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CNNSI's Wolff Writes a Gemhttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/...07/07/tour/index.html?eref=sihpT1
I think he pretty much sums up the arguements we've had here for the past 3 years with this piece.
Best artical I've seen on the sport by a US based site or publication.
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kathy
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Great article, Scott, and all very true in my opinion.
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HuwB
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Yes. It has become the subject of some debate, elsewhere.
Many valid points.
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Mysterion
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The article is a little too rooted in the past and not representative of the attitude taken by cycling/Olympic and justice authorities in France, Germany and Italy.
I also wonder if scandalous doping headlines have actually helped cycling in a "no publicity is bad publicity" way.
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Superbagneres
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| Mysterion wrote: |
I also wonder if scandalous doping headlines have actually helped cycling in a "no publicity is bad publicity" way. |
It is a very interesting question. In particular I have often wondered if the sheer amount of publicity by long-term repetition which the Festina name has got over the years has outweighed the initial adverse effect of the publicity.
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Jackov
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| Quote: | | Any 7-year-old Flemish schoolchild," Bob Roll has written, "knows 100 times more about cycling than all Americans combined." |
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Fontfroide
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| Jackov wrote: | | Quote: | | Any 7-year-old Flemish schoolchild," Bob Roll has written, "knows 100 times more about cycling than all Americans combined." |
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Does he say things as stupid as that when he commentates?
I think he is a commentator on the Tour for Americans, right? I have hardly ever heard him except on short excerpts, where he seems to be a kind of laddish, but knowledgeable, supposedly quite funny "expert". The kind of guy Lance would like. How does he compare with the best of the Europeans, as a commentator? Is there a particular place I can listen to his comments or analysis?
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Jackov
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| Fontfroide wrote: | | Jackov wrote: | | Quote: | | Any 7-year-old Flemish schoolchild," Bob Roll has written, "knows 100 times more about cycling than all Americans combined." |
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Does he say things as stupid as that when he commentates?
I think he is a commentator on the Tour for Americans, right? I have hardly ever heard him except on short excerpts, where he seems to be a kind of laddish, but knowledgeable, supposedly quite funny "expert". The kind of guy Lance would like. How does he compare with the best of the Europeans, as a commentator? Is there a particular place I can listen to his comments or analysis? |
His shtick is to be a buffoon, and he over does it. He also uses his hands far too much and that alone annoys me enough for me to scream at the TV. I suppose if he did less clowning around, answered questions more seriously, and tried to move his focus to the entire peleton instead of just Lance watching, he would be a decent commentator. He has amusing tales from his days in the peleton and he's a bit of a whack job so he's not all bad, but on balance the scales tip too far the wrong way. With any TV show how much is the is commentator and how much is the producer?
You're not missing anything. if you ask me. He doesn't do the live Versus broadcast, just some as live commentary in the replay and is a studio presence. You might find tidbits at versus.com but I would not waste the energy clicking the mouse just to find hi s material.
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Jackov
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I think my story portrays the average american when it comes to cycling:
I was at a party this weekend and ran in the other room to turn on the TV briefly for some TdF news.
My friends/family know who Lance Armstrong is, have heard of the Tour de France and were even aware he was just off the lead in 2nd place but they don't know the term "peleton", or how many days the race lasts, etc.
When I returned to the gathering the general question to me was "How did Lance do, did he take the yelllow jersey?"
My response was "The guy that had the yellow before is out of the picture, a new pretender has it now, the guy that is going to win the race is now in 2nd place, and Lance is two seconds behind him in 3rd place."
I'm met with a polite pause, and then told "don't be so sure, Lance is the best rider in the race."
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