him.  He was caught drinking the second time.  He's doesn't look quite with it though ...
Slapshot 3

I think this week is all going to be about mind games between the pair of them.....when it comes down to that I suspect Berto may have a bit more of the race smarts about him
gerry12ie

And we have the Eurosport dream team of 'my goodness' Kirby and 'interesting' Brian Smith...
Slapshot 3

gerry12ie wrote:
And we have the Eurosport dream team of 'my goodness' Kirby and 'interesting' Brian Smith...


I think I'm looking forward to a summer ES pictures and French ES commentary.... I wonder how far up Froome's scrawny arse Kirby can get his nose this year
gerry12ie

Good stage that. Froome was like a puppy chasing pigeons every time somebody attacked - I wonder if that naivete might cost him along the line? Contador was right on the limit by the looks of it but he is savvy. Good rides by kelderman, reichenbach, Yates and especially JVDB who suggested beforehand that if he wasn't right for this then he wouldn't ride the Tour.  

Nibali hasn't been right since the Giro last year. He looked lacklustre for much of the Vuelta - maybe a touch of arrogance, but he allowed Horner to snatch seconds when he really should have been wrapping up the race. He has been a bit whiny since and certainly wasn't in good nick today. Summat's not right...
Fontfroide

Slapshot 3 wrote:
gerry12ie wrote:
And we have the Eurosport dream team of 'my goodness' Kirby and 'interesting' Brian Smith...


I think I'm looking forward to a summer ES pictures and French ES commentary.... I wonder how far up Froome's scrawny arse Kirby can get his nose this year


If you can get BeIn, the Qatari channel, you might like the commentary teams, although I have to admit, with exceptions, they are all pretty much the same.
mazda

Watched a recording again last night.
Froome put in a lot of effort over the final 6km.
Looks like he has been practicing the usual high cadence attack and then putting in a second attack after a very brief pause.

Seems likely that he's not going to get any tactical help from anyone before the end of July.
Although others will probably be tempted once they see a chance to distance other tour GC contenders.

Nieve is a damn useful domestique to have in the team isn't he ?
Fontfroide

If I were any other team I would not give him any help.   That's for sure.  So far the evidence is that he has no need at all.  But I rather hope that some of his teammates might up their game a bit, like Porte, before the end of July.  but if Froome can ride fast enough and attack a few times so that even at the end of climb he can "sprint", then who needs help for the last few k.  

I thought he was rather impressive.  And I also hope that Contador pulls himself together, but he has a number of weeks before the third week of the Tour, so I expect he will, if he can.  And Nibali looks in good shape too or he could be by the third week.

Nice to see the younger lads doing a bit of work too, although somehow I doubt that Kelderman will ride the Tour after the Giro.  Talansky looks serious as well.
Boogerd_Fan

Belkin will be Mollema & Ten dam in the Tour with Gesink doing some superdomestique work such as finding the excuses for why he is riding way beyond expectation (again).

Kelderman's progress this year is fantastic. Hopefully he will be given a chance to go to the Tour soon too.

/edit - woops i missed this latest news http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/no-tour-de-france-for-robert-gesink  so maybe Vuelta?
HuwB

FPing heck.
Last minute swap to Demare from Arndt and what happens?
Tanya wins. Embarassed

Nizzolo out of the race, FDJ's sprinter boxed at every turn.
mr shifter

Bartali wrote:
I though Nibali had a mechanical the first time they dropped him.  He was caught drinking the second time.  He's doesn't look quite with it though ...
Not with it for sure but then did he come for a win or just the experience of French roads.
I don't think he had a panic but just smoothly rode to the top.
Devious perhaps ?
Bartali

I partly agree Mr S.  I'm not panicking yet! Smile
mazda

Nibali lost all his time in the last 500m.
6 were together under the 1km to go.
After a bit of faffing around Froome did his double attack thing.

Probably just a bit jiggered.
HuwB

Turning out to be a very good Dauphine.
Spilak takes Katusha's second breakaway win in as many days.
Great to see Contador try and rattle the mighty Sky train, with
a daring attack off the penultimate climb.
A pity it backfired somewhat, since he became isolated in the lead group,
which ultimately meant that Kelderman was able to get off the front with young Adam Yates and take the bonus seconds, which brought him level with Bertie in the GC.
Boogerd_Fan

good ride from Kelders today.. not showing signs of tiredness from Giro at all.. i suspected he would fade by Saturday, but there is hope he can keep up.. maybe more realistic would be to defend the young classement.
HuwB

Froome comes a cropper on the run in to home.
Looks fairly banged up, so could struggle tomorrow when El Pistolero turns over his big gear in earnest.

Westra unlucky to finish second, but it was either that, or put Bakelants into the crowd.
Biosphere

Not a bad weeks racing at all. Nicely poised for the weekend and Froome's crash throws it up in the air tomorrow.

The 28% ramp for the Saturday finish seems to be typo though looking at OS maps and so on. At least it's cooled down. It was 35°C here on Monday  Shocked

I hope to have a few photos to share tomorrow night Smile
Nolte

Biosphere wrote:
Not a bad weeks racing at all. Nicely poised for the weekend and Froome's crash throws it up in the air tomorrow.

The 28% ramp for the Saturday finish seems to be typo though looking at OS maps and so on. At least it's cooled down. It was 35°C here on Monday  Shocked


damn, i was going to have cake specially prepared for it

by prepared, i mean bought from a shop Very Happy
Fontfroide

This part of the year, when all the French end of year June picnics for all the associations happens, and then the bloody World Cup which interferes with the Tour every four years, and the good weather for riding, and the beginning of the tourist season with visitors, and the Dauphine and the Tour of Suisse and the early July weekend thing I am organising in town, plus the opening of the outdoor town swimming pool for two days a week, becomes a bit much, especially for an older retired gentleman who seeks something like a quiet life.  Hope to have time to comment and enter stuff, but forgive me if I fade out a bit.

I am truly looking forward to catching next two days of the Dauphine.  I h ope I am not being naively optimistic in expecting some intriguing racing from someone.  And a surprise!  Maybe even one each day!
gerry12ie

Trovimov has had his weetabix again this morning...
gerry12ie

Hard as fucking nails that climb. Westra got his reward a day late and Contador did the job. Froome was ballsy though and obviously in a lot of discomfort so ultimately did well enough considering. Nibs struggled again but nobody finished that climb in good shape - it was a right tough one.
HuwB

Great win for Westra, after yesterday's bitter pill, he hands one out himself to Katusha.
A pity Froome had that crash, yesterday, as we have no idea if he has been effected at all,
or if Contador is actually the stronger, going into Le Tour.

Ominous, though.
mr shifter

Fontfroide wrote:
then the bloody World Cup which interferes with the Tour every four years,

In 1998 it didn't interfere very much as the Tour ran away to Ireland and only came back to France the day after the PARIS football final.  Exclamation

Outstanding cycle racing today and I just wished that the camera's had spent more time on the Westra ride.
Biosphere

Heh, heh. That was a great day out. Watched the last 30km on a giant screen and the last 200m of zigzaging live. Westra climbed off his bike more or less  in front of me. I thought he was going to be sick at one point, but he was fine after a minute.

Thought Contador seemed muted on the podium given the significance of what had happened. Froome really looked like he just wanted to be on the bus instead of having to collect the consolation jersey.
mr shifter

Biosphere wrote:
Heh, heh. That was a great day out. Watched the last 30km on a giant screen and the last 200m of zigzaging live.

I thought you might be there but did you ride a bike to get there.  Laughing

Funicular. ?

EDIT I presume you have the TOS book ?
Please tell me the TOS is going up the "Old Road" of the Gotthard Pass. ?
The New road will only be tempo and that's no good for the Furka.
Biosphere

I imagine The Clinic is going apeshit with this

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/r...e-tue-request-at-tour-de-romandie
mr shifter

Bartali wrote:
I partly agree Mr S.  I'm not panicking yet! Smile

Cycling News wrote:

Nibali satisfied with Dauphiné improvement
HuwB

Mmmm, Sky appear to have torn up their own rule book.
After 25 km a group of 16, including Nieve, Porte and Lopez, and Talansky  More than 2 minute advantage. Also Westra, Hesjedal, Van den Broeck, Peraud, Voeckler. They certainly make the Saxos work for it

David Lopez, Mikel Nieve, Richie Porte (Sky), Tanel Kangert, Lieuwe Westra (Astana), Dani Navarro, Yoann Bagot (Cofidis), Adam Yates (Orica), Igor Anton, John Gadret (Movistar), Romain Bardet, Alexis Gougeard, Jean-Christoph Péraud (AG2R), Thomas Voeckler (Europcar), Jurgen Van den Broeck, Tony Gallopin, Pim Ligthart (Lotto), Kristjan Koren (Cannondale), Tejay van Garderen (BMC), Yuriy Trofimov (Katusha), Ryder Hesjedal, Andrew Talansky (Garmin), Bartosz Huzarski (NetApp).

Should be a cracker!
Tinkoff have been weak, so far and the really have their work cut out.
mazda

HuwB wrote:
Mmmm, Sky appear to have torn up their own rule book.
After 25 km a group of 16, including Nieve, Porte and Lopez, and Talansky  More than 2 minute advantage. Also Westra, Hesjedal, Van den Broeck, Peraud, Voeckler. They certainly make the Saxos work for it


Hmm.
Cyclingnews now reporting -

"the men in black have realised the danger posed by Talansky and Van Den Broeck, and have begun to help Tinkoff-Saxo's chase effort."

Rolling Eyes
HuwB

Froome attacked with Thomas, Kiri and Pate, so we now have a break of 23 ... then 17 chasers inc Froome+3,yellow jersey+0 ... then peloton

Quote:
Chasing group

17 riders between the breakaway and the bunch: Chris Froome, Vassil Kiryienka, Danny Pate, Geraint Thomas (Sky), Vincenzo Nibali, Jakob Fuglsang (Astana), Alberto Contador (Tinkoff), Luis Maté (Cofidis), Mikaël Chérel, Ben Gastauer (AG2R), Sébastien Reichenbach (IAM), Darwin Atapuma (BMC), Dani Moreno (Katusha), Jan Bakelants (OPQS), Wilco Kelderman, Martijn Keizer (Belkin), Leo König (NetApp).
mazda

Basically Sky have realised that if they leave it up to Saxo then they lose the race.
Very good tactics by Saxo don't you think ?
gerry12ie

Contador looks prepared to lose it. This is good stuff
gerry12ie

Kirby is a grade A dickhead
gerry12ie

An epic day of racing totally ruined by that goon's idiotic commentary. I can't listen to him again.
berck

Talanksy!!! Smile
Biosphere

Talansky wins it Smile A very unpredictable weeks entertainment and nice to see things shaken up.
HuwB

Froome and Contador basically stuff each other up.
Clearly, his crash impacted the race, more than first thought.
Bertie is ridiculously strong, though. Had he launched when they started to muck about.....
Bluff and counter bluff, backfires, Talansky, VDB and young Yates benefit.

Overall, a super Dauphine.
mazda

Brilliant stuff.
Talansky in tears - glad it went to someone that it means something to win it.

Contador.
What can you say ?
Always makes a race entertaining.
Certainly doesn't play by the rules.
gerry12ie

I would guess that Contador valued handing Froome a demoralising defeat above losing the race but it was a bit of a schoolboy error in the end. Maybe the real value of this is that other riders can now see if they actually race against Sky then they can be vulnerable, although Froome was clearly in real discomfort but I reckon not all of it was physical.

A great weeks racing though and plenty of intrigue to add to the TDF build up...
Bartali

Well that was interesting!!!
Fontfroide

Not too bad for a short race really.  In fact, some excellent moments and above all surprises.  I love surprises.  I had hoped one day Talansky would ride really well.  I guess there was a smidgeon of strategy involved today here and there too, besides some strong riding.  Very good really.  Shame Froome was feeling so poorly but I guess from what they did, Sky obviously knew it was mostly over for Froome.  Hope that Talansky rides well in the Tour, might feel like an attack or two, which always livens things up.  And clearly Contador and most likely Froome are well ready.  A bit of polishing and Nibali might be too.  Good race.  Enjoyed that.  Never had a clue how it would turn on on the day.

My team did poorly, oh well.  And already by "climber" is gone from Suisse.  Working on the Tour team already.
Slapshot 3

laptopless at the minute but wow what a weekend of racing, it was sublime to watch. As a Berto fan it was superb to see him hand froome his medicine ( ;0) Wonder if he had a TUE or inhaler for that BUT I was surprised he lost that much yesterday with the bodies he had round him. The crash would have had an effect and Brian Smith said as much and that it gave him an excuse..... more to come on the TUE thing methinks
HuwB

Slapshot 3 wrote:
laptopless at the minute but wow what a weekend of racing, it was sublime to watch. As a Berto fan it was superb to see him hand froome his medicine ( ;0) Wonder if he had a TUE or inhaler for that BUT I was surprised he lost that much yesterday with the bodies he had round him. The crash would have had an effect and Brian Smith said as much and that it gave him an excuse..... more to come on the TUE thing methinks


Then again, perhaps not......

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/06...ng-froome-tue-for-corticosteroid/
Biosphere

Far too many photos from Saturday. A grand day out. Included a rack and pinion train ride up a track that featured switchbacks and gained 200m in 1km. Ended up walking down the final mountain cross country as the scheduled buses were not surprisingly not running. My legs are still killing me! With my gut I never have any need normally for descending muscles Wink

Day started off grey and got greyer. The dam is part of a hydroelectric power station which is owned by the Swiss railways to power their trains. Full in Winter, empty in summer. I only released they parked all the team buses along the top when I watched the TV later.


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Anyway it stopped raining and the sun started coming out as the race approached. It always amuses me that Festina are still involved in cycling. The Giant TV kept everyone entertained till the fast bikes came.


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Then it was the turn of the slow bikes. A lot slower than usual for a catch in the final 100m. Westra left nothing in the tank.



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Contador was very popular with the crowd and when he attacked it brought a massive cheer.


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Froome's difficulties tickled Hesjedal, whilst Talansky pushed on.


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Amazing how sideways Froome got at the end - iPad guy got better video footage than he had bargained on.


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Adam Yates goes with the hairy arms look, while Van Avermaet, Van Garderen aand Atapuma come home together.


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The Soigneurs have to wait a lot longer than everyone else.


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Westra felt better quickly, whilst to encourage the quick production of samples and get everyone down the mountain in time for tea, anti doping control employed a brass band Wink


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Friends reunited


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@TeamSky All your Lions are belong to us #TeamTinkovAreComming #SuperBenzina


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The final wheel crosses the line crosses the line 34 minutes down


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ventoux

cracking photos, Bio.... thanks....
gerry12ie

Stunning pics bio, thanks for sharing. Love the AYB tinkov pic especially Very Happy
billgull

Really great photos, Bio!
Thanks! for sharing.
berck

Great pics Bio! Thanks for sharing!
cadence

Very nice photos....
HuwB

As usual, late to see these. As usual, stunning close ups.
I can't help thinking one of those is ripe for a caption contest! Smile
mazda

Great pics.
Remind us again what time you got to the finishing line to get those shots.

Isn't that the steepest funicular ride up there as well ? (looks like where the second photo was taken from).
Fontfroide

gerry12ie wrote:
Stunning pics bio, thanks for sharing. Love the AYB tinkov pic especially Very Happy


Really good shots.  Good on the surrounding lileu and some goodones of riders too.  Very well taken.

My favourite is the two dudes with the lion as well.  Looks like I wold not trust either one of them to tell me the way to the train station.
MAILLOT JAUNE

Nice photos Bio
Biosphere

Thanks for all the very nice words. Unsurprisingly, I am chuffed with how some of the race ones came out (the non race ones are just snapshots really to give feel for the day and setting), but I think a lot of that is down to a bit of luck on the day with the sun coming out at the right moment, there being a long uphill finish into the sun and the riders being on their limit. I go to the finish of the TdS today and I am certain I will not get anything that even comes close to the good ones from Saturday.

To answer the questions, if you stay away from the GTs it's quite easy to get a spot on the rails even with an hour to go before the finish. Being up a mountain there was no real issue at all as only the hard-core would go up there for something like the Dauphine. The was a regular scheduled bus from the train station in the last town and following the race route up to the finish (recreational access to middle of nowhere mountains is seen as very important given that most live in quite densly populated towns and cities) and so there was no need to take the funicular which seemed to be servicing a different route up the mountain anyway and I didn't see anyone using it. The first photo of the dam was taken from station at the top.
SlowRower

Nice piccies, thanks. I particularly liked the one of the Garmin rider "laughing" at Froome!
Slapshot 3

SlowRower wrote:
Nice piccies, thanks. I particularly liked the one of the Garmin rider "laughing" at Froome!


I didn't bother stiffling a chuckle whan I saw that  Wink very nice Piccys Bio

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