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paperman

Bike

People,

I'm looking at a few bikes now to think about buying in the new year. its for racing next season..and to just look cool. Very Happy
Unfortunately, I don't think Bartali will give me his new Parlee so I'll have to find my own new bike. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
This is one I'm thinking Pinarello FP5 of its a tiny bit over my budget. But its very nice looking. Anyone have any experience with Pinarello?. TT you mentioned them before I think!! Any other recommenddations greatly recieved. Thanks Very Happy

http://www.pinarello.com/main_eng.php
Bartali

http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat...pinarello/PRD_404879_5668crx.aspx

Here's a review paperman.

I've never riden one but they look very nice. Not the lightest ... but bags of italian flair! Smile
paperman

Thanks Bartali, the weight issue may be the deal breaker I'll keep looking but its still well up there.
thunderthighs

paperman, its italian, but i hate the seat tube angles 72/73'..chain stay to soft
.. its ok.. if you are a tall dude..like 34 inch inseam..but iam 31..iam 5 8 1/2
i like my colnago 75 seat tube.. and 14 ich chain stay.. i hate flex...and noise

can i suggest a GIOS carbon.. thats alot better..

ciao
paperman

I'll look at one thanks TT, I'm a 34 instep. Six foot.
Bartali

What about a colnago CLX?

http://www.windwave.co.uk/colnago_comp_clx.html

Looks very stylish in B&W
Dr.Wierd

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dmwOHELPp0A
Bartali

Interesting. Amazing how many europeans were working in that Chinese factory. Whether that was because it was in set-up or whether Italians do all the fine work - who knows?
Dr.Wierd

Its a strange vid. No where does the guy say anything about china. Maybe implying that the carbon is molded in china and shipped to Italy, but nowhere on the vid can you get that.
paperman

Bartali wrote:
What about a colnago CLX?

http://www.windwave.co.uk/colnago_comp_clx.html

Looks very stylish in B&W


Been looking at those aswell. Very nice. Haven't checked the weight. I'll look around for about a month then decide.
thunderthighs

cabon tecnolgy italia is the best, china can go to hell, Look carbon is now made by us italians...di du know that alinghi/bmw oracle sail hull made by italians..

ciao
kellyrocheearly

Orbea Opal or Orca if you have the extra cash. Beautiful machines and amazing comfortable for carbon, not to mention stiff and responsive
paperman

Kelly....where in Dublin does Orbea...Stagg in Lucan is one I think. Any where else. I know cycleways or cycleogical don't.
paperman

Found it on the web site....its Stagg cycles.
kellyrocheearly

paperman wrote:
Kelly....where in Dublin does Orbea...Stagg in Lucan is one I think. Any where else. I know cycleways or cycleogical don't.


i actually bought mine in Boston so not sure about Dublin. The Orbea website is good for general info on size's, angle's, weight and all that other tech stuff.
But if you do get one dont get the Zeus carbon seatpost that usually comes with them as they can slip too easily, i swapped mine for a Thompson Aluminium and its far far better
Dr.Wierd

Re: Bike

paperman wrote:
People,

I'm looking at a few bikes now to think about buying in the new year. its for racing next season..and to just look cool. Very Happy
Unfortunately, I don't think Bartali will give me his new Parlee so I'll have to find my own new bike. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
This is one I'm thinking Pinarello FP5 of its a tiny bit over my budget. But its very nice looking. Anyone have any experience with Pinarello?. TT you mentioned them before I think!! Any other recommenddations greatly recieved. Thanks Very Happy

http://www.pinarello.com/main_eng.php


What's your fancy? Carbon, steel, alu? Italian, french??
paperman

Dr Wierd,
Its going to be carbon.
Dr.Wierd

Calfee Luna - don't know if they have distro in ireland

I'll second the colnago clx

Giant TCR Advanced

Look 555 or up

That would be my list.
paperman

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDe...mp;N=Focus%20Izalco%20Team%202008


Almost at a decision....keep hearing good things here. Any holes you people see please shout.

I think I will go for it but just hate idea of ordering on the net.....yuck. For this bike I don't think I have a choice. Ireland is useless for bike buying. May go to England for one.
CapeRoadie

thunderthighs wrote:
cabon tecnolgy italia is the best, china can go to hell, Look carbon is now made by us italians...di du know that alinghi/bmw oracle sail hull made by italians..

ciao


Trek's new "red" carbon is thinner so they can use more layers. I heard it's pretty good because of the amount of higher modulus carbon.  It's stiff where it needs to be.  I managed to get a steal on a Trek Madone 6.9 so this baby arrived today (frame only).  What do you think of Trek, TT and why?  I heard there are Italians living in Wisconsin, too, btw.



Mine will not have that ugly-looking stem, and I'll have these wheels from the old bike:



Red, white or black bar tape and cages?  Can't decide.

I ride it tomorrow.
CapeRoadie

kellyrocheearly wrote:
paperman wrote:
Kelly....where in Dublin does Orbea...Stagg in Lucan is one I think. Any where else. I know cycleways or cycleogical don't.


i actually bought mine in Boston so not sure about Dublin. The Orbea website is good for general info on size's, angle's, weight and all that other tech stuff.
But if you do get one dont get the Zeus carbon seatpost that usually comes with them as they can slip too easily, i swapped mine for a Thompson Aluminium and its far far better


Thompson makes good stuff.  Where do you like to do bike business, KER?  Wheelworks?  Landry's?  International (Allston)?

You have to meet George Sykes in Falmouth when you're down this way.  Great little shop.  Corner Cycle.  One of our riders competes in cyclocross Worlds in Treviso tomorrow morning (Luke Keough--see cyclocross thread).  He goes to Sandwich High School and they don't really even know what he's accomplished there.  But we all will know.

I'm signed up for Sturbridge/Palmer Race Weekend already.  Will we see you there at the end of April?
Bartali

paperman wrote:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDe...mp;N=Focus%20Izalco%20Team%202008


Almost at a decision....keep hearing good things here. Any holes you people see please shout.

I think I will go for it but just hate idea of ordering on the net.....yuck. For this bike I don't think I have a choice. Ireland is useless for bike buying. May go to England for one.


I don't like buying a whole bike off the web, but wiggle do a good job and the prices are good.  If you resort to the web you could do a lot worse.  As for the bike ... I've never seen one in real life, but looks v.good vfm!
Bartali

Cape ... NOT red!!!

Black is smart.  White tape looks good ... and is very trendy these days.  If you go white, get a pair of white Hudz lever hoods to complete the look!

Nice looking bike!
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
Cape ... NOT red!!!

Black is smart.  White tape looks good ... and is very trendy these days.  If you go white, get a pair of white Hudz lever hoods to complete the look!

Nice looking bike!


Not red.  I basically agree.  White is impractical, especially in winter.  Which would be warmer, the white tape that reflects the heat, or the black that absorbs it?  I would guess black.

White saddle, Bartali?
Bartali

White saddles are just as impractical as white bar tape ... and a lot more expensive to replace!  Stick with what works for you. Do they do your saddle in white?  Nice and stylish!
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
White saddles are just as impractical as white bar tape ... and a lot more expensive to replace!  Stick with what works for you. Do they do your saddle in white?  Nice and stylish!


They do.  Specialized Toupe 143 mm.  I think I'm going with black saddle and white bar tape.
Bartali

Nice!  Think, on balance, thats what I would do too.
CapeRoadie

Bartali wrote:
Nice!  Think, on balance, thats what I would do too.


I'm finally going to have a bike that fits.  I'm excited.
Bartali

excellent ... should be worthwhile!
berck

I hate to be a spoiler here, but red bar tape looks great. Especially if you top it off with some tires that contain red tread. My older bike was setup that way and I got quite a few compliments on it (its part of my picture, but you can only see the red tape).

You can also by carbon bottle cages that are black with red stripes. But I would definitely go with black on the saddle.
forza_petacchi

White tape and saddles will get dirty much easier.
redster73

Black frame, white tape and saddle...gotta look the part!

http://tinyurl.com/2vdwm9
CapeRoadie

redster73 wrote:
Black frame, white tape and saddle...gotta look the part!

http://tinyurl.com/2vdwm9


Yeah, maybe I'll be the next Super Mario.  I'll never wear the rainbow, however.  But my bike may yet wear the rainbow...



I'm pumped!



Next stop:



The yellow version:



One of my favorite Tour pictures:



Look at those guys.  And then there were two.

thunderthighs

nice picture of mount ventouix.. rode a time trail up that as a junoir.. those winds
make you sick..

and trek is good..vry good...but steeel..italian are better..

if u are going steel..stay italian..andything else shop around....

the world seems to copy us italians, anyway..

ciao
CapeRoadie

thunderthighs wrote:
nice picture of mount ventouix.. rode a time trail up that as a junoir.. those winds
make you sick..

and trek is good..vry good...but steeel..italian are better..

if u are going steel..stay italian..andything else shop around....

the world seems to copy us italians, anyway..

ciao


You are definitely one of my idols, TT.  Laughing  Seriously, I appreciate your cycling knowledge and advice.  You haven't steered me wrong.

I rode my new Trek Madone 6.9 today.  All I can say is WOW!  I am blown away by it!  First, it fits me better than any bike I've owned.  Second, it's a very stiff frame as carbon frames go, and the power return was noticeable instantly.  I climbed better than I should have today.  And it handled really well on the corners.  I felt like I could pedal circles (good fit, finally) and I was going faster at the same energy output today.  And I wasn't having a great day--my legs were kind of dead.  No matter!  And the frame looks really good.  I went with black bar tape and that looks good.  My DT Swiss hubs and Zipp rims felt weightless.  With bottle cages and pedals the bike weighed in at 15.4 lbs.  Amazing ride.  Now I have to go out and win something with it.

I'm at 202 lbs. down from 225 this past summer.  Shooting for 190 lbs. by end of March and 180-5 by end of July.  That will be the perfect weight at 6'2".  I am hungry all the time.  

TT, I am off the ice cream.
headwind

congrats cape.  thats a lovely steed you have tapped into.  word of caution...give yourself some time before considering wattage gain from the new rig.  even when you are tired, theres lots of adrenaline associated with having a new girlfriend.  After a month or two when you are no longer head-over-heels, take a normal training ride and compare times.  I think its possible to have a new bike make a diff, but its certaianly more likely as a pro when 100g here and there can be tallied over 6 hours of racing speed.

nevertheless...i thrilled that you have  a bike comparable to your personal investment in the sport.  looking forward to seeing you on the top step!

hw
CapeRoadie

headwind wrote:
congrats cape.  thats a lovely steed you have tapped into.  word of caution...give yourself some time before considering wattage gain from the new rig.  even when you are tired, theres lots of adrenaline associated with having a new girlfriend.  After a month or two when you are no longer head-over-heels, take a normal training ride and compare times.  I think its possible to have a new bike make a diff, but its certainly more likely as a pro when 100g here and there can be tallied over 6 hours of racing speed.

nevertheless...i thrilled that you have  a bike comparable to your personal investment in the sport.  looking forward to seeing you on the top step!

hw


Well, here:  I am riding 1-2 mph faster without a rise in heart rate.  Now, I don't know about you, but back in the day when I was in a position to "have a new girlfriend", I definitely experienced a rise in heart rate.  If you know me, you know I am a numbers guy.  I have no doubt that the stiffness of this bike is significantly higher than my last one, and I do believe that is translating into better energy return.  So, no "caution" needed.  Besides, I have been training really hard for two months on and off the bike, have hired a coach, am doing intermittent hypoxic (simulated altitude) training, and have lost 20 lbs.  

Something's gotta be workin'!

In two more months I should be even faster and won't be able to tell how much is the bike anyway.  Getting fast is all about practicing going fast, and raising the lactate threshold.  This bike also fits me properly, and I have to say that is already making a difference.  No back cramping, and it just feels right.

Man, if I don't win something, I will be disappointed.  Thanks for the well wishes!
CapeRoadie

A recent review from Pez:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/default.asp?pg=fullstory&id=5621
Bartali

Good review!
kellyrocheearly

CapeRoadie wrote:
kellyrocheearly wrote:
paperman wrote:
Kelly....where in Dublin does Orbea...Stagg in Lucan is one I think. Any where else. I know cycleways or cycleogical don't.


i actually bought mine in Boston so not sure about Dublin. The Orbea website is good for general info on size's, angle's, weight and all that other tech stuff.
But if you do get one dont get the Zeus carbon seatpost that usually comes with them as they can slip too easily, i swapped mine for a Thompson Aluminium and its far far better


Thompson makes good stuff.  Where do you like to do bike business, KER?  Wheelworks?  Landry's?  International (Allston)?

You have to meet George Sykes in Falmouth when you're down this way.  Great little shop.  Corner Cycle.  One of our riders competes in cyclocross Worlds in Treviso tomorrow morning (Luke Keough--see cyclocross thread).  He goes to Sandwich High School and they don't really even know what he's accomplished there.  But we all will know.

I'm signed up for Sturbridge/Palmer Race Weekend already.  Will we see you there at the end of April?


Hey Cape, i usually go to Wheelworks in Somerville as they sponsor the club so get the odd discount. Should be doing the Sturbridge/Palmer weekend, gonna start with the Charge Pond Series from March 15th and take it from there. Hoping to ride Turtle Pond, Myles Standish, Sturbridge and then be in good form for May where i want to do good rides at Blue Hills and Sterling. Got my Cat 4 licence in the post last week and training is coming along nicely.

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